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NotforSale 02-24-2010 04:57 PM

Imagine no opposing opinion
 
Just imagine no opposing opinion.

Agreement was at every turn, and you always got a pat on the back for saying and doing the right thing.

Would tyrannts rule, or would the World be a better place?

Does opposition actually bring out the real truth, and is the argument necessary to validate reality?

BeenThinkin 02-24-2010 05:09 PM

Re: Imagine no opposing opinion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NotforSale (Post 880904)
Just imagine no opposing opinion.

Agreement was at every turn, and you always got a pat on the back for saying and doing the right thing.

Would tyrannts rule, or would the World be a better place?

Does opposition actually bring out the real truth, and is the argument necessary to validate reality?


Okay! What ever you think!:foottap

NotforSale 02-24-2010 05:14 PM

Re: Imagine no opposing opinion
 
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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin (Post 880905)
Okay! What ever you think!:foottap

:yourock

Just think, you're killing the drama...........

BeenThinkin 02-24-2010 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NotforSale (Post 880906)
:yourock

Just think, you're killing the drama...........


You're right! I agree! ...... But I bet you there will be someone on this forum that will come along and "Disagree!" Don't you agree?

John Atkinson 02-24-2010 05:39 PM

Re: Imagine no opposing opinion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NotforSale (Post 880904)
Just imagine no opposing opinion.

Agreement was at every turn, and you always got a pat on the back for saying and doing the right thing.

Would tyrannts rule, or would the World be a better place?

Does opposition actually bring out the real truth, and is the argument necessary to validate reality?

Reality is what it is. We neither form or change it by our opinions. Homogeneous opinions? Can't imagine that.

God didn't stamp out clones sworn to the seven laws of robotics, he gave us all individual minds... and to the really blessed among us he gave common sense.

I believe God HAS given us truth, and folks who wrestle against that do so to their own destruction. God's opinion is the only one that counts.

DAII 02-24-2010 05:47 PM

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Such a place exists ... it used to be called Just Preachers.
And AMF is looking their way.

berkeley 02-24-2010 06:01 PM

Re: Imagine no opposing opinion
 
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Originally Posted by DAII (Post 880913)
Such a place exists ... it used to be called Just Preachers.
And AMF is looking there way.

*ahem*

DAII 02-24-2010 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan (Post 880915)
*ahem*

What are you talking about, Berk??? :thumbsup

John Atkinson 02-24-2010 06:16 PM

Re: Imagine no opposing opinion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 880913)
Such a place exists ... it used to be called Just Preachers.
And AMF is looking there way.

I love you and even like you bro.

but you gotta end this OP grudge you got going. Just because somebody holds conservative standards doesn't make them a legalist, and just because some holds the tenets of Acts 2:38 as true and solid doesn't make them clueless morons, mindless traditionalists.

There are good men at Just Preachers, and some fine men of God in the AMF, why do you feel the need to ridicule them?

Ease up brother. I don't like the way somethings are in the movement, but ridicule and sarcasm doesn't do much but inflame folks. We don't need that man...

DAII 02-24-2010 06:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by John Atkinson (Post 880920)
I love you and even like you bro.

but you gotta end this OP grudge you got going. Just because somebody holds conservative standards doesn't make them a legalist, and just because some holds the tenets of Acts 2:38 as true and solid doesn't make them clueless morons, mindless traditionalists.

There are good men at Just Preachers, and some fine men of God in the AMF, why do you feel the need to ridicule them?

Ease up brother. I don't like the way somethings are in the movement, but ridicule and sarcasm doesn't do much but inflame folks. We don't need that man...

I love you and like you too, John .... even if you are an OP, Marble Falls transplant residing in the ungodly state of Connecticut, who can't interpret Acts 2:38 correctly and posts at masonic forums. But I won't hold that against you.

DAII 02-24-2010 06:51 PM

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Hey John? Didn't you ban me at GNC eons ago? You owe me.

berkeley 02-24-2010 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DAII (Post 880923)
I love you and like you too, John .... even if you are an OP, Marble Falls transplant residing in the ungodly state of Connecticut, who can't interpret Acts 2:38 correctly and posts at masonic forums. But I won't hold that against you.

They believe that they interpret it correctly. You beleive that you interpret it correctly. Both sides can find just as much as evidence as the other, that the counter position is wrong.
Maybe YOU are wrong. Ever consider that? Suppose that you are displaying as much nastiness as the side that you oppose...

disclaimer: nastiness comes from both sides of the fence. not everyone on either side of the fence has a bad spirit.

TroubleMaker 02-24-2010 07:18 PM

Re: Imagine no opposing opinion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NotforSale (Post 880904)
Just imagine no opposing opinion.

Agreement was at every turn, and you always got a pat on the back for saying and doing the right thing.

Would tyrannts rule, or would the World be a better place?

Does opposition actually bring out the real truth, and is the argument necessary to validate reality?



Then everyone would agree with me. I'd kinda like that!

Sister Alvear 02-24-2010 07:24 PM

Re: Imagine no opposing opinion
 
We have to sometimes just let go and forget ...that often makes us better persons...

We all get done wrong...It is hpw we react under pressure that shows if the jewel is inside us....

I think we all have our right to opinions and how we see the Bible but we should not mistreat those that see differently than we do...I see to much hate...we need to be baptized with love...

I can be with and around those that see differently than I do however I do not want to kill them...I hope that after I am gone they will remember me with a sweet feeling even though we were different.

Cindy 02-24-2010 07:37 PM

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I am very agreeable, but have no problem disagreeing with some people, who shall remain nameless.

In answer to the thread starter. I think disagreement sometimes does bring about good relationships with others. And sometimes I learn more from people that disagree with me.

Cindy 02-24-2010 07:40 PM

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However, I only agree with NotForSale, Sister Alvear, BeenThinkin, John Atkinson, Daniel, TroubleMaker, and Berk on this thread. :D

berkeley 02-25-2010 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 880939)
However, I only agree with NotForSale, Sister Alvear, BeenThinkin, John Atkinson, Daniel, TroubleMaker, and Berk on this thread. :D

??? :spit ???

John Atkinson 02-25-2010 06:07 AM

Re: Imagine no opposing opinion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 880923)
I love you and like you too, John .... even if you are an OP, Marble Falls transplant residing in the ungodly state of Connecticut, who can't interpret Acts 2:38 correctly and posts at masonic forums. But I won't hold that against you.

LOL. Actually I am not a member of either, I doubt I would last long. Despite my 3 steppiness I am no fan of institutionlized religion or legislated modesty, especially when said modesty is defined by the preacher-of-the-moment's whims and personal preferences, or worse yet great-grandaddy's whims and personal preferences.

But I know some folks who are and they are fine people and good Christians.

StillStanding 02-25-2010 06:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by John Atkinson (Post 880920)
I love you and even like you bro.

but you gotta end this OP grudge you got going. Just because somebody holds conservative standards doesn't make them a legalist, and just because some holds the tenets of Acts 2:38 as true and solid doesn't make them clueless morons, mindless traditionalists.

There are good men at Just Preachers, and some fine men of God in the AMF, why do you feel the need to ridicule them?

Ease up brother. I don't like the way somethings are in the movement, but ridicule and sarcasm doesn't do much but inflame folks. We don't need that man...

:thumbsup A very kind plea!

Sherri 02-25-2010 06:20 AM

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If two people think exactly alike, one of them is unnecessary.

John Atkinson 02-25-2010 06:32 AM

Re: Imagine no opposing opinion
 
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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 880977)
If two people think exactly alike, one of them is unnecessary.

If you and I were to think alike... that would be you :D

crakjak 02-25-2010 07:14 AM

Re: Imagine no opposing opinion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan (Post 880927)
They believe that they interpret it correctly. You beleive that you interpret it correctly. Both sides can find just as much as evidence as the other, that the counter position is wrong.
Maybe YOU are wrong. Ever consider that? Suppose that you are displaying as much nastiness as the side that you oppose...

disclaimer: nastiness comes from both sides of the fence. not everyone on either side of the fence has a bad spirit.

Just maybe God allowed diversity on purpose, and the true test of truth is HOW we love and treat one another rather than getting some ideology perfectly correct??? Just Thinking!!

Wonder how we are doing with that????

crakjak 02-25-2010 07:20 AM

Re: Imagine no opposing opinion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 880933)
We have to sometimes just let go and forget ...that often makes us better persons...

We all get done wrong...It is hpw we react under pressure that shows if the jewel is inside us....

I think we all have our right to opinions and how we see the Bible but we should not mistreat those that see differently than we do...I see to much hate...we need to be baptized with love...

I can be with and around those that see differently than I do however I do not want to kill them...I hope that after I am gone they will remember me with a sweet feeling even though we were different.

When your focus is the harvest, the sweetness of Jesus just seeps thru, you have been equipped, my dear sister for the harvest! The ministry of reconciliation of sinners to our loving heavenly Father. The drippings of the love that brought us the cross!!

John Atkinson 02-25-2010 07:28 AM

Re: Imagine no opposing opinion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 880991)
Just maybe God allowed diversity on purpose, and the true test of truth is HOW we love and treat one another rather than getting some ideology perfectly correct??? Just Thinking!!

Wonder how we are doing with that????

Maybe not as bad as we sometimes think. I mean look at AFF, we mostly all get on well despite difference, in cases big differences in ideology. Very rarely do I ever see anyone outright hateful here.

MrsMcD 02-25-2010 07:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 880977)
If two people think exactly alike, one of them is unnecessary.

LOL - true:thumbsup

RandyWayne 02-25-2010 09:00 AM

Re: Imagine no opposing opinion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NotforSale (Post 880904)
Just imagine no opposing opinion.

Agreement was at every turn, and you always got a pat on the back for saying and doing the right thing.

Would tyrannts rule, or would the World be a better place?

Does opposition actually bring out the real truth, and is the argument necessary to validate reality?

It's easy if you try.

NotforSale 02-25-2010 10:36 AM

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Maybe an example would clarify my real point.

I say, "The Earth is the Center of the Universe". Everyone agrees with me. No one disagrees with me. Everyone believes what I'm saying.....Except for one. A man named Gallileo.

Even the Church lables this man a Heretic, going against not only the teachings of Science, but against Scripture.

He refuses to buckle under the pressure and argues the point. He's placed under house arrest for the rest of his life, and forced to recant his ideas.

Well, we all know, his findings and ideas proved to be true and Gallileo has been deemed one of the greatest scientists of all time, causing the birth of modern science.

What if Gallileo made the choice to "Obey" those who oppossed him?

RandyWayne 02-25-2010 11:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NotforSale (Post 881063)
Maybe an example would clarify my real point.

I say, "The Earth is the Center of the Universe". Everyone agrees with me. No one disagrees with me. Everyone believes what I'm saying.....Except for one. A man named Gallileo.

Even the Church lables this man a Heretic, going against not only the teachings of Science, but against Scripture.

He refuses to buckle under the pressure and argues the point. He's placed under house arrest for the rest of his life, and forced to recant his ideas.

Well, we all know, his findings and ideas proved to be true and Gallileo has been deemed one of the greatest scientists of all time, causing the birth of modern science.

What if Gallileo made the choice to "Obey" those who oppossed him?

I am sure people told him "Either believe that the Earth is the center of the Universe, or you might as well throw the whole Bible away!"


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