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StillStanding 02-11-2010 07:49 AM

Square Dancing at Church??
 
I was shocked to see a Square Dance event being promoted in our Sunday bulletin. I have mixed emotions about this, but it is for a good cause! :D

Square Dance for Missions!

Digging4Truth 02-11-2010 07:51 AM

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Well I don't think I have mixed feelings at all. LOL

I would be flabbergasted.

What are they thinking?

ILG 02-11-2010 07:59 AM

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Whatever works! ;)

John Atkinson 02-11-2010 08:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 876419)
Well I don't think I have mixed feelings at all. LOL

I would be flabbergasted.

What are they thinking?

I would think it would fit right in at "Cowboy" church.

I can't wait to go Home to Marble Falls so I can visit this assembly....

http://www.texascowboychurch.com/

I am trying to fit "power in the Blood" and "The Old Gospel Ship" into square dance format. Not seeing it...

shag 02-11-2010 09:00 AM

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At church?... we are the church. Im not too familiar with sqare dancing, except that I think I have seen women wear big poofy skirts, and men dress like cowboys.
Is square dancing a weight or sin to that would beset us to participate in? I would think it would depend on what all/how it takes place, if it has any wrong(sin) in it.

TJJJ 02-11-2010 09:02 AM

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The mormons been square dancing in their churches for a long time. You might want to check on attending one of their services....... I'm sure you would be welcome....

John Atkinson 02-11-2010 09:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shag (Post 876441)
At church?... we are the church. Im not too familiar with sqare dancing, except that I think I have seen women wear big poofy skirts, and men dress like cowboys.
Is square dancing a weight or sin to that would beset us to participate in? I would think it would depend on what all/how it takes place, if it has any wrong(sin) in it.

Wrong or sin? No, I doubt it. Weird? Yes. Definitely.

shag 02-11-2010 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by John Atkinson (Post 876451)
Wrong or sin? No, I doubt it. Weird? Yes. Definitely.

LOL, Yep, I can buy that..
takes all kinds...

Digging4Truth 02-11-2010 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by John Atkinson (Post 876451)
Wrong or sin? No, I doubt it. Weird? Yes. Definitely.

Well.. the concept, IMO, of weight or sin is that there are things that are wrong and then there are things that, while not wrong, are unwise.

To me this is completely unwise and is opening a door for people that the church just has no business whatsoever introducing people to or furthering their familiarity with.

Baron1710 02-11-2010 09:32 AM

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Not into Square dancing myself but I have no issue with it. We are having a couples only (as in married couples) Valentines Day dance at our church.

Digging4Truth 02-11-2010 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 876464)
Not into Square dancing myself but I have no issue with it. We are having a couples only (as in married couples) Valentines Day dance at our church.

Wow...

I thought I was a pretty progressive fellow but this thread has been an eye opener.

Aquila 02-11-2010 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by John Atkinson (Post 876451)
Wrong or sin? No, I doubt it. Weird? Yes. Definitely.

Fully agree. I hope they have fun. lol

RandyWayne 02-11-2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 876459)
Well.. the concept, IMO, of weight or sin is that there are things that are wrong and then there are things that, while not wrong, are unwise.

To me this is completely unwise and is opening a door for people that the church just has no business whatsoever introducing people to or furthering their familiarity with.

Well, either your facing a situation you do now wish to acknowledge, or you are not aware of the caliber of disaster indicated by having a square dance in our church!

Wellllllllllll, ya got trouble my friend!

RandyWayne 02-11-2010 10:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 876464)
Not into Square dancing myself but I have no issue with it. We are having a couples only (as in married couples) Valentines Day dance at our church.

Honestly, I don't see it as a problem at all for even NON married couples. What is wrong with having something for couples period?

I do think having a square dance is a little silly.... Why not a real dance, like your classic waltz or swing?

Digging4Truth 02-11-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 876479)
Well, either your facing a situation you do now wish to acknowledge, or you are not aware of the caliber of disaster indicated by having a square dance in our church!

Wellllllllllll, ya got trouble my friend!

I don't understand the statement.

I feel that I am aware of the caliber of disaster this is.

It seems no one else is.

Where's Epley when I need him. :)

Sherri 02-11-2010 11:42 AM

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Well, it's a little over the top to me, but I'm old fashioned that way. Ha!

We don't have dancing in our church, even at wedding receptions. If they want to dance, they have to have the reception offsite.

It's not that I think dancing in itself is a sin (between married couples especially), but if you allow it at weddings, then you have to allow it at teenager birthday parties when they use the church, and it can just lead to some stuff we don't want here.

That's just our policy - not saying it's for everyone!!

Digging4Truth 02-11-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 876514)
Well, it's a little over the top to me, but I'm old fashioned that way. Ha!

We don't have dancing in our church, even at wedding receptions. If they want to dance, they have to have the reception offsite.

It's not that I think dancing in itself is a sin (between married couples especially), but if you allow it at weddings, then you have to allow it at teenager birthday parties when they rent the church, and it can just lead to some stuff we don't want here.

That's just our policy - not saying it's for everyone!!

Sounds like wisdom.

snicker1986 02-11-2010 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 876484)
I don't understand the statement.

I feel that I am aware of the caliber of disaster this is.

It seems no one else is.

Where's Epley when I need him. :)


The musical "The Music Man"....only it was a pool table being discussed in the song

pelathais 02-11-2010 12:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by John Atkinson (Post 876423)
I would think it would fit right in at "Cowboy" church.

I can't wait to go Home to Marble Falls so I can visit this assembly....

http://www.texascowboychurch.com/

I am trying to fit "power in the Blood" and "The Old Gospel Ship" into square dance format. Not seeing it...

"I'm gonna take a trip, In that good ole Gospel Ship!"

Yeah, I can see that one... need some good fiddle music though.

pelathais 02-11-2010 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 876469)
Wow...

I thought I was a pretty progressive fellow but this thread has been an eye opener.

The event isn't planned for the sanctuary as part of a worship service. It's in a multi-use hall.

Sherri 02-11-2010 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother David (Post 876534)
The event isn't planned for the sanctuary as part of a worship service. It's in a multi-use hall.

I don't believe alcohol or smoking will send someone to hell either, but I don't want it going on in the church fellowship hall.

StillStanding 02-11-2010 01:23 PM

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Our previous pastor, L.H. Hardwick, would never allow any type of dancing associated with the church. I guess that policy has changed! What do they say now to couples who may want dancing at their wedding reception at the church? Only square dancing?

Sherri 02-11-2010 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway (Post 876562)
Our previous pastor, L.H. Hardwick, would never allow any type of dancing associated with the church. I guess that policy has changed! What do they say now to couples who may want dancing at their wedding reception at the church? Only square dancing?

I never thought it was allowed there in the past. But they have moved on, so I guess things always change.

RandyWayne 02-11-2010 02:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway (Post 876562)
Our previous pastor, L.H. Hardwick, would never allow any type of dancing associated with the church. I guess that policy has changed! What do they say now to couples who may want dancing at their wedding reception at the church? Only square dancing?

I can understand a blanket policy about not having it at the church.... Which is why couples need to NOT have their receptions at their church. Believe me, many tried to talk us into having our at theirs.

*AQuietPlace* 02-11-2010 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 876535)
I don't believe alcohol or smoking will send someone to hell either, but I don't want it going on in the church fellowship hall.

You stiff-necked conservative!

:D

Sherri 02-11-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 876603)
You stiff-necked conservative!

:D

Yep, that's me. The Ultra Con of AFF!

Hoovie 02-11-2010 05:33 PM

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In church? Nah. I really don't care much for that even if it's the new "praise dancing" stuff.

However, at other events, such as weddings I can't imagine what could possibly be wrong with it - unless there are vulgar or immoral acts being simulated.

Sherri 02-11-2010 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 876675)
In church? Nah. I really don't care much for that even if it's the new "praise dancing" stuff.

However, at other events, such as weddings I can't imagine what could possibly be wrong with it - unless there are vulgar or immoral acts being simulated.

We seriously considered the idea of dancing at weddings, and just knew that if we allowed that - then others would want to have dancing at other events/parties. Sometimes it leads to some really vulgar stuff or music that we wouldn't want played at church. So it's just easier to stay away from all of it and have a blanket rule of no dancing on the church property.

We do have dancing in church services though - if it's for Jesus, it's ok.:thumbsup

shag 02-11-2010 06:29 PM

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I had a great time watching my 13 yr. old son contra dance this past summer. There was about 25 people dancing, only about 5 males, from young to old, and the rest were ladies, mostly younger. My son had a great time, and I had even more fun watching those girls swing him around from one to the next.... It was a blast... He was a little bit shy, so that made it better.

The setting was at a home school gathering on a farm out in the country. There were many activities there. The dance setting was in a very nicely built brusharbor where we had a good church service, then the church:D moved the hay bales (pews) out of the way, 2 lines were made, and the dancing began. One person leading/telling the others what to do next...grab yur partner...do si do kinda stuff. I videod the whole thing, my son had grinned from ear to ear thru it all, and was exhausted by the end.


I'd say out of the approximate 150-175 attendees, most if not close to all, were God fearing Christian families.

Contra dancing cant be too far from square dancing can it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsvBiTfY7lI

Hoovie 02-11-2010 07:17 PM

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Thats very similar to square dancing Shag. We used to square dance at Mennonite singing hoedowns.

Jermyn Davidson 02-11-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 876421)
Whatever works! ;)

I have to disagree.

This event for a good cause is promoting sin-- that is if Hip-Hop, Techno, Heavy metal and all of thier entrappings are considered sin.


Some have criticized the strong stance that some take against sports, but then play golf.

Square dancing opens this church up to the same criticisms.

pelathais 02-11-2010 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 876535)
I don't believe alcohol or smoking will send someone to hell either, but I don't want it going on in the church fellowship hall.

Do you compare square dancing with alcohol and tabacco use?

For me, square dancing is just silly, but to each his own I guess - at least on this one. Most places I know of - if you want an EMPTY hall just advertise a square dancing event. LOL.

pelathais 02-12-2010 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 876696)
Thats very similar to square dancing Shag. We used to square dance at Mennonite singing hoedowns.

Sinner!

One can see from that video that this is aerobic intensive. Maybe it's a good thing at times. Michelle Obama may be promoting just this sort of dancing in the future as part of her childhood obesity thing.

pelathais 02-12-2010 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 876713)
I have to disagree.

This event for a good cause is promoting sin-- that is if Hip-Hop, Techno, Heavy metal and all of thier entrappings are considered sin.


Some have criticized the strong stance that some take against sports, but then play golf.

Square dancing opens this church up to the same criticisms.

Running and jogging is "sport." Even hiking in the outdoors is "sport." Climbing, skiing, weight lifting, any type of "cardio workout" - they're all sports. Playing outright sporting games is the end result of all this compromise?

Is it best just to git on down to the Golden Corral and load up on the biscuits and gravy to avoid this slippery slope altogether?

John Atkinson 02-12-2010 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother David (Post 876753)
Running and jogging is "sport." Even hiking in the outdoors is "sport." Climbing, skiing, weight lifting, any type of "cardio workout" - they're all sports. Playing outright sporting games is the end result of all this compromise?

Is it best just to git on down to the Golden Corral and load up on the biscuits and gravy to avoid this slippery slope altogether?

Yeppers, wouldn't want things like biblical principles and convictions and of course downright bible mandate to dictate what we do, where we go and what we wear while doing it and going there.

Nor would we want to run the risk of doing something fun, because God hates fun.

Hiking and outdoors are my sins of choice. Going to sin for 5 miles tomorrow am at Bluff Point in Groton. It'll be cold, but people put up with a lot to follow thier addictions. :D

Of course I could be "holy" and hit the all u can eat breakfast buffet at the Ramada, nothing like a couple of bacon and cheese omelets, big pile of home fries, 3 slices of ham and biscuits and sausage gravy followed by a nice long nap to sleep it all off. That'll sanctify the day fer sure.

Truthseeker 02-12-2010 06:44 AM

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Worldly.

StillStanding 02-12-2010 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 876781)
Worldly.

Well......I don't know if I would go that far, but I'm old school, so I feel a little uncomfortable about it because of how I was raised! I see little difference between square dancing and say..mixed team volleyball or softball.

I just think that allowing square dancing requires you to draw a line of what kind of dancing is allowed. To me, the best choice is to disallow any dancing whatsoever. But hey..that's just my opinion! :)

misspresley 02-12-2010 06:59 AM

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Square dancing is in a league of its own (and I'm not a fan, really) but it seems harmless enough. You have to be in pretty good physical shape to participate very long and I remember learning the basics in elementary school as part of the music program. My opinion is leave it off church property - just to avoid confusion.

Sherri 02-12-2010 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by misspresley (Post 876785)
Square dancing is in a league of its own (and I'm not a fan, really) but it seems harmless enough. You have to be in pretty good physical shape to participate very long and I remember learning the basics in elementary school as part of the music program. My opinion is leave it off church property - just to avoid confusion.

I agree! I'm not opposed to square dancing - in fact, I think it would be great exercise (though corny). When I was a kid, I was always the one who had to sit out in P.E. and play the record player because I wasn't allowed to square dance. I think that's ridiculous.

But......I don't want it at church just because of the doors it would open.

rgcraig 02-12-2010 07:06 AM

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I had to sit out square dancing in the fifth grade because of my religious beliefs (or my parents), so I was the record changer.


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