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Baron1710 12-12-2009 05:13 AM

Who's Your Brother?
 
Jesus was once asked, "Who is my neighbor?"

My question to you:

Who is your brother?

My standard is found in John 1:12.

Questioner 12-12-2009 07:06 AM

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I only have one real brother... and in my opinion, it would cheapen my relationship with him if I were to start calling other people my brother.... regardless of religious traditions.

Apocrypha 12-12-2009 07:45 AM

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I was just thinking the other day that alot of traditionalist Apostolics are gonna be stuck in Heaven with a whole lot of people they wouldn't associate with on Earth.

Raven 12-12-2009 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 848454)
Jesus was once asked, "Who is my neighbor?"

My question to you:

Who is your brother?

My standard is found in John 1:12.

Who could argue with a man like John? I agree and thanks for posting it "Brother Baron"!

Raven

John Atkinson 12-12-2009 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 848454)
Jesus was once asked, "Who is my neighbor?"

My question to you:

Who is your brother?

My standard is found in John 1:12.

Well I got my brother Billy in Texas and Bear in Idaho.

Then I guess I got you, lucky for you I already got a lawyer in the family...

It s a lot easier to cut people off than to let people in
Whoever Jesus considers his brothers, I consider mine, It isn't my place to pick and choose.

so the verse you referenced works for me.

Baron1710 12-12-2009 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Questioner (Post 848463)
I only have one real brother... and in my opinion, it would cheapen my relationship with him if I were to start calling other people my brother.... regardless of religious traditions.

That is another topic altogether. I am not a fan of calling someone brother, (e.g. Brother Bonehead) I mean who do you consider to be a fellow believer. I call my brother, "Bill" but never "Brother Bill".

Jesus also said on more then one occasion whoever does the will of my Father is my brother.

Baron1710 12-12-2009 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by John Atkinson (Post 848472)
Well I got my brother Billy in Texas and Bear in Idaho.

Then I guess I got you, lucky for you I already got a lawyer in the family...

It s a lot easier to cut people off than to let people in
Whoever Jesus considers his brothers, I consider mine, It isn't my place to pick and choose.

so the verse you referenced works for me.

True words. Do I have to like my brother?

mfblume 12-12-2009 09:46 AM

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It's not a tradition of religion to call a fellow believer a brother. It is a fact that we are adopted into the same family of Christ. It's solid biblical teaching. I like John 1:12!

John Atkinson 12-12-2009 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 848484)
True words. Do I have to like my brother?

We do't "have" to do anything. I think we can be disappointed and even disgusted with peoples actions.

Honestly Bro, I am not the sage, I just don't know. If we have to read Machiavelli to be able to navigate between brethren, then we have missed it.

I shoud be able to fellowship with you and you with me without any other motive than being brothers.

maybe that makes me naive or a compromiser... fine... whatever

missourimary 12-12-2009 11:16 AM

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Personally I'd rather be called "sister" than "brother"... (sorry, couldn't resist)

Good thoughts!!

notofworks 12-12-2009 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 848454)
Jesus was once asked, "Who is my neighbor?"

My question to you:

Who is your brother?

My standard is found in John 1:12.


This is dangerous territory, Baron. I did a thread like this not long ago and it instantly turned ugly. By the third post, it was already personal and accusatory. I was called so many ugly names and diagnosed with so many mental illnesses that I actually took a break from AFF for a while. It was ridiculous. Here it is, by the way:

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=26346

Baron1710 12-12-2009 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by John Atkinson (Post 848497)
We do't "have" to do anything. I think we can be disappointed and even disgusted with peoples actions.

Honestly Bro, I am not the sage, I just don't know. If we have to read Machiavelli to be able to navigate between brethren, then we have missed it.

I shoud be able to fellowship with you and you with me without any other motive than being brothers.

maybe that makes me naive or a compromiser... fine... whatever

I was just thinking that there are folks that I don't care much for on a personal basis that I would still consider my brother.

Joey Boneski 12-12-2009 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 848554)
This is dangerous territory, Baron. I did a thread like this not long ago and it instantly turned ugly. By the third post, it was already personal and accusatory. I was called so many ugly names and diagnosed with so many mental illnesses that I actually took a break from AFF for a while. It was ridiculous. Here it is, by the way:

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=26346

I was about to say this could turn ugly here but I see it has turned ugly in the past....I know several different views of brother...some vary from humanity, to Christianity, to faith, and then all the way down to church member...don't think I'm crossing that sword here :)

notofworks 12-12-2009 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey Boneski (Post 848584)
I was about to say this could turn ugly here but I see it has turned ugly in the past....I know several different views of brother...some vary from humanity, to Christianity, to faith, and then all the way down to church member...don't think I'm crossing that sword here :)


Ok, so let's get down to the nitty-gritty. Am I your spiritual brother? :lol

Baron1710 12-12-2009 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey Boneski (Post 848584)
I was about to say this could turn ugly here but I see it has turned ugly in the past....I know several different views of brother...some vary from humanity, to Christianity, to faith, and then all the way down to church member...don't think I'm crossing that sword here :)

Let me be clear I am talking about Christianity.

notofworks 12-12-2009 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 848615)
Let me be clear I am talking about Christianity.


Baron....you ARE my brother!!! And as an added bonus, I like you! :D

Baron1710 12-12-2009 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 848620)
Baron....you ARE my brother!!! And as an added bonus, I like you! :D

Thanks. I agree.

Christianity is so much bigger than those who believe like us.

notofworks 12-12-2009 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 848621)
Thanks. I agree.

Christianity is so much bigger than those who believe like us.


It would be much better, though, if everyone agreed with me on everything. They really should. Then they could all be correct all the time.

jfrog 12-12-2009 01:20 PM

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So which of yall wanna claim me as your brother?

notofworks 12-12-2009 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 848624)
So which of yall wanna claim me as your brother?


I will!!!! Happily so!

OnTheFritz 12-12-2009 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 848626)
I will!!!! Happily so!

Can I make fun of Tiger and be your brother? :D

Wasn't planning on it, by the way. But I wanted to know how deep the brotherly bond goes. :lol

Sam 12-12-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 848615)
Let me be clear I am talking about Christianity.

OK, I was gonna define "brother" several ways:

from a human standpoint of having the same parent

from a creation standpoint of all belonging to the same human species

from a social standpoint of belonging to the same union, association, etc.

And from a spiritual standpoint, being born into the family of God.

John 1:12 has been referenced where it speaks of those who have received Jesus as being born of God.

In John 3:1-21 Jesus taught the necessity of being born again and went on to explain that those who believe in Him are born again.

1 John 5:4-5 teaches that born of God are the ones who overcome the world and then defines those overcomers as those who believe that Jesus is the Son of God.

To me, a clear statement of how one is born again or born into the family of God is 1 John 5:1 which says, "If you believe that Jesus is the Christ --that He is God's Son and your Savior--then you are a child of God and all who love the Father love His children too."

In my opinion, all who believe in Jesus are born into the family of God and are my brothers and sisters.

Sam 12-12-2009 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheFritz (Post 848638)
Can I make fun of Tiger and be your brother? :D

You can do lots of stuff that I may or may not agree with but that does not change your status as a brother or sister in God's family.

notofworks 12-12-2009 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheFritz (Post 848638)
Can I make fun of Tiger and be your brother? :D

Wasn't planning on it, by the way. But I wanted to know how deep the brotherly bond goes. :lol


Hmm, I'll have to think about that.

Ok, I thought about it. Yes!!! As far as I know, I don't get to pick and choose my brothers or sisters!

Jermyn Davidson 12-12-2009 03:02 PM

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I have many brothers, but few friends.

Isn't it odd when you find that you have a true friend who is not your brother, in accordance with John 1:12?

Baron1710 12-12-2009 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 848624)
So which of yall wanna claim me as your brother?

Sure froggy you can be my brother.

jfrog 12-12-2009 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 848775)
Sure froggy you can be my brother.

To all those that said yes, it's interesting that you view me as a Christian :/

But thanks for the votes of confidence :)

notofworks 12-12-2009 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 848811)
To all those that said yes, it's interesting that you view me as a Christian :/

But thanks for the votes of confidence :)


I didn't say I viewed you as a Christian. But I do see you as a brother in many ways. I'm happy to start at that place!!


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