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DAII 01-20-2010 07:44 AM

The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
I marvel to see the pseudo-conservative posters on this forum who have now jumped on the imaginary Brown for President 2012 bandwagon.

I wonder if there will be righteous indignation if this indeed does happen ...

When Dems question and belittle the experience of a politician with limited experience as a state legislator and with much less experience as a federal legislator if he makes a run in 2012.

Where will the "community organizer" cat calls be?

More hypocritical ... are the Christian right activists here that are willing to abandon their moral holy grails ... and support a candidate that supports legalized abortion and admittedly holds the same views on anti-gay marriage and pro civil-unions as Obama.

Looks like a pact "with the devil" is in the making ... as party zeal blinds the lockstep hate-talk show sycophants who have sought to spiritualize politics on this forum.

Surely some will compromise principle in the their hatred ....

Neck 01-20-2010 08:18 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
If Brown did not win the election then we would have more piled on us. If Bill Clinton could change his pro-life... life-long stance as Gov of Arkansas to pro-choice. Then Scott Brown could change his stance on pro-choice to pro-life to fit his parties agenda. You can't call the celebrating republicans hypocritical until you look the AFF camera in the face and say, Bill Clinton is also hypocritical!

n david 01-20-2010 08:36 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
It's true, Brown has as much experience as Obama did before running for President. In fact, Brown would almost mirror BHO's US Senate experience if he ran in 2012. I believe Brown was in state politics as a Rep and State Senator longer than BHO though.

I also find it amusing that so many conservatives rallied behind a former nude Cosmo mag model, pro-choice and civil union politician ... but politics makes strange bedfellows they say.

I'm glad Brown won. Obama and Democrats need to slow down in their pursuit to wreck the country.

Right now it's wayyyy too soon to talk about Brown for President, but I wouldn't care if he was on the ticket as VP in 2012.

DAII 01-20-2010 08:42 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 867644)
It's true, Brown has as much experience as Obama did before running for President. In fact, Brown would almost mirror BHO's US Senate experience if he ran in 2012. I believe Brown was in state politics as a Rep and State Senator longer than BHO though.

I also find it amusing that so many conservatives rallied behind a former nude Cosmo mag model, pro-choice and civil union politician ... but politics makes strange bedfellows they say.

I'm glad Brown won. Obama and Democrats need to slow down in their pursuit to wreck the country.

Right now it's wayyyy too soon to talk about Brown for President, but I wouldn't care if he was on the ticket as VP in 2012.

Thanx for being consistent.

DAII 01-20-2010 08:45 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
N David can you clarify your "thumbs up" to Hoovie's suggestion to a Brown-Jindal ticket here:

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...09&postcount=6

crakjak 01-20-2010 08:47 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 867626)
I marvel to see the pseudo-conservative posters on this forum who have now jumped on the imaginary Brown for President 2012 bandwagon.

I wonder if there will be righteous indignation if this indeed does happen ...

When Dems question and belittle the experience of a politician with limited experience as a state legislator and with much less experience as a federal legislator if he makes a run in 2012.

Where will the "community organizer" cat calls be?

More hypocritical ... are the Christian right activists here that are willing to abandon their moral holy grails ... and support a candidate that supports legalized abortion and admittedly holds the same views on anti-gay marriage and pro civil-unions as Obama.

Looks like a pact "with the devil" is in the making ... as party zeal blinds the lockstep hate-talk show sycophants who have sought to spiritualize politics on this forum.

Surely some will compromise principle in the their hatred ....

We will have to observe how Scott Brown serves in the Senate, and compare that to Obama's. Yep, we'll see how that goes, Obama had nothing to show for his two years of "not being" in the Senate. Except maybe for meeting with far leftist to see how he could use Chicago politics to steal the presidency.
ie:Acorn etc.

Aquila 01-20-2010 09:15 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Let's face it, the Republican Party is the party of business and free enterprise... and religion is a business.

Apocrypha 01-20-2010 09:24 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Romney / Jindall 2012 would crush Obama.

Light 01-20-2010 09:29 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 867651)
We will have to observe how Scott Brown serves in the Senate, and compare that to Obama's. Yep, we'll see how that goes, Obama had nothing to show for his two years of "not being" in the Senate. Except maybe for meeting with far leftist to see how he could use Chicago politics to steal the presidency.
ie:Acorn etc.


So if he does the things that conservatories want his lower than low morals don't matter to you. All the abortion talk was just that TALK. Being nude in a national mag. is all right now. Why my goodness how things change.

n david 01-20-2010 09:32 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 867648)
N David can you clarify your "thumbs up" to Hoovie's suggestion to a Brown-Jindal ticket here:

http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...09&postcount=6

Clarification, the ticket is actually Jindal-Brown.

From what I've read of Jindal, I like him and wouldn't mind seeing him run for President. And based on my comments above, I wouldn't mind Brown on a ticket in 2012 as VP.

Brown won the Indie votes and even took some Democrat votes ... the next Republican candidate needs someone on the ticket to get those votes in order to win.

DAII 01-20-2010 09:39 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 867665)

So if he does the things that conservatories want his lower than low morals don't matter to you. All the abortion talk was just that TALK. Being nude in a national mag. is all right now. Why my goodness how things change.

Amen, Light. Seems that socially, Brown, might be more liberal than Obama ...
Don't think Obama would pose nude in a national mag.

But the Communist bogeyman might bring the the Tribulation and so the Tim LaHaye crowd wants the trumpet to be blown but are willing to stall the inevitable.

RevDWW 01-20-2010 09:41 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Not hypocrisy, just the lessor of two evils.

What little I do know about the guy tells me he should not and most likely will not be on the ticket in 2012.

RevDWW 01-20-2010 09:48 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 867670)
Amen, Light. Seems that socially Brown might be more liberal than Obama ...
Don't think Obama would pose nude in a national mag.

But the Communist bogeyman might bring the the Tribulation and so the Tim LaHaye crowd wants the trumpet to be blown but are willing to stall the inevitable.


Without any the hyperbole and rhetoric, can you honestly tell me you don't see this Administration as tauting socialistic policies?

Digging4Truth 01-20-2010 09:57 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 867626)
I marvel to see the pseudo-conservative posters on this forum who have now jumped on the imaginary Brown for President 2012 bandwagon.

I wonder if there will be righteous indignation if this indeed does happen ...

When Dems question and belittle the experience of a politician with limited experience as a state legislator and with much less experience as a federal legislator if he makes a run in 2012.

Where will the "community organizer" cat calls be?

More hypocritical ... are the Christian right activists here that are willing to abandon their moral holy grails ... and support a candidate that supports legalized abortion and admittedly holds the same views on anti-gay marriage and pro civil-unions as Obama.

Looks like a pact "with the devil" is in the making ... as party zeal blinds the lockstep hate-talk show sycophants who have sought to spiritualize politics on this forum.

Surely some will compromise principle in the their hatred ....

This comes from both sides.

DAII 01-20-2010 10:01 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 867682)
This comes from both sides.

Coudn't agree more.

DAII 01-20-2010 10:07 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 867657)
Let's face it, the Republican Party is the party of business and free enterprise... and religion is a business.

The Christian right is being taken for a ride, imo. And now, it's more about the lessor of two evils. Remember the day when Dan Quayle championed family values

The last time Republicans won is because the Christian right was energized and got George Dubya elected during a recession.

I can't see that type of energy behind Brown.

Nope ... Brown on your ticket ... either as President or VP is your salvation even if he carried Massuchusett's 12 electoral votes.

rgcraig 01-20-2010 10:11 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 867690)
The Christian right is being taken for a ride, imo. And now, it's more about the lessor of two evils.

The last time Republicans won is because the Christian right was energized and got George Dubya elected during a recession.

I can't see that type of energy behind Brown.

Nope ... Brown on your ticket ... either as President or VP is your salvation even if he carried Massuchusett's 12 electoral votes.

Is or is not?

DAII 01-20-2010 10:11 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 867676)
Without any the hyperbole and rhetoric, can you honestly tell me you don't see this Administration as tauting socialistic policies?

I see both parties in the latter part the 20th century ardently supporting Keynesian economics with libs more on the left of that spectrum.

Together forming the unified FUNDRAISING party.

The socialist and communist tag makes for good fodder and irate fanatic callers on your favorite hate talk show or forum.

This dude is as much a conservative poser as McKain. McKain definitely to Brown's right.

rgcraig 01-20-2010 10:16 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
DAII

Who would be your PERFECT candidate for 2012?

DAII 01-20-2010 10:17 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 867695)
DAII

Who would be your PERFECT candidate for 2012?

Me.

All kidding aside ... I'm praying the Libertarians could find themselves a charismatic figure ... since that's as much as part of the 21st century propaganda machinery.

rgcraig 01-20-2010 10:18 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 867696)
Me.

All kidding aside ... I'm praying the Libertarians could find themselves a charismatic figure ... since that's as much as part of the 21st century propaganda machinery.

And that would be?

DAII 01-20-2010 10:20 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 867697)
And that would be?

Who knows but it's time we had a viable 3rd party option.

RevDWW 01-20-2010 10:24 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 867694)
I see both parties in the latter part the 20th century ardently supporting Keynesian economics with libs more on the left of that spectrum.

Together forming the unified FUNDRAISING party.

The socialist and communist tag makes for good fodder and irate callers on your favorite hate talk show or forum.

This dude is as much a conservative poser as McKain. McKain definitely to Brown's right.

I would guess that many many folks disagree with the direction of the current Admn, but aren't "Haters" as you would suggest. You need to listen to Beck with your wife more often. :nod He says some of the same things you are saying about the two parties and would agree with you on McCain.

Perhaops a little study on your part of Saul Alinsky would open your eyes a bit to the direction we are heading. And some reading on Cloward-Piven wouldn't hurt you either. I'm confident you are apt at googling so I post on links.

RevDWW 01-20-2010 10:25 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 867699)
Who knows but it's time we had a viable 3rd party option.

Do you think the "Tea Party Movement" could be a viable vehicle for such a third party?

Pressing-On 01-20-2010 10:51 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 867703)
Do you think the "Tea Party Movement" could be a viable vehicle for such a third party?

Well, I definitely must come off my break to comment here.

We do not need a third party. The planks of the Republican Party are just fine. We need our elected officials to return to those planks - hence - the tea partiers are pushing this agenda.

Now, let's not overlook a major player in the future. He has been my man all along - Mike Pence. Has a wonderful record! Found out this exciting news this morning:

Quote:

Run, Mike Pence, run!

I want this to happen, don’t you?

Don’t worry about the support of the NRSC or Beltway Republicans. The money will come, Rep. Pence — from grass-roots conservatives across the country who have appreciated your stalwart, unwavering, unapologetic, explicit, and proven commitment to the Constitution and conservative principles.

In the wake of winning MA, GOPers are looking to put 1 more state in play if they can convince House GOP Conference chair Mike Pence to run against Sen. Evan Bayh (R-IN).

Pence and his aides will meet with top staffers at the NRSC tomorrow, several sources tell Hotline OnCall, where they will discuss a possible bid. The NRSC has polled IN, and their survey shows Pence in a competitive position, though he trails Bayh in initial matchups.
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/01/20...ike-pence-run/

Run, Mike, Run!!!
You already have my vote in 2012!!! :thumbsup

rgcraig 01-20-2010 11:05 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 867699)
Who knows but it's time we had a viable 3rd party option.

I agree!

rgcraig 01-20-2010 11:12 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 867709)
Well, I definitely must come off my break to comment here.

We do not need a third party. The planks of the Republican Party are just fine. We need our elected officials to return to those planks - hence - the tea partiers are pushing this agenda.

Now, let's not overlook a major player in the future. He has been my man all along - Mike Pence. Has a wonderful record! Found out this exciting news this morning:



Run, Mike, Run!!!
You already have my vote in 2012!!! :thumbsup

Nice looking to boot!

DAII 01-20-2010 11:14 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 867717)
I agree!

In a land that has an aisle dedicated solely to offering the plethora of cereals on the market ... politically we engorge ourselves on flakes and fruit loops.

Pressing-On 01-20-2010 11:21 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 867722)
Nice looking to boot!

You must have gotten the Cosmo fold out on Facebook. Gosh I love hairy men! :toofunny Seriously, what was that about? I didn't know anything about it. He looked much younger in that picture. :toofunny

He's a Republican, but not a Conservative. Just glad he has stepped in on the healthcare issue.

rgcraig 01-20-2010 11:23 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 867729)
You must have gotten the Cosmo fold out on Facebook. Gosh I love hairy men! :toofunny Seriously, what was that about? I didn't know anything about it. He looked much younger in that picture. :toofunny

He's a Republican, but not a Conservative. Just glad he has stepped in on the healthcare issue.

LOL - - no, I didn't get that.

I was just going by a couple pics I've seen of him in a suit!

Pressing-On 01-20-2010 11:25 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 867732)
LOL - - no, I didn't get that.

I was just going by a couple pics I've seen of him in a suit!

I wasn't expecting to see that posted! I was like - dang - can I put that in my Photobucket account?!! Just kidding!!!! :toofunny

My husband walked into the living room right when it was posted. I didn't have time to save it. DRAT!!! :toofunny

pelathais 01-20-2010 11:28 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 867626)
I marvel to see the pseudo-conservative posters on this forum who have now jumped on the imaginary Brown for President 2012 bandwagon.

I wonder if there will be righteous indignation if this indeed does happen ...

When Dems question and belittle the experience of a politician with limited experience as a state legislator and with much less experience as a federal legislator if he makes a run in 2012.

Where will the "community organizer" cat calls be?

More hypocritical ... are the Christian right activists here that are willing to abandon their moral holy grails ... and support a candidate that supports legalized abortion and admittedly holds the same views on anti-gay marriage and pro civil-unions as Obama.

Looks like a pact "with the devil" is in the making ... as party zeal blinds the lockstep hate-talk show sycophants who have sought to spiritualize politics on this forum.

Surely some will compromise principle in the their hatred ....

C'mon Dan. Nobody's "hatin.'" You're just down after you candidate lost and you feel miserable watching others do that silly little dance people do when their guy wins. By the weekend it won't even register.

For me, it's Brown's openness on the social issues that make me feel a bit more comfortable with his style of politics than with many others.

The fact that anyone is even silly enough to to say "Brown in 2012" speaks more to the dearth of good Republican candidates than it says anything about Brown himself. And, our good Mormon friend Mitt was there as emcee for the Brown victory party so I think we know where Brown himself stands on 2012.

Light 01-20-2010 11:38 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 867673)
Not hypocrisy, just the lessor of two evils.

What little I do know about the guy tells me he should not and most likely will not be on the ticket in 2012.


Let's see now wasn't it the religious conservatives on this board that called me a baby killer because I voted for Obama? So it comes down to the truth abortion is only a sin if a democrat supports someone who is pro choice. Vote Republicans it doesn't matter if they support abortion, they are just the lesser of the two evil !!

ForeverBlessed 01-20-2010 11:41 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 867709)
Well, I definitely must come off my break to comment here.

We do not need a third party. The planks of the Republican Party are just fine. We need our elected officials to return to those planks - hence - the tea partiers are pushing this agenda.

Now, let's not overlook a major player in the future. He has been my man all along - Mike Pence. Has a wonderful record! Found out this exciting news this morning:



Run, Mike, Run!!!
You already have my vote in 2012!!! :thumbsup

Mike Pence is a good man.... he met my former church at White House for tour. He's the Rep in the district where my family is from.

I agree with you that we do not need a third party... get back to the basics.

btw, Dan mentioned former D Quayle and his family values... I worked for his campaign and he wouldn't travel anywhere without one of his children because he didn't want anyone to ever say he was in inappropriate situations as a married man... he never gave the opportunity for evil to be spoken against him. He was true blue conservative too...and I considered it a honor to know him and his wife personally. I always hated to see him being shred to pieces by media, because he was a good person.

Pressing-On 01-20-2010 11:44 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverBlessed (Post 867748)
Mike Pence is a good man.... he met my former church at White House for tour. He's the Rep in the district where my family is from.

I agree with you that we do not need a third party... get back to the basics.

btw, Dan mentioned former D Quayle and his family values... I worked for his campaign and he wouldn't travel anywhere without one of his children because he didn't want anyone to ever say he was in inappropriate situations as a married man... he never gave the opportunity for evil to be spoken against him. He was true blue conservative too...and I considered it a honor to know him and his wife personally. I always hated to see him being shred to pieces by media, because he was a good person.

Dan always seemed to be a good person. They always try to make you look silly when you are. Palin is a good example. Make her look stupid and people will believe it. Well, Fox is giving her a chance to prove them wrong. She still needs work, but she's on her way.

I am so excited to see this development with Mike Pence this morning. I felt that he would be making a presidential run at some point. He will win that Senate seat and he will win in 2012! :thumbsup

RevDWW 01-20-2010 11:51 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 867744)
Let's see now wasn't it the religious conservatives on this board that called me a baby killer because I voted for Obama? So it comes down to the truth abortion is only a sin if a democrat supports someone who is pro choice. Vote Republicans it doesn't matter if they support abortion, they are just the lesser of the two evil !!

Not sure who called you what or what you really are for that matter. I would say that his coming out against the Health Care Bill is what got him elected, that and his opponent was worse than he was.

Is it better to vote for someone you totally oppose or someone you might agree with in many areas?

n david 01-20-2010 11:51 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 867752)
Dan always seemed to be a good person. They always try to make you look silly when you are. Palin is a good example. Make her look stupid and people will believe it. Well, Fox is giving her a chance to prove them wrong. She still needs work, but she's on her way.

I am so excited to see this development with Mike Pence this morning. I felt that he would be making a presidential run at some point. He will win that Senate seat and he will win in 2012! :thumbsup

Palin didn't need the media or anyone else to help her look stupid ... she did well enough by herself. :lol

ForeverBlessed 01-20-2010 11:55 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 867729)
You must have gotten the Cosmo fold out on Facebook. Gosh I love hairy men! :toofunny Seriously, what was that about? I didn't know anything about it. He looked much younger in that picture. :toofunny

He's a Republican, but not a Conservative. Just glad he has stepped in on the healthcare issue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgcraig (Post 867732)
LOL - - no, I didn't get that.

I was just going by a couple pics I've seen of him in a suit!

Oh My, I remember that cosmo fold out. :blush

He is very nice looking and has aged well. lol

RevDWW 01-20-2010 11:55 AM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 867723)
In a land that has an aisle dedicated solely to offering the plethora of cereals on the market ... politically we engorge ourselves on flakes and fruit loops.

Nicely stated.

DAII 01-20-2010 12:02 PM

Re: The Hypocrisy of the Brown 2012 bandwagon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother David (Post 867737)
C'mon Dan. Nobody's "hatin.'" You're just down after you candidate lost and you feel miserable watching others do that silly little dance people do when their guy wins. By the weekend it won't even register.

For me, it's Brown's openness on the social issues that make me feel a bit more comfortable with his style of politics than with many others.

The fact that anyone is even silly enough to to say "Brown in 2012" speaks more to the dearth of good Republican candidates than it says anything about Brown himself. And, our good Mormon friend Mitt was there as emcee for the Brown victory party so I think we know where Brown himself stands on 2012.

FTR, I had no horse in the Mass. race.

:)

I agree this Brown for President euphoria and temporary insanity is a case of slim pickings ...

As to aligning with Mitt ... speaks to me of a chameleon candidate who might be willing to change colors at a whim for political gain and expediency, imo.


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