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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583461,00.html

What do Alyssa Milano, Sandra Bullock, Lance Armstrong, Gisele Bundchen, the country of Senegal and — very possibly — you have in common?


All — including you — have donated more funds to the Haitian relief effort than oil-rich nations like Saudi Arabia and Iran.


That's right ... if you personally have donated money to help the earthquake-stricken people of Haiti, then you have contributed more money than the governments of Saudi Arabia and Iran, whose combined dollar donation is a big fat zero.

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Here is what the Saudi's spend their money on
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...est=latestnews

A teenage girl in Saudi Arabia has been sentenced to 90 lashes and two months in prison for taking a cell phone to school, the U.K.'s Daily Mail reported Wednesday.

The 13-year-old's punishment, harsher than that given to some robbers and looters, requires her to be flogged in front of her classmates, the Daily Mail quoted Saudi newspaper Al-Watan.


She was reportedly hiding a cell phone in class, breaking strict Saudi regulations banning their use in girls' schools.

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:blink

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:thumbsup

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Txt'd 'HAITI' to 90999! :D

A $10 donation is charged to cell phone bill. :thumbsup

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I believe that 10.00 donation goes to the Red Cross, right?

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Next time someone attacks SA or disaster strikes, I hope we respond in kind. I hate the fact that our politicians grovel before these idiots all because of oil. It's time to drill for oil here so we can get out of SA and leave them to their own demise.

SA is just as bad and evil, if not worse than China, North Korea, Venezuala and Cuba.

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Read this status on Facebook!

Haiti is without a government. To help out, the US will donate one Obama, one Pelosi, one Reid, one Frank, one Coakley, and two Clintons! They may keep them permanently. We'd give them a Constitution, but we can't find it right now.

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We could give them a massive health care bill instead... :toofunny

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I'm sure this will offend, but maybe Saudi is right.

I'm more worried about the financial crisis in my country with my countrymen than I am with a bunch of haitians. I am not sending or giving them one penny.

When these hollywood idiots start pouring millions into programs to help hungry and homeless Americans I may take notice of their efforts.

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amen

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a bunch of haitians? Is that like a bunch of Mexicans? A bunch of blacks?

BTW Did you read the article? Hollywood people have been giving, So have others with money like Bill Gates. They give and gave to American causes as well as to relief efforts like this. You really think Saudi did not give because they are in a financial crisis? They have so much money they can use it for toilet paper.

Oh, and you want to wait for the greedy to give before you do? that doesn't reflect well on you Im afraid.

I want our government to fix our crisis but as long as I have some money and I can give, then Im gonna give and $10 is chump change.

If you can't afford it, then say so and don't give, but if your reasoning is you don't want to give because you are biased against haitians...that's not good.

Why do you need to "take notice" of some one's efforts you called an idiot...They are idiots because they don't give....do you give? IF not what does that make you?

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Most all of the "hungry and homeless" Americans live in towns where there are homeless shelters and soup kitchens available to most anyone who will put in the effort to find them.

And as someone who has close family members who have suffered catastrophically due to the financial crisis (loss of business, home, cars... complete bankruptcy and inability to find a job for almost a year,) what they have suffered does not even begin to compare to what these people in Haiti are experiencing. Are you serious?

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wonder if it offends anyone "upstairs".

lessons from my grandpa....never pass up a chance to do something good for someone, no matter how small or great the deed, no who they are, no matter how much it cost. after all...isn't that what HE would do..and did?

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Yes, it does. Isn't that the Michelle Obama commercial?

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I donated during a playoff game. They gave the number then to text to

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I give, but I'm not giving to people in another country when people right here are in need. People in my own church are in need, and I'm sorry but they are more important and mean more to me than a bunch of people on an island.

We have a national debt of some 13 Trillion dollars. We have millions who are starving and homeless. Millions more who are barely able to put food on the table.Instead of seeing how many foreign countries and peoples we can support and help, maybe we would be smart to instead say "we are suspending all foreign aid and relif until we get our own hous ein order. Until then, it is as dumb and irresponsible as trying to put out a brush fire in our neighbors yard while letting our own home be engulfed in flames".

An earthquake hits and the news goes crazy showing all the sad pictures they can in order to get our wallets open. There is no news program trumpetting the millions in need here everyday so they get ignored. I'm sorry but I'm not moved by the devastation in Haiti. I'm alot more moved by the fact that so many Americans ignore thier fellow countrymen in need, often fellow neighbors or church members, but give to help peopel in every other country.

I find that sad. I was raised that you take care of your own first.

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I find your position sad! I pray that you receive a gift of compassion for unfortunate people around the world that you will never know or meet.

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I agree.

The continual use of "a bunch of people" is just unbelievable.

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Archie Bunker said, "The Bible says that charity begins and ends at home."

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If someone you don't even know is hungry do you ignore the needs of your family or next door neighbors in order to give to the stranger?

If so, I think that speaks much more to ones lack of true character than it does mine.

As long as this country has people living in their cars, old people having to choose between buying food or buying meds, good men who go to work everyday on the verge of losing their homes and unable to feed their kids, veterans living in boxes in alleys, etc then other countries should not see one penny of aid from our government. Take care of our own hurting before you throw money at foreign countries.

And no I am not advocating Federal programs do the work. I mean we the people. Instead of giving all our charity to Haitians, Africans, etc etc maybe that $10 would be better spent going to that senior citizen neighbor that you know darn well is having trouble buying groceries. Maybe it would be better spent going to the local food pantry or shelter.

I get it. It's not fashionable, popular or "politically correct" to say what I'm saying but if more people would care more about our own hurting than foreign strangers we wouldn't need all these Federal "social programs". People would take care of others on their own.

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I say do the one, and not leave the other undone. help where ability can.

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Flabbergasting. In a bad way.

I was raised that the human race was "my own.".

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:thumbsup

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To be honest, they aren't even comparable.

Haiti was bad off before. Bad doesn't even begin to describe it. Haiti was terrible before. The poorest person in America was better off than most of Haiti before this earthquake. Haiti didn't have building codes that were enforced or a feasible plan in case something like this happened. Just turn on CNN (or CNN.com if you're an ultracon ;) ) to see how badly it is. Nothing like this will ever happen in America with 200,000+ lives lost because we have safeguards in place that Haiti, unfortunately, was missing.

The fact that you're not moved by the devastation in Haiti is shocking. Just think, in a country with that many who weren't Christian, how many souls were lost? That alone should be enough to break your heart. I'm up for helping out our fellow Americans when it's needed, but there's no reason that we shouldn't help out both our own countrymen and ravaged Haiti if it's within our means.

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First of all, why can't you help both those in your local church in need and $10 to the Red Cross for relief? It's clearly not an issue of you being too poor...you have not once said "Well I just don't have enough"

Here...Here they get welfare.

Here...We sent millions of money aid to Katrina victims.

Here... we have homeless shelters.

Here... we have shelters.

Here...we put people up in hotels when disaster hits.

Here...we have FEMA.

Here...we give to everything. There are tons of things to give money to to help out Americans,

There...400,000 people are without homes, food, water. They are a poor nation...and of all the things Christ was about was helping others.

$10...unless you are yourself dirt poor and can't afford it, your excuses sound incriminating

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NH, I donated more earlier - but I am making a second in your "honor". I certainly don't think anyone should be required to give anything at all - but your post certainly compels me to be more compassionate.

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Bro. Nitehawk,
With all due respect, nothing reveals whats in the heart of a man like the words that come from his own mouth. First of all, a great number of Americas impoverished are in that condition by their own choice. Drugs, alcohol, and poor decisions put many of them where they are. Some are there because its easier to depend on the government and charitable groups to sustain them than to get out and find a job. So, while we "take care of own own", and, of course we should, are we really taking care of many of them them or are we enabling them to remain where they choose to be? I'm all for taking care of our own and those "stupid Hollywood types", as you call them, do more to help "their own they you or I will ever realize. Remember Willie Nelson and Farmaid? The country has more programs than I could ever name to "take care of its own". Churches and groups like the Red Cross and the Salvation Army are there to "take care of their own". "Our own" has help...if they choose to avail them selves of it.

they are more important People who were born in America are more important than "a bunch of people living on an island"? This reminds of James' discourse on respect of persons.

Jam 2:1 ¶ My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, [the Lord] of glory, with respect of persons.

Jam 2:2 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;

Jam 2:3 And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:

we get our own hous ein (sic) order. The fact is, we will never get our "house in order". Even Jesus said that: Mar 14:7 For ye have the poor with you always, and whensoever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always. The NIV says it this way: The poor you will always have with you, and you can help them any time you want. But you will not always have me. You and I can help Americas homeless and poor anytime we want to. But, "closing up our bowels of compassion" (1 John 3:17) in the face of Haiti's worst natural disaster to "care for own own"? John asked, so I will ask..."How can we say we have God's love is we close up our bowels of compassion toward those in desperate need?"

I'm not moved by the devastation in Haiti. Jesus was "moved with compassion" toward a hungry multitude. And you aren't moved by the suffering of the people of Haiti? Again, what a man says reveals whats in his heart. Rather than being "moved with compassion" toward the devastation in Haiti, you seem to be like 10 of the disciples who were "moved with indignation" against two of their own. That "bunch of Haitians" ARE our own, Brother. The Spirit of God moves us with compassion for those suffering. Its the flesh that moves us with indignation.

I was raised that you take care of your own first. I was raised that way too, Brother. Who cares about a "bunch of Haitians" Especially BLACK Haitians. Those bunch of devil worshippers probably deserved what they got. Yeah, I was raised that way. But, thankfully, I got saved. God changed me. Now I realize God isn't willing that any should perish and I'm not either. God help us all when we are no longer "moved by the devastation" of anyone in need.

I know this is long, and will go unread... but I just had to say it.

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Read every word of it OA and you were right on!

Thanks Hoovie for you extended generosity - I might do the same.

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Reminds me of the words to the song I learned many years ago when I was in the Brownie Scouts:

Make new friends but keep the old. One is silver and the other is gold.

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Me too, Renda. I didn't want to quote it and take up all that space again, but it was an awesome post.

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We have an old minister in my church. He pastored a small church for many many years before handing it to the next pastor. He has no retirement. No savings. Nothing b/c his little church never got big enough to fun dthose sort of things. He is from the old school where you sank every penny into the work and and just truested God for the rest. He's now in poor health and he and his wife struggle to get by. THAT is who I will give to.

We have missionaries in INdis that are out of our church. They need support to stay over there. That is who I will give to.

I have a brother who just lost his house and he, my neice who lives with him and her infant son are on the verge of homelessness. THAT is who I will give to.

We have multiple seniors in church who just don't always have enough money to get by even with the Government assistance they recieve. They will go hungry without help. That is who I will give to.

These are the types that often go without and end up starving b/c so many people never give them a second thought. You just keep thinking "oh they have Feeral programs. They have food pantry's. They have family that will help". So you never give them a thought and they do without.

You want to say i am withut compassion b/c I'm not jumping on the "lets all help Haiti" bandwagon? Ok. You're free to do so. My compassion is very much alive and well. I just choose to take care of my own instead of those in another country. I am constantly giving $25 to $50 everytime I hear of some family in the church being in need. INcluding black families (I felt I should maybe point that out since at least two of you have been so classless as to make veiled racism accusations).

Give all you want. If it clears your conscience and makes you feel warm and fuzzy then go for it. But I hope you also remember that CNN and MSNBC aren't running 24/7 coverage of the people who are probably around you everyday that need help too but go unnoticed.

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Good Job. Those in Haiti do have everyone to give to them... But those that you speak of have very few which give to them.

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What, you think nobody else also gives to domestic needs?

Our conscience? What about it? Do you know something about our consciences that we don't? And isn't there a better way (*cough*) of "clearing" it?

Look, there is nothing wrong with giving in whatever way you feel moved to give. Nothing wrong with giving to need X but not to need Y. Nobody can give to every worthy cause! But why talk about this particular cause as if it's way less worthy than others? Let everyone decide for themselves.

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I read it....all.

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I read it too. The measure of a "desperate need" in completely in the eye of the beholder. The old minister in my church who knows he can't afford food and meds both is in just as desperate a situation as the haitian under a pile of rubble. They both are in life threatening situations.

Fox/CNN/MSNBC isn't setup outside the mans house telling us about how bad his situation is though so we don't all get emotional and throw money at him.

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I received this email today - maybe you should pray it Niteman.

Lord, I just want to say THANK YOU, because this morning I woke up and knew where my children were. Because this morning my home was still standing, because this morning I am not crying because my husband, my child, my brother or sister needs to be buried out from underneath a pile of concrete, because this morning I was able to drink a glass of water, because this morning I was able to turn on the light, because this morning I was able to take a shower, because this morning I was not planning a funeral, but most of all I thank you this morning because I still have life and a voice to cry out for the people of Haiti.

Lord I cry out to you, the one that makes the impossible, possible, the one that turns darkness in to light, I cry out that you give those mothers strength, that you give them peace that surpasses all understanding, that you may open the streets so that help can come, that you may provide doctors, nurses, food, water, and all that they need in a blink of an eye. For all those that have lost family members, give them peace, give them hope, and give them courage to continue to go on!

Protect the children and shield them with your power. I pray all this in the name of Jesus, AMEN!!!

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excellent idea, yeah

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Who says I haven't prayed for the people going through this in Haiti? I have just said I will not send them one penny as long as our own country is full of people going hungry and homeless.

When tens of millions of people here start shooting $10 donations to help the starving and homeless here then maybe I will be more open to sending money to help foreign countries when the hype machine gets moving like it is for Haiti.

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Sigh.