10 planks of the Communist Manifesto
 

The following are the 10 planks, or ideals, of the Communist Manifesto, taken from the English version of that document.

This is interesting as the Democratic Party is following these lines very closely.

THE TEN PLANKS OF THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO

I-THE ABOLISHING OF ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY-The democrats call this wealth redistribution

II-A HEAVY PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX-What more needs to be said?

III- ABOLISHING OF ALL RIGHTS OF INHERITANCE- Under the Democrat, Jimmy Carter, the inheritance tax was 70%. Under Bush, 43%

Look for this to jump back up when Bush's tax cuts expire in 2012.

IV- CONFISCATION OF THE PROPERTY OF ALL IMMIGRANTS AND REBELS-

V- CENTRALIZATION OF CREDIT IN THE HANDS OF THE STATE, BY MEANS OF A NATIONAL BANK, WITH STATE CAPITOL, AND AN EXCLUSIVE MONOPOLY- When America went from the gold standard in the 30's the value of the money began to drop. With the recent acquisition of Banks in the last year we see a dangerous trend developing towards communism.


VI- CENTRALIZATION OF THE MEANS OF COMMUNICATION AND TRANSPORTATION IN THE HANDS OF THE STATE.-The major push of environmental reasons for mass transit and control of the movement of people has less to do about the environment and more to do about control.

VII- NATIONALIZATION OF FACTORIES AND INSTRIMENTS OF PRODUCTION BY THE STATE.- Be wary when the government wants to control production and resources. The first move of any communistic government is nationalization of oil and production. This will also be the dissolution of the family farm.

VIII- EQUAL LIABILITY OF ALL TO WORK. ESTABLISHING OF INDUSTRIAL ARMIES, ESPECIALLY FOR AGRICULTURE. As unemployment grows, look for heavy government intervention.

IX-COMBINATION OF AGRICULTURE WITH MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIES. GRADUAL ABOLITION OF ALL THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN TOWN AND COUNTRY BY A MORE EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF THE POPULACE OVER THE COUNTRY. We will decide where you need to live and what would be best.

X- FREE EDUCATION FOR ALL CHILDREN IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. No more home schools and religious schools.



Also contained in the Communist Manifesto is the Statement that Communism replaces the idea of religion.

The following is the link.

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx...esto/index.htm

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Here is another link called- Communism in America- Mission Accomplished!

http://ezinearticles.com/?Communism-...ed!&id=2734245

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Bump for Jermyn!

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hogwash, the democratic party is not communist. communism failed in the 90's. the democrats have adjusted to reality.

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Brilliant rebuttal. It's amazing how well you were able to refute and dismantle the stunning comparisons between communism and modern democrats.

Oh wait. You didn't do that at all.

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http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a1/...miecleaner.jpg

:toofunny :toofunny

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Being a Democrat and saying the party is not Communist is like standing in the ocean and arguing that the water isn't wet.

In other words...you have to be lying or a fool.

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the only parts of this manifesto that agree with the democratic party are public schools, progressive tax, and inheritance tax. all the rest is hogwash.(satisfied nighthen?)

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You are either legitimately uninformed or intentionally playing the spin game again.

I- You've never heard of imminent domain? City or municiplaity can take yourland when they please as long as they offer you what they determine to be a "fair" compensation for it. Increasing taxes on the successful inorder to spread it to the less successful? You really want to play like you haven't heard Obama and Hilary say that multiple times?

II-Higher taxation for those who make more in order to prop up those who make less. That sounds liek stealing ones property(income) to give to another.

III- If you earned it and want to p[ass it on what right does any government have to say you can't?

IV- Just wait. It's coming.

V- You never heard of the Federal Reserve? The TARP funds that effectively put the banks under Federal control? Really? Or are you so naive you can't see the obvious?

VI- Fairness doctrine and others being pushed by liberals in order to silence opposition form the right. Very real and yet you want to argue it isn't happening. Amazing.

VII- Auto, banking and now healthcare. How much do the Feds have to control before you consider it to be Nationalization of the means of production?

VIII- How many "social" programs have the Feds cooked up to intervene for the "poor"? How many years now have they subsidized farmers? Thats exactly what this is all about.

IX- Give it time.

X- How long have schools been used as a means of Commie propaganda?

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Nitehawk,
I think you would enjoy this article and interview of John Mackey.

Hippie Capitalists and Other Rare Wonders of the Modern World
http://reason.com/blog/2009/12/29/hi...ts-and-other-r

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Just got back from Ice fishing, soon as I get them cleaned I will answer the questions.


:)

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We have National Banks and State Banks now. Most are National.

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The Federal Reserve is a centralized banking system

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"national" bank means run by the gov't, not national in sense of geography. we do not have any national banks or will we.

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Originally Posted by Monterrey

The following are the 10 planks, or ideals, of the Communist Manifesto, taken from the English version of that document.

This is interesting as the Democratic Party is following these lines very closely.

THE TEN PLANKS OF THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO

I-THE ABOLISHING OF ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY-The democrats call this wealth redistribution-

Dedicated says - tell me whose property has been confiscated?

Obama says that is his agenda! Wealth redistribution is the democrats way of taking your private property and giving it to others. Also, emminent domain and others.

II-A HEAVY PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX-What more needs to be said?

Uh, dedicated, what do you say about this?

III- ABOLISHING OF ALL RIGHTS OF INHERITANCE- Under the Democrat, Jimmy Carter, the inheritance tax was 70%. Under Bush, 43%

Look for this to jump back up when Bush's tax cuts expire in 2012.

Dedicated says - Even some rich conservatives don't believe in leaving their children millions

Dedicated, that is not even a good answer. What someone decides to do with their own millions is their right. My problem is when I have no choice.

IV- CONFISCATION OF THE PROPERTY OF ALL IMMIGRANTS AND REBELS-

Dedicated says- when has this happened???

It has not happened on that level yet, but the groundwork is in place.. ie penalties for who they call "Criminals". What is going to happen when they criminaize what you are doing?

V- CENTRALIZATION OF CREDIT IN THE HANDS OF THE STATE, BY MEANS OF A NATIONAL BANK, WITH STATE CAPITOL, AND AN EXCLUSIVE MONOPOLY- When America went from the gold standard in the 30's the value of the money began to drop. With the recent acquisition of Banks in the last year we see a dangerous trend developing towards communism.

Dedicated says -we don't have a national bank, we have private banks

Dedicated, just what is the Federal Reserve? How could they buy GM and the others if they are not a bank? What is Freddie and Fannie?

VI- CENTRALIZATION OF THE MEANS OF COMMUNICATION AND TRANSPORTATION IN THE HANDS OF THE STATE.-The major push of environmental reasons for mass transit and control of the movement of people has less to do about the environment and more to do about control.

Dedicated says - we have freedom of the press have u ever seen fox news, ridiculous

And yes, Dedicated, they are trying to institute legislation to control that particular media outlet. The Fairness Doctrine I believe?

VII- NATIONALIZATION OF FACTORIES AND INSTRIMENTS OF PRODUCTION BY THE STATE.- Be wary when the government wants to control production and resources. The first move of any communistic government is nationalization of oil and production. This will also be the dissolution of the family farm.

Dedicated says- there is absolutely no nationalization of industry in america except for the auto and bank bailout started by bush

I say, you've answered your own question.

VIII- EQUAL LIABILITY OF ALL TO WORK. ESTABLISHING OF INDUSTRIAL ARMIES, ESPECIALLY FOR AGRICULTURE. As unemployment grows, look for heavy government intervention. there is absolutely no government intervention in unempolyment besides increased spending

IX-COMBINATION OF AGRICULTURE WITH MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIES. GRADUAL ABOLITION OF ALL THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN TOWN AND COUNTRY BY A MORE EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF THE POPULACE OVER THE COUNTRY. We will decide where you need to live and what would be best. hogwash demographics are decided by the economy not government

X- FREE EDUCATION FOR ALL CHILDREN IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. No more home schools and religious schools.

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To not believe the Dems. have turned heavy communistic is to ignore the Communist Partys own declaration. They are not hiding it, why do some ignore it?
http://cpusa.org/ Check it out and see if any of it sounds familiar.

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in sense of geography????

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Whatthen do you consider the Federal Reserve and groups like the FDIC to be then? Good grief man...they are Federal organizxations running the banks, controlling the nations money!

We make the goods, produce a product, employ the employees, make the money only to put it into a bank and then have them charge us interest to let us borrow our own money! And the Gov is behind it loving every minute of it.

Sweet God you cannot be that daft as to not see it!

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Wow.

The glasses through which I see the world can make things seem whatever I want to see.


Later, I will respond to this thread in more depth.

But if I wanted to say anything negative about any facet of this country or anything broad about a political group, I could do so by presenting certain "facts" in a certain manner.

It's called spin.

For example the FDIC is not a bank-- it insures the banks and insures the safety of the citizens financial deposits, up to ($250,000.00?).

However, if you want to paint the FDIC in a bad light, I guess you could.


I'll be back with more later.

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You are comfortable with the Fed being involved in what should be private banking and commerce. I am not.

I do not want the Fed near my money. They are blood sucking vampires that drain the life from the citizenry.

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You need to read up on the Federal Reserve. It is intentionally undefinable. It's not government based and yet all decisions by the federal government must be decided based on decisions made by the Federal Reserve. Do you know the Fed has NEVER been audited??

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One of the conspiracy theories surrounding JFK's shooting was that he had a bill on his desk to sign that would have effectively shut down the Federal Reserve/made it transparent and auditable.

Look how that turned out for Pres. Kennedy.

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Snort, ROFL,:eek:

DedicatedtoObama- You are extremely gullible and have been sucked into the socialistic system!

We are days or weeks away from the newest legislation, in the senate right now, that is supposed to reform Wall Street, but in reality is going to create some super banks that are totally funded by the, guess who?....

That's right Dedi, by the US Government.

We already have State Banks because they are the ones who are putting the money into the banks to make available to you and I to borrow. They are telling the bank execs how much they can make,.... they are seeking more federal control of those banks that they invest in.

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Whoever controls the money controls the nation!

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Reminds me of the Golden Rule:

Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.

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Ever hear of fiat money?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_money

Your money is only worth something because people will take it for goods. It is backed by zip...nada.

That means that if things changed and people would NOT take your money, meaning that the dollar had no value, what would you have left? Is your house paid for? Is your car paid for? How would you pay property taxes?

By and large, what we own is an illusion (or at least not at all what we think).

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Yep, and the average citizen is seemingly unaware of the global puppet show where the globalists are pulling the strings on both "sides" and one way they have gotten political control is thru control of the money system.

Here are some interesting articles, the first two were written by an apostolic minister.

(quotes from the articles are below each link)

MIKHAIL GORBACHEV: From the PRESIDIUM ...to the PRESIDIO

The purpose of this article is to show you exactly who Mikhail Gorbachev is, and examine the enormous role he played in promoting the Socialist Globalist agenda in the West. In this process, you will see that the New World Order, and specifically, the Biblical Antichrist system is well on its way to subduing the earth.


Is the Devil in the New World Order?
Most people are not aware of the Luciferic connection.

In every presidential administration of this century, a substantial, if not majority of all members were linked to Luciferian inspired organizations. Most people seemingly do not know that politics and religion today have been carefully choreographed for centuries with an ultimate goal of world dominion in the mind of Satan and his schemers.


The West's Fatal Embrace of Communism

The US mass media (and most corporations) are controlled by the central banking cartel, i.e. the Rothschilds, Warburgs, Rockefellers etc. These are the same people who sponsored Communism.

The guiding principle behind world events is their plan to translate their monopoly over government credit into a world monopoly of power, business, culture and religion.

These bankers use a Hegelian dialectic to achieve their end. They created both Capitalism and Communism as thesis and antithesis. Their aim is a synthesis, combining the political and cultural tyranny of Communism with the appearance of Capitalist free markets.

In 1953, Ford Foundation President, H. Rowan Gaither told Congressional Investigator Norman Dodd that his instructions were to use "our grant-making power so to alter our life in the United States that we can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union."


Central Bankers Seek Totalitarian Power

The "War on Terror" is a ruse by central bankers to control every aspect of your life.

Reviewing "The Red Symphony" recently, I was shocked to read an insider's statement that the bankers are not content with infinite wealth, but want unlimited power.

"The Red Symphony" is a 1938 Stalinist Secret Police (NKVD) interrogation of Christian Rakovsky, a Soviet ambassador who was a close associate of Leon Trotsky, Rothschild's agent.

I introduced this explosive 50-page document to my readers two years ago. It strips the veil from modern history and explains the real meaning of Revolution, Communism, Freemasonry and War. It was not intended to become public knowledge. The translator, a Dr. J. Landowsky, made an unauthorized copy.

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JFK speech on secret societies + transcript/subtitles
(4 minutes, 30 seconds)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZYfeYhQ9eU


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The Dems aren't Commies, just as the Republicans aren't Fascists.

And if they are Communists, God bless them despite being wrong in their idea of human government.

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If y'all want to get technical, both the Dems and the Republicans are both controlled at the higher levels by globalists who are working towards a socialist one world government run by corporate fascists :-)