It's Time To Get Over It
 

It’s time to get over it and pray through this situation. Aren’t you people adults? So stop acting like a child who wants sympathy, and a pat on the back, and you want someone to tell you that it’s ok. You know it‘s not ok not to have a church. You say you’ve been hurt by your pastor, and pulled out of the UPC, or all church attendance anywhere. You hate all pastors everywhere because they are all liars you say. And now you can’t trust anyone else to pastor you, so find a church that teaches truth. All Pastors are not cut from the same mold. You need a church and you need a pastor. So stop being so childish and grow up. We can’t hold grudges folks. It’s time to get over whatever the problem is. After all, aren’t you people adults? You sound so childish by starting all these silly threads demeaning the UPC and all Pastors too. It’s time to get over it and Get In A Church Somewhere.

It’s OK with most people if your boss dictates what we should wear. I know plenty who dress in uniform in order to hold a job, but He’s paying us to do this. That makes all the difference. It’s ok if our Boss expects us to report to work on time, and follow some form of standard. And we tolerate it if he gets on our case occasionally, after all he pays our salary, and that makes all difference in the world. We are willing to do lots of things we may not like in order to hold a job, but you will not allow our Pastor to lead you to Jesus.

The target is now on you.

Are you venting?

I think you've missed the point....it is the suggestion that wearing a mustache or beard or wearing short sleeves is sin....it's not about rebelling against dress codes.

this will be fun to watch.... keep your responses objective folks....

Some people are so hurt that they cannot get over it.Have you ever considered that? I know church people who have been through so much
and I always say that somebody is going to be sorry come judgement day
for having hurt one of Jesus's little ones.

I'm over it and prayed through the situation.

Granted, it brought about nothing that you posted here -- but thanks for your concern, love, and empathy. Thanks for pointing out that which you feel is necessary for our salvation, I truly respect and honor the motive behind your post and I'll kindly respectfully disagree without pretense, anger, or frustration.

May God richly bless you and yours as you journey in this path.

I understand this completely. Scars are always a reminder. BUt even though we may never forget we still have to forgive. Right?

Some are victims of their own hurt and project that to others. They like being hurt it is their badge if honor and an excuse for not doing what they know they should do.

I think people can always get over it in some measure. What I don't like is people demanding that folks get over things on THEIR timetable because they don't want to hear about it.

Coop watching: "The Hot Coffee Ms. Comedy Hour" :tvhappy She's Funny!

Laughter is a medicine; I feel the healing all ready!

While I admit hurt was a catalyst for my life as of now -- I'm no longer hurt. I have pondered the actions of the past and chalk it up to misplace, misuse, and misinterpreted love and care. It was nothing less.

I honestly believe that those who hurt, do so accidentally without a motive of hurt. In that case, I can only believe that they truly felt that they were doing what is right in their own eyes.

My hurt has waned to wisdom. I thank God everyday that he kept me through the hurt and, in fact, I thank Him for where the struggle by fire brought me. As I'm writing this, I realize something. I should be thankful to those who did the hurting -- I wouldn't be where God has brought me to without them.

So because of those "some" are we to lose focus from the root of the pain that Trouvere talks about?

and some people just need an excuse for their lack of committment...

to a pastor or a church....

The bible is very clear about church attendance, blame the preacher all you want but you should be actively looking for a new church home if you cant submit to the one you currently have or had.....To just not go, well, that's on you and it's wrong.......it's far more than a pastor asking his saints to not wear a moustache or short sleeves on the platform.

We all draw our lines in the sand at different points, who cares if some are more conservative than others? Is it REALLY that big of a deal?? You are a grown person, if you dont agree, the pastor isnt going to whip you or hang you from the highest tree at sunset, you just probably wont be on the platform. So?? And if the pastor is some kind of tyrant, well find another one...but get off your butt and LOOK for one!. Stop sitting back and making excuses.

Wonder how long someone would stay employed at McDonalds if they refused to wear that USELESS visor?

I disagree to a certain extent. Those that become right in their own eyes, Dictators I like to call them, DO NOT do things accidentally without a motive of hurt. They are ready and willing to write someone off as a swine that doesn't deserve the pearl. True forgiveness is unknown to them.

While I agree, I do not wish to chalk up every hurt that is done in the name of dictatorship. I can only speak what has happened in my life.

you are right, about some people. But I've heard this anti-UPC song and dance from some regulars for 3 years...

there's no intention of getting on with their life - they just want to vent.

Others, in that same period of time have made choices to move on - and that's ok for them, it's what they chose to do...are they sitting back lamenting about it and bashing the organization they chose to leave? No they arent, they are getting on with their life b/c they made a choice they were comfortable with...

some folks just want attention and justification for inactivity.

I would ask:

What dictates "church"? What is a "pastor"? What is "ministry"?

I heard song years ago this thread reminds me of:
'I've been walked on and stepped on so many times and I hate to admit it but the last footprint was mine."

Mcdonalds isn't a very good example IMO. Even they continuosly change the uniform. They even allow shorts on hot days. IMagine that. To me they want there uniform to look as current as possible. JMO

I can agree with this. I came to a conclusion a few years back that if I really wanted to be free from the UPC, every decision I made could not be influenced by the UPC. And I wonder if most who leave the UPC are allowing the UPC to control them, even if they proclaim it's lack of control. When you are doing everything you do in order to be anti-UPC, the UPC is still a major influence in your life -- whether you like it or not.

Man... this forum would be boring without all the hurt & pain... :D

You made me laugh out loud, elder.

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Woe, despair and agony on me......:rockband

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Help me I've fallen and I can't get up!!!!


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In other words... they're still not over it, regardless of how much they scream that they are.

They have not moved on...

*kicks Randy while he's down*

Two hippies in a sleeping bag?

I love this scripture..

1 Samuel 30:5-7 (King James Version)
6 And David was greatly distressed; for the people spake of stoning him, because the soul of all the people was grieved, every man for his sons and for his daughters: but David encouraged himself in the LORD his God.

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Kissing...You left that out Bro. Epley...:D

Maybe I've missed another thread and I don't know if this thread is a piggyback off of another one....but where has anyone said they don't attend a church because of some particular church's standards...I guess I am befuddled by the "get off your butt" comment as I did not notice anyone sitting. :tvhappy

Exactly. When people truly move on, the UPC becomes an era in their life that they either loved or hated. It no longer influences their life today negatively nor positively.

Its like this. You live next door to a family that has a friendly looking dog that is as viscious as a wolverine with a snake bite on his butt.

You make several attempts at being friendly, the dog looks so harmless. But every time you go to try and pet the dog, or if your ball goes over the fence, the dog wants to eat you. The dog for some reason even gets along ok with the kids on the other side of their yard but not you.

Finally after dressing your wounds and they heal, your scars remind you not to approach the fence again. You can still say...nice doggie, and you realize why he is there (to protect the house), but never again will you try to make friend with it. You stay on your side of the fence and he stays on his.

Its not personal, its just the way things have to be sometimes.

What if there are no other churches around you? I know of an area of the country (which shall remain nameless) that the UPCI churches are at least 1 1/2 hours away from each other. Not so easy to just go to another one. Then the pastor of the other one wants a letter from your old pastor. (What do you think that letter will say? Anything good probably not). There are no other Oneness churches around in this particular area that I am aware of, so what do those people do?

Get over it.

I would comment but I am too hurt.

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There is nothing to get over. Dog/fence/me Gotta love that fence...

Thats the way, the way, un-hunh uh-hunh I like it uh-hunh uh-hunh...thats the way, the way, un-hunh uh-hunh I like it uh-hunh uh-hunh. wooeee woooeee wooo woo woo woo woo... :slaphappy

Ouch! Keep the day job... :D

In my community there are leash laws. Also if a dog becomes a threat to a neighborhood its time to break out the "ole pistola".

What if that dog got loose and harmed or killed a child?