Originally Posted by n david (Post 870724)

Of those 60%, how many voted for the clown in the first place.

It's like Bill Clinton all over again. Early the first term, people regretted voting for him but somehow he still managed to win the election and get a second term in office.

I doubt this will happen, but the similarities are there...

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 870725)

Bill Clinton won his second term because of his opponent, Bob Dole, wasn't exactly inspirational. Come to think of it, this is how BHO won as well -his (call me "Mr Moderate") opponent, or lack thereof.

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 870745)

Clinton won both because of a strong 3rd party guy. period.

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 870746)

H Ross did steal a few more points from Bush SR and Bob Dole then he did Clinton, but I still lay most of the blame on the republican ("Mr Moderate!") candidates being completely and utterly uninspirational to the voters. The only ones who voted FOR them were actually voting against Bill.

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 870748)

The Republican party has lost it's bearing and ceases to stand for what used to matter to the party.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 870761)

Agreed! I'm very disappointed that Sarah Palin would campaign for John McCain. She is not going "rouge" on that choice. Facebook is lit up with indignation! :thumbsup

I haven't heard her comments as to the reason why she would choose to support him and maybe she feels she has good reason. But, it's not looking good for the party, IMO.

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 870772)

You have GOT to be kidding me! :rolleyes2

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 870748)

The Republican party has lost it's bearing and ceases to stand for what used to matter to the party.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 870773)

Right. I voted for them because I, initially, liked Sarah and, of course, didn't want Obama to win. Actually, I believe McCain has an 85-88% conservative voting record. That might be good enough for her. I'd have to hear her explanation.

But, I'm with the callers on Obama - Resign!!!

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 870775)

The republicans have 1 more chance in 2010. if they don't go in and cut spending massively, they are done.

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 870776)

McCain will not win over Obama, IMO, even if Obama continues on his route of zero-actual-change-is-comin'!

And I thought she had all kinds of conflict with the McCain camp?

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 870777)

I was encouraged that we would make a good showing and make a difference this November until I saw McCain stumping for Evan Bayh in Indiana. McCain is publicly saying that he is against Mike Pence running against him and Mike Pence has an excellent conservative record - no flip-flops. So, now I don't know how it will go. I'm very disappointed.

If McCain steps in the way of Mike getting that seat, he is in effect saying - I don't want him running for President. That was a bold move, IMO. That's establishment stuff right there. I am very disappointed!

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 870761)

Agreed! I'm very disappointed that Sarah Palin would campaign for John McCain. She is not going "rouge" on that choice. Facebook is lit up with indignation! :thumbsup

I haven't heard her comments as to the reason why she would choose to support him and maybe she feels she has good reason. But, it's not looking good for the party, IMO.

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 870784)

McCain represents the Bob Dole establisment wing of the party that has been soundly rejected. That is the thing that will end the republican party.

McCain has a fight on his hands in AZ. the conservatives accross the country are up in arms. done be suprised if we have a "retirement" there.

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 870784)

McCain represents the Bob Dole establisment wing of the party that has been soundly rejected. That is the thing that will end the republican party.

McCain has a fight on his hands in AZ. the conservatives accross the country are up in arms. done be suprised if we have a "retirement" there.

Originally Posted by n david (Post 870785)

Really? Why would anyone wonder or be upset with her campaigning for McCain. He's the one who is responsible for her being where she is today. Had McCain not taken a chance and selected her as VP, she's still be Gov sitting up in Alaska instead of jet-setting around the world and being a paid FoxNews contributor.

Simply put, Sarah Palin owes McCain. Big time.

About the McCain campaign. Not a big McCain fan, but JD's kind of out there IMO. More than likely I'll not vote for either one. It depends a lot on both of their campaigns. JD has to do more than just be against McCain and BHO. I want to know what he wants to do to help the economy, etc. I'm not interested in his views of BHO's birth record or such. It will be difficult to beat McCain already, but it will be impossible if JD doesn't give a reason to vote for him over McCain.

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 870788)

be interesting to see if mccain can survive, i wouldnt vote for him without sarah, lol

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 870790)

No, David. He owes her "big time". He wouldn't have gotten as far as he did in the campaign without her.

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 870791)

agree with you po , no doubt, lol

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 870792)

I would have voted for anyone but Obama. Right?! LOL!

Originally Posted by n david (Post 870795)

Surely ye jest. She was a nobody before he selected her. He already had the Republican nomination. He didn't need her for that, it was done already.

IMO he lost a lot of indie votes because of Palin. She was a political nobody, a novice.

I know where your bias is, but come on. Be honest. She would still be in the sticks if it weren't for John McCain.

And for that, I'll blame him and hold it against him forever! :lol

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 870797)

i would vote for her today po, yeah

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 870801)

cant do any worse than now, huh

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 870798)

What difference would it make if she was in the sticks or not? He wouldn't have gotten a mile down the road without her and you know it. She "energized" the base. That is McCain's own words.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 870778)

I was talking about McCain trying to keep his Senate seat in AZ. That is what she is campaigning for. I don't know her reasoning behind this.

And, yes, she did have some conflict in the McCain camp, but the story remains the same - the problems were not between Sarah and John.

So, there is some loyalty there.

Originally Posted by n david (Post 870804)

We won't know that. He didn't select her until he won the Republican nomination and right before the convention. He did that without Palin. He beat Huck and Rom...without Palin. Sure she came out and energized the convention and base, but she alienated everyone else that would've voted for McCain, including most indie votes.

Originally Posted by DividedThigh (Post 870805)

huh, sounds suspiciously like a palin hater, which equals not a conservative, lol

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 870810)

oic, I thought you meant for the next Pres! I really need to watch the news. LOL!!!!!

*out of the loop*

Plenty of time on my hands right now, I'm sure I'll catch up today. *in bed with an over-zealous-mommy back injury* :foottap

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 870812)

No offense to Huckabee, but he's a goober. Do you think that Mitt's Mormon background was a big concern or hyped concern?

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 870814)

Man, I hope your back feels better! I don't like being in bed!