Health Care Dilemma
 

With the recent turn of events regarding the passage of the Health Care/Socialism bill, and if I were faced with a, "Which would you rather do?" situation:

Accept the Health Care/Socialism bill

or

View the purported nekkid pictures of Nancy Pelosi knowing that it would cause eye damage and irreparable mental harm...



I would choose #2 at my own peril! LOL


You may have your own, "I would rather....."

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Wonder what would happen if there was a massive revolt in terms of people refusing to buy health insurance?

Maybe it is time for civil disobedience...

I would rather slide down a giant razor blade into a pool of alcohol than have my country turned from capitalism to socialism.

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I would rather stay in Guatemala where without insurance (with ins. much cheaper) my wife can have a kid for $1200 all expenses included than move back to the USA where I pay that in two months for my so-called premium, more like extortion, then pay $12000+ to have a kid. High quality of health care if you go to the NON-socialist hospitals.

And my salary is the same in both places.

Tough decision, eh? ;)

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$12,000 to have a kid now-a-days????

When I had mine, the last one 18 years ago, I think it was $3,000!! The one about 5 years before that was about $1,800!!

Okay, you math whizzes. I want the percent increase on that. (Please provide a formula as I am trying to learn how to do this myself! Thanks)

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That's how much it cost us WITH insurance! In the US my premiums were $650/mo, too. I hope other people have had them for cheaper, but that's what it cost us.

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That's what YOUR portion was??

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My personal "rather" would be that Nancy Pelosi come to faith in Jesus Christ and proclaim Him the Lord of her life. The political hooey will all work out.

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Years ago it was much cheaper.
The woman just kept working in the field until the contractions were too close. Then she'd go to the side of the field and deliver the baby, cut the cord, wipe the child off, bind it on her back, and return to her work in the field.
Ahhhh, the good old days......
and the old landmarks......

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She claims she already has...

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Oh, yes, the good old days.....:jolly

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This is an extremely over the line accusatory remark to MOW! :thwak

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Really?? Hmm......Well, God bless her! :lol I'm gonna go look up some support group resources to help ManofWord with his "problem."

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This reminds me of a conversation I had with a co-worker the other day. She is always quite difficult. Anyway, I said " It's hard to know sometimes how much to let go when your kids get to a certain age isn't it?" She said "I don't know. We raised my daughter better than that. She knows right from wrong." I didn't say anything but got busy real quick!! Then, to recover herself, she said something just as obnoxious! (Can't even remember what. I blocked it out by now!)

I told this to my husband and he said it's like being asked "Did you stop beating your wife yet?"

There is no right answer.

However, on the flip-side, I found MOW's comment a bit off color....

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Hey, he said he was wanting to look at pictures of a "nekkid lady." I'm just wanting to help. :D

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I attempted to address it in a humorous way, but I totally agree with you. But of course, I get blasted by "Pressing On" for being "accusatory."

Whatever. :christmasjig

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Obscene stories, foolish talk, and coarse jokes–these are not for you. Instead, let there be thankfulness for God. Ephesians 5:4

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Actually, PO, when I read MOW's remark, before anyone else had commented back on here, my first thought was, "Oh boy, MOW has opened a can of worms now. Not so much regarding the health care. More regarding that particular comment." I have no doubt at all that he does NOT mean he really wants to see Ms Pelosi in the buff. He was just making a point. But still......

And I assumed when NOW answered back with his comment that he was saying that TIC. Am I right??

That's the problem with typing our words. You can't see facial expressions :) We're all good people here. And we know each other pretty well by now. I don't think anyone meant to slam anyone else. Love you all!!

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Of course I was being "TIC." But I was dead serious about Ephesians 5:4

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C'mon folks MOW was talking about choosing between two nasty choices. The point was he DOESN'T want to see her without clothes, or probably with clothes, but given the choice between two awful choices he would take that one.

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I apologize, Margie. I did read my Bible reading today (lol) but then got into some Healthcare reports this morning. I shouldn't have posted when I was irritated.

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I'm just referring back to the teaching I received from Dr. Segraves about "foolish jesting." He was pretty strong about that, you know! :D

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Uhhhhhhhh.........but you're not gonna apologize to me? Ok!! :lol:santaclaus

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Was that Segraves or Moelenpah?

Anyway a little foolishness is good now and then, besides you have exceeded your limit of foolish jesting on AFF this month.

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I didn't view your comment, from assessing past posts, as TIC as I knew MOW's was. :christmoose :santaclaus

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Oh, I can help with that! Here's what everyone's face looks like when they post here:



:nahnah


I'm always glad to help! :heeheehee

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Ahhh.....I knew you'd weasel out of it! :lol

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Oh big-time Dr. Segraves!! He harped on that all the time. He didn't even like teasing. But I'll admit, I like throwing Dr. Segraves at you! :lol

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Ummmm......I'm sorry that I posted when I was irritated. :D

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For most folks, calculating the premiums is difficult because much of it is covered by your employer. This also tends to hide the real cost of health care from the average consumer.

The rate of inflation in U.S. health care was really the only problem - but it's a huge problem. I think a lot of this is caused by the way that the end user is often screened from the actual costs.

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I understand, PO. This healthcare stuff is enough to get anyone up in arms. Talk about DEBATABLE!!

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Lord!!!! It's Christmas Eve. I better shut my mouth! :santathumb

Hope you have a wonderful Christmas Eve and Day, Margie. Sorry you are in a cast!!! :friend

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All I can say is we love Health care in Canada! And don't believe anything different. :) The larger taxes are worth it.

But I do not know how it is going down in the USA to speculate much. But after spending two years in the USA, I saw how you folks are being GOUGED by health insurance. WOW!

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If it was that good of a deal they wouldn't be making deals under the table. Everyone would be on board. :thumbsdown

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They are criminalizing NOT having health insurance too

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Exactly!!!

AUSTIN — Gov. Rick Perry today sent a letter asking other governors to join him in ongoing efforts to assert the constitutional rights of states as guaranteed under the 10th Amendment with regard to the federal health care bill being forced through by Congress. He urged the governors to support and join efforts by Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott and several other state attorneys general to determine the constitutionality of a compromise in the pending federal health care legislation exempting the state of Nebraska from increased Medicaid costs resulting from the bill’s passage.

"As the chief executive officers of our individual sovereign states, we must stand up to this unprecedented intrusion in to our lives and the rights of our citizens. We must demonstrate resolve in the face of this infringement,” Gov. Perry wrote in the letter. “Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott is joining with several other state attorneys general to place this deal under proper scrutiny, to determine if such an exclusion is unconstitutional. His office, along with mine, will continue to explore all options available to us as we attempt to minimize the damages that can be caused to Texans by this ill-advised piece of legislation."

In Texas, this health care bill will cost up to $21 billion over the next 10 years, adding an estimated 2 million more people to our Medicaid rolls.

In his letter the governor emphasized that this bill will impose unprecedented intrusion in to the lives and the rights of citizens by mandating that every American purchase health care coverage or face penalties. Additionally, taxpayers in Texas and in most other states will pay even more to effectively subsidize expanded Medicaid for Nebraska and select states that caught additional sweeteners on issues like rural health care and Medicare Advantage for some seniors in a few states.

To view the governor’s letter, please visit: http://www.governor.state.tx.us/file...0912230261.pdf

:santathumb :santathumb

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:lol I'm deeply moved. I apologize for......uhhhh......typing while......I'm......uhhh......quoting verses, I guess. :lol

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I only apologized for being irritated. I still don't think your post was TIC. :D

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WHAT???? You left-wing, communist, liberal, socialist, whacko!!! How dare you??? :lol You commies up there in Canada use your money on stupid healthcare, but WE use it correctly.....on bombs, and warfare goods, and B-52's, and wars!!! Someday we're gonna turn your commie country into a parking lot!!! :ursofunny

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Really? Even though I said, "Of course it was"? So then, you would be accusing me of......uhhhhhh........doing that thing that Rev. 21:8 says will send us to the "Lake of Fire"?

Oh well, believe what you like.

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Oh, okay, I missed that.