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Truthseeker 04-23-2007 06:26 PM

Scriptures proves no shorts??
 
Rev 1:13

13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
KJV


Jesus is picture with a garment down to his feet, could this be used to teach against shorts?

I've also read where because the priest only showed his feet.hands and face when going into the holy place, we should to only show that much.


whta thinketh thou?

Hoovie 04-23-2007 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 85033)
Rev 1:13

13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
KJV


Jesus is picture with a garment down to his feet, could this be used to teach against shorts?

I've also read where because the priest only showed his feet.hands and face when going into the holy place, we should to only show that much.


whta thinketh thou?

Could be used to prove no shorts... OR could be used to prove that garments down to the foot are about as rare as golden girdles. :2cents

Rico 04-23-2007 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 85033)
Rev 1:13

13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
KJV


Jesus is picture with a garment down to his feet, could this be used to teach against shorts?

I've also read where because the priest only showed his feet.hands and face when going into the holy place, we should to only show that much.


whta thinketh thou?

This is actually one scripture the stay covered head to foot crowd can actually use. It's better than some of the other ones they stretch to fit what they think.

Praxeas 04-23-2007 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 85033)
Rev 1:13

13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
KJV


Jesus is picture with a garment down to his feet, could this be used to teach against shorts?

I've also read where because the priest only showed his feet.hands and face when going into the holy place, we should to only show that much.


whta thinketh thou?

Scripture shows Jesus died by crucifixion does this mean you can't die of a heart attack?

Jesus ate fish, can you use that to teach against eating beef?

Truthseeker 04-23-2007 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 85054)
Scripture shows Jesus died by crucifixion does this mean you can't die of a heart attack?

Jesus ate fish, can you use that to teach against eating beef?

or does it mean Jesus was fully clothed in modesty down to his feet???

rgcraig 04-23-2007 07:04 PM

So why not obey the whole scripture and require golden girdles too?

Praxeas 04-23-2007 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 85057)
or does it mean Jesus was fully clothed in modesty down to his feet???

Or does it mean Jesus only ate fish? Or does it mean Jesus only wore golden girdles....or does it mean Jesus only walked on water, never on dry ground...anyone not notice how this is a logical fallacy?

Did Jesus have a beard?

You think he ever bathed? Just because Jesus is pictured in one verse dressed a certain way is not a reason to assume that is how he always appeared

Maybe we need to all wear towels

Joh 13:3 Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into His hands, and that He had come from God and went to God,
Joh 13:4 He rose up from supper and laid aside His garments. And He took a towel and girded Himself.
Joh 13:5 After that He poured water into a basin and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel with which He was girded.

Praxeas 04-23-2007 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 85059)
So why not obey the whole scripture and require golden girdles too?

yeah and next time the ladies talk about breast feeding their infants they can instead use the more King Jameseque "paps" :donuts

Praxeas 04-23-2007 07:12 PM

Jesus rode on a horse....the Amish were right! Jesus never used electricity....the Amish were right! Whooo hooooo

Scott Hutchinson 04-23-2007 07:12 PM

Personally I don't think shorts on grown people in public are modest ,however Jams the knee length ones might be an exception.
In kindness I wear long pants only in public.

Subdued 04-23-2007 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 85059)
So why not obey the whole scripture and require golden girdles too?

I think that's a brilliant idea! When do we start??

Hoovie 04-23-2007 07:14 PM

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here we go

Pressing-On 04-23-2007 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Subdued (Post 85073)
I think that's a brilliant idea! When do we start??

Lord! You are soooo materialistic!!!! :girlnails

:thwak


:icecream

Pressing-On 04-23-2007 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 85074)
here we go

Don't football players wear those? :killinme

Praxeas 04-23-2007 07:21 PM

BTW, in addition to my incredible logical analysis of this issue, I add that Jesus did NOT wear pants......

Scott Hutchinson 04-23-2007 07:21 PM

Maybe Modern Women ought to start wearing corsets ?

Truthseeker 04-23-2007 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 85084)
BTW, in addition to my incredible logical analysis of this issue, I add that Jesus did NOT wear pants......



But what he did wear was down to his feet. and while we don't wear robes we can follow the principle of down to the feet.

Hoovie 04-23-2007 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 85085)
Maybe Modern Women ought to start wearing corsets ?

what? Your wife doesn't? :hypercoffee

Praxeas 04-23-2007 07:23 PM

some already do brother...among other items

Praxeas 04-23-2007 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 85087)
But what he did wear was down to his feet. and while we don't wear robes we can follow the principle of down to the feet.

If that is a principle, why be selective? Wear a girdle, wear a robe...wear just a towel...ride a horse..you don't see how that is logically fallacious yet?

Scott Hutchinson 04-23-2007 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover (Post 85088)
what? Your wife doesn't? :hypercoffee

No I can't convince her either.

Subdued 04-23-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 85079)
Lord! You are soooo materialistic!!!! :girlnails

:thwak


:icecream

Shhh... Don't TELL anyone!!

rgcraig 04-23-2007 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 85087)
But what he did wear was down to his feet. and while we don't wear robes we can follow the principle of down to the feet.

lol....that's pickin' and choosin' isn't it?

Praxeas 04-23-2007 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 85068)
Or does it mean Jesus only ate fish? Or does it mean Jesus only wore golden girdles....or does it mean Jesus only walked on water, never on dry ground...anyone not notice how this is a logical fallacy?

Did Jesus have a beard?

You think he ever bathed? Just because Jesus is pictured in one verse dressed a certain way is not a reason to assume that is how he always appeared

Maybe we need to all wear towels

Joh 13:3 Jesus knowing that the Father had given all things into His hands, and that He had come from God and went to God,
Joh 13:4 He rose up from supper and laid aside His garments. And He took a towel and girded Himself.
Joh 13:5 After that He poured water into a basin and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel with which He was girded.

Bump

Truthseeker 04-23-2007 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 85090)
If that is a principle, why be selective? Wear a girdle, wear a robe...wear just a towel...ride a horse..you don't see how that is logically fallacious yet?


hey no big words mister big stuff!

Anyways, It's not the point of what he wore but how he wore it. down as in completely convered.

For the record, I'm not saying the scriptures supports no shorts, just bringing it out for discussion. I believe most evrything in the bible is for a reason. there has to be a reason it points out he wore it to his feet.

Praxeas 04-23-2007 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 85098)
hey no big words mister big stuff!

Anyways, It's not the point of what he wore but how he wore it. down as in completely convered.

For the record, I'm not saying the scriptures supports no shorts, just bringing it out for discussion. I believe most evrything in the bible is for a reason. there has to be a reason it points out he wore it to his feet.

Yes we know that was the point. Our point is you are being obviously selective there....Jesus also wore a towel. He had a beard. He rode on a horse...you don't know that this is the ONLY way Jesus ever dressed. If someone can take one verse and show something Jesus did and insist that is how it should be for all of us at all times, then we need to stop wearing pants and wear robes...stop driving cars and ride horses etc etc...you really don't see how that is logically fallacious?

Why did John point out Jesus put on a towel?

rgcraig 04-23-2007 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 85098)
hey no big words mister big stuff!

Anyways, It's not the point of what he wore but how he wore it. down as in completely convered.

For the record, I'm not saying the scriptures supports no shorts, just bringing it out for discussion. I believe most evrything in the bible is for a reason. there has to be a reason it points out he wore it to his feet.

There has to be a reason for the golden girdle too.

Praxeas 04-23-2007 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 85100)
There has to be a reason for the golden girdle too.

and the reference to paps? :hypercoffee

Come on, lol. BTW do we really need this verse to support dressing modestly?

rgcraig 04-23-2007 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 85103)
and the reference to paps? :hypercoffee

Come on, lol. BTW do we really need this verse to support dressing modestly?

No.

Praxeas 04-23-2007 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 85108)
No.

Great Apostolic model of modesty
Joh 21:7 Then that disciple whom Jesus loves said to Peter, It is the Lord! Then hearing that it is the Lord, Simon Peter girded on his coat (for he was naked), and cast himself into the sea.

Yup, there you have it folks..if you want to be modest put on a coat and jump into the sea

Truthseeker 04-23-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 85103)
and the reference to paps? :hypercoffee

Come on, lol. BTW do we really need this verse to support dressing modestly?

I wouldn't expect a spandex wearer to accept this. :telephone

Truthseeker 04-23-2007 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 85100)
There has to be a reason for the golden girdle too.

Right, I've wondered of being completely covered symbolizes complete righteousness.

Praxeas 04-23-2007 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 85112)
I wouldn't expect a spandex wearer to accept this. :telephone

You are confusing me with MOW

rgcraig 04-23-2007 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 85114)
Right, I've wondered of being completely covered symbolizes complete righteousness.

Now I can buy that - - big difference in saying it's about wearing clothes to your feet.

Truthseeker 04-23-2007 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 85116)
You are confusing me with MOW

failed attempt at humor.

Praxeas 04-23-2007 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 85119)
failed attempt at humor.

lol....mine or yours? :hypercoffee

Pressing-On 04-23-2007 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 85112)
I wouldn't expect a spandex wearer to accept this. :telephone

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 85116)
You are confusing me with MOW

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 85119)
failed attempt at humor.

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 85123)
lol....mine or yours? :hypercoffee

Keep it rollin'

:popcorn2

:killinme :killinme

CupCake 04-23-2007 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 85033)
Rev 1:13

13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
KJV


Jesus is picture with a garment down to his feet, could this be used to teach against shorts?

I've also read where because the priest only showed his feet.hands and face when going into the holy place, we should to only show that much.


whta thinketh thou?

Hmmm that funny since the bible say a lot about men wearing skirts~

There are many more Bible verses for men wearing skirts than women wearing them! The Bible speaks of men's skirts twelve times: (Dt 22:30, Dt 27:20, Ru 3:9, 1 Sa 15:27, 1 Sa 24:4, 1 Sa 24:5, 1 Sa 24:11, 1 Sa 24:11, Eze 16:8, Hag 2:12, Hag 2:12, and Zec 8:23).

Praxeas 04-23-2007 09:01 PM

and towels...not just on their heads

Rev Dooley 04-23-2007 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 85033)
Rev 1:13

13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
KJV


Jesus is picture with a garment down to his feet, could this be used to teach against shorts?

I've also read where because the priest only showed his feet.hands and face when going into the holy place, we should to only show that much.


whta thinketh thou?

John was in exile on the Isle of Patmos. He was evidently alone. Jesus shows up. It's just the guys.
They could have donned some shorts and just dangled their feet in the water, after all it was just the two of them.
Yet, Jesus shows up clothed to foot. It is so remarkable that John recorded it. Why?
Maybe he realized that it was important enough for God to show up fully clothed even though no one else was going to see it that he noted it as worthy of mentioning.
NI


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