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Trouvere 12-25-2009 03:40 PM

Lady Preachers and Teachers
 
I am interested in fellowshipping more lady preachers and teachers.
I travel all over the U.S. and internationally as a Bible teacher and Evangelist.
I love my life. I would not trade it for anything but maybe another pastorate or maybe teaching full time in a Bible School. Otherwise I love my life.
Its not been altogether easy though. I started at 23 years old and not every one was so gungho about women in the pulpit. As the years have gone by I have gotten much more comfortable. I am not the type to push it on anyone.
I have always prayed and Jesus has opened the door. What about you? What is your story?:star

ILG 12-25-2009 07:16 PM

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I used to preach when my husband and I were in the UPC. We left the ministry and I haven't preached since. I think the world needs women preachers...it helps keep a balance so everything is not so male dominated. I don't know if I will ever preach again, personally. That chapter of my life is over maybe forever. I don't even really like to talk about it and am even uncomfortable writing this. I have no problem saying we left the ministry. I never felt real comfortable preaching and I always felt like I was walking against the current, so thinking about it makes me feel exhausted. I never felt very supported as a woman preacher in the UPC as a whole. I felt tolerated.

redletterman 12-25-2009 10:19 PM

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Wow. Name icon says alot

Aquila 12-26-2009 01:49 PM

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I firmly support women preachers and prophets.

Bowas 12-26-2009 02:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 855244)
I firmly support women BEING preachers WIVES and prophets WIVES.

:)

Trouvere 12-26-2009 02:32 PM

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I love being a preachers wife but that is not my only calling in Jesus.
I am an International Bible teacher and evangelist. I love what I do.
It matters not what anyone thinks to me. I just keep going on for Jesus.
Thanks for the :santathumb I feel so much better.lol:horn

Sam 12-26-2009 04:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trouvere (Post 855250)
I love being a preachers wife but that is not my only calling in Jesus.
I am an International Bible teacher and evangelist. I love what I do.
It matters not what anyone thinks to me. I just keep going on for Jesus.
Thanks for the :santathumb I feel so much better.lol:horn

Sister,
Keep on preaching and teaching.

It is my understanding of the Scriptures that in Christ there is neither male nor female, bond nor free, Jew nor Gentile and a woman can do and be anything that a man can do or be. It is my understanding that the gifts and offices of Ephesians chapter 4, Romans chapter 12, and 1 Corinthians chapter 12 are equally available to both men and women.

TJJJ 12-26-2009 04:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 855273)
Sister,
Keep on preaching and teaching.

It is my understanding of the Scriptures that in Christ there is neither male nor female, bond nor free, Jew nor Gentile and a woman can do and be anything that a man can do or be. It is my understanding that the gifts and offices of Ephesians chapter 4, Romans chapter 12, and 1 Corinthians chapter 12 are equally available to both men and women.

Wow Sam, so using your reasoning then we can have gay preachers because realy in the church they are sexless?

ILG 12-26-2009 05:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 855284)
Wow Sam, so using your reasoning then we can have gay preachers because realy in the church they are sexless?

Nothing wrong with gay preachers as long as they remain celibate. ;)

Trouvere 12-26-2009 07:25 PM

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Regardless of Sams reasoning which btw the first thing that rang in my mind was this is the same scripture the gays use also, women are a mighty force in the army of the Lord.
I don't really care what anyone thinks but Jesus and my husband. Thankfully we preach and teach together. I love it. He is the man around our house. I don't have to be. I really
love teaching ladies. I am teaching ladies at the conference we are about to arrive at.
He is one awesome Bible teacher. We are one in the pulpit. He teaches and then calls me up when he feels to do so. I love it. It works for us. We have baptized many this year and many have received the Holy Ghost. Team ministry is a good thing.
I think its sad when a man is a preacher and his wife hates the ministry. If he would help her develop in her gifts and callings(which many do. I am criticizing no one.) then what a powerful force for Jesus they could be.

Trouvere 12-26-2009 07:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 855244)
I firmly support women preachers and prophets.

How much do you support them...$$$$$$

Sister Alvear 12-26-2009 07:33 PM

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I have never lost the wonder that God would call me to His fields...I stood in a church dedication tonight and my son said this church in this area exists because of my mother...the people did not seem to mind that I was the first lady back into that area years ago...In fact the fruits gathered tonight were because of a trip back into that area 20 years ago...

I was the first Jesus Name missionary that came into their area...

So while some condemn and make fun of women others are thankful that women came and told them of Jesus...to some it meant the difference in heaven or hell...

Sister Alvear 12-26-2009 07:34 PM

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etenity will reveal what women have meant to the kingdom of God...

simplyme 12-27-2009 12:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 855284)
Wow Sam, so using your reasoning then we can have gay preachers because realy in the church they are sexless?

LOL! Good point!!

Sister Alvear 12-27-2009 07:35 AM

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I honor both men and women that are really called...some woman might be a lesbian on the other hand some man might be gay...so we cannot say like I have heard it said women that preach are lesbian...and I think anyone that would say that has problems.

No godly women would want to be a man and neither would a godly man want to be a woman. The kingdom of God needs as many voices as it can get...millions still live in pagan darkness and this is to the shame of those that try to close a voice from announcing the gospel...I weep over the millions that have never heard...

The kingdom needs more Deborah's, Huldahs, that will rise above the peer pressure of the day and DO the work of God...There are enough powder puffs, enough primping...Dear ones, WE are at war...We need some Ester's that will put away the petty things and go stand before the King...ladies that are in the kingdom for such an hour as this...

Pro31:28 12-27-2009 07:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 855389)
I honor both men and women that are really called...some woman might be a lesbian on the other hand some man might be gay...so we cannot say like I have heard it said women that preach are lesbian...and I think anyone that would say that has problems.

No godly women would want to be a man and neither would a godly man want to be a woman. The kingdom of God needs as many voices as it can get...millions still live in pagan darkness and this is to the shame of those that try to close a voice from announcing the gospel...I weep over the millions that have never heard...

The kingdom needs more Deborah's, Huldahs, that will rise above the peer pressure of the day and DO the work of God...There are enough powder puffs, enough primping...Dear ones, WE are at war...We need some Esther's that will put away the petty things and go stand before the King...ladies that are in the kingdom for such an hour as this...

And this is why I LOVE sister Alvear!

TJJJ 12-27-2009 08:07 AM

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(Sister Alvear;I honor both men and women that are really called...some woman might be a lesbian on the other hand some man might be gay...so we cannot say like I have heard it said women that preach are lesbian...and I think anyone that would say that has problems.

No godly women would want to be a man and neither would a godly man want to be a woman. The kingdom of God needs as many voices as it can get...millions still live in pagan darkness and this is to the shame of those that try to close a voice from announcing the gospel...I weep over the millions that have never heard...

The kingdom needs more Deborah's, Huldahs, that will rise above the peer pressure of the day and DO the work of God...There are enough powder puffs, enough primping...Dear ones, WE are at war...We need some Ester's that will put away the petty things and go stand before the King...ladies that are in the kingdom for such an hour as this...)




Uh, sis A, that comment is not just for the women preachers! Sad to say, we got a lot of powder puff preachers that are men!

We need more Elijahs!

:santathumb

Hope Preacher 12-27-2009 08:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 855284)
Wow Sam, so using your reasoning then we can have gay preachers because realy in the church they are sexless?

Cute... but what's the point? Are you advocating gays in the ministry, or refuting women in the ministry in a backhanded way? Or are you just trying to be funny?

Sister Alvear 12-27-2009 08:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hope Preacher (Post 855400)
Cute... but what's the point? Are you advocating gays in the ministry, or refuting women in the ministry in a backhanded way? Or are you just trying to be funny?

I wondered the same thing but since I am so far removed from American culture sometimes I don't get what people are saying...thought it was just me...

Sister Alvear 12-27-2009 08:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 855399)
(Sister Alvear;I honor both men and women that are really called...some woman might be a lesbian on the other hand some man might be gay...so we cannot say like I have heard it said women that preach are lesbian...and I think anyone that would say that has problems.

No godly women would want to be a man and neither would a godly man want to be a woman. The kingdom of God needs as many voices as it can get...millions still live in pagan darkness and this is to the shame of those that try to close a voice from announcing the gospel...I weep over the millions that have never heard...

The kingdom needs more Deborah's, Huldahs, that will rise above the peer pressure of the day and DO the work of God...There are enough powder puffs, enough primping...Dear ones, WE are at war...We need some Ester's that will put away the petty things and go stand before the King...ladies that are in the kingdom for such an hour as this...)




Uh, sis A, that comment is not just for the women preachers! Sad to say, we got a lot of powder puff preachers that are men!

We need more Elijahs!






:santathumb





I agree with this statement...we need some people with a backbone in this age we live in. Soldiers must be prepared for war...an so it is with the spiritual.

Sister Alvear 12-27-2009 09:02 AM

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I have seen enough people "CALLED" to the mission field and not return...they do not even know the voice of the commander...much less know His callings...and then I see well known pastors that back people that do not even know the voice of God...because they are family friends...lol...they would do them a favor to sit them down and tell them the truth...not pamper them...got enough pampered already we need people that are strong and prepared.

Trouvere 12-27-2009 09:20 AM

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I am very excited reading this thread today. Sister TAYLOR? I am so excited reading your post. That is an amazing testimony. The first woman Jesus ever showed me was Nona Freeman. I did not know women could even possibly preach or teach the gospel. I grew up Catholic and we never even approached the priesthood. They sent women off to be Nuns only. Thanks for sharing that.

Sister Alvear I so love and admire you. I always wanted to be a Missionary since I was
small. I love the Mission field and every field of labor where we travel and evangelize I want to stay and live. My husband laughs because its just that way with me. I want to do the work of Jesus 7 days a week.
in Jesus,
sis.Dana

Sister Alvear 12-27-2009 09:22 AM

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and we love you, my friend.

Trouvere 12-27-2009 03:10 PM

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I am very excited about ministry. We are getting ready to cross the border into Mexico.
Jesus bless the people with more revelation.!!!!!!

Sister Alvear 12-27-2009 03:22 PM

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praying for you and yours.

commonsense 12-27-2009 09:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 855319)
eternity will reveal what women have meant to the kingdom of God...

I totally agree.


God blesses and uses women preachers and teachers. Everyone has a different ability to offer to the kingdom.

To quote the old 70's axiom, Bloom where you're planted! :star

Timmy 12-27-2009 09:55 PM

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Alright, where are all the UCs? :lol

('Course, if I could understand what
Quote:

Originally Posted by redletterman (Post 855106)
Wow. Name icon says alot

means, maybe I'd know we have been Ultraconned. :heeheehee)

Sam 12-27-2009 09:58 PM

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We bicker and argue about whether a woman can teach or preach, and just yesterday a great servant of God who had preached for 70 years and who had won and encouraged countless numbers was promoted to her reward.

In my opinion, Sis. Nona Freeman in her lifetime fulfilled the offices of
apostle
prophet
evangelist
pastor
teacher

and, we have here on this forum other servants of God who just happen to be women.

How can we hold to our theories about women in ministry when all around us we see God ignoring our theories and calling and using women in all facets and phases of ministry?

Esther 12-28-2009 09:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 855596)
We bicker and argue about whether a woman can teach or preach, and just yesterday a great servant of God who had preached for 70 years and who had won and encouraged countless numbers was promoted to her reward.

In my opinion, Sis. Nona Freeman in her lifetime fulfilled the offices of
apostle
prophet
evangelist
pastor
teacher

and, we have here on this forum other servants of God who just happen to be women.

How can we hold to our theories about women in ministry when all around us we see God ignoring our theories and calling and using women in all facets and phases of ministry?

Amen!

Jermyn Davidson 12-28-2009 03:44 PM

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I have no problems with women preachers and teachers.

I do have a problem with women Pastors-- nothing personal, but Biblically, I must be against the notion of women Pastors.

Esther 12-28-2009 06:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 855973)
I have no problems with women preachers and teachers.

I do have a problem with women Pastors-- nothing personal, but Biblically, I must be against the notion of women Pastors.

Please explain?

Sister Alvear 12-28-2009 07:41 PM

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Dear one....lots of little ones all over our world do not one person to care fortheir souls...don't begrudge a few ladies that plow in his fields and care for his lambs...

Sam 12-28-2009 10:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 855973)
I have no problems with women preachers and teachers.

I do have a problem with women Pastors-- nothing personal, but Biblically, I must be against the notion of women Pastors.

I think that is standard PAW teaching.
Women can be called missionaries but not elders, bishops or pastors.

I don't know if it is standard PAW teaching but the local PAW church in this city was pastored by by a PAW bishop (now deceased) and he taught that a single man could not pastor. A pastor had to be married so he could fulfill the requirement to be the pastor of one wife.

Jeffrey 12-28-2009 11:10 PM

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Women ministers (operation of gifts, exhortation, etc)- yes. Women as elders, Bishops or otherwise leaders over the church - no.

Jermyn Davidson 12-29-2009 08:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 856106)
I think that is standard PAW teaching.
Women can be called missionaries but not elders, bishops or pastors.

I don't know if it is standard PAW teaching but the local PAW church in this city was pastored by by a PAW bishop (now deceased) and he taught that a single man could not pastor. A pastor had to be married so he could fulfill the requirement to be the pastor of one wife.

I was raised in the WOTCCC.

Women cna not be Pastors, single men, can not be Pastors-- the standards for the offices of a church are clearly established.

Why would there be any questioning of the Bible on something so blatantly clear?

Women Pastors are in disobedience to the Bible.

Jeffrey 12-29-2009 12:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 856186)
I was raised in the WOTCCC.

Women cna not be Pastors, single men, can not be Pastors-- the standards for the offices of a church are clearly established.

Why would there be any questioning of the Bible on something so blatantly clear?

Women Pastors are in disobedience to the Bible.

But even Apostle Paul was a single man.

Sister Alvear 12-29-2009 01:39 PM

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Strange how we judge by what we think...

RandyWayne 12-29-2009 01:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 856373)
Strange how we judge by what we think...

Or worse, by how we "feel".

Cindy 12-29-2009 01:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 856186)
I was raised in the WOTCCC.

Women cna not be Pastors, single men, can not be Pastors-- the standards for the offices of a church are clearly established.

Why would there be any questioning of the Bible on something so blatantly clear?

Women Pastors are in disobedience to the Bible.

But what if there are no married men to pastor? Should a church then be without a pastor, if there is a woman or single man available?

RandyWayne 12-29-2009 01:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 856387)
But what if there are no married men to pastor? Should a church then be without a pastor, if there is a woman or single man available?

The loophole would be to simply not call him pastor. Instead of voting in a "pastor" vote in a "president" or the grand high exalted mystic chairman or chairwoman.


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