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DAII 03-26-2010 01:22 PM

SKorean Navy Ship Sunk by N. Koreans?
 
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - Military officials say a South Korean navy ship has sunk off an island not far from North Korea.
An official with the Joint Chiefs of Staff in Seoul said early Saturday that the ship sank some four hours after it began taking on water. The official spoke on condition of anonymity, in line with department policy.

The official said at least 58 of the 104 crew members have been rescued. There was no immediate confirmation of casualties. A rescue operation was still under way.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

dizzyde 03-26-2010 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DAII (Post 891764)
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - Military officials say a South Korean navy ship has sunk off an island not far from North Korea.
An official with the Joint Chiefs of Staff in Seoul said early Saturday that the ship sank some four hours after it began taking on water. The official spoke on condition of anonymity, in line with department policy.

The official said at least 58 of the 104 crew members have been rescued. There was no immediate confirmation of casualties. A rescue operation was still under way.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

This doesn't surprise, North Korea scares me to death. I read this story yesterday, horrifying that this type of government is operating with ready access to nuclear and chemical weapons.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-s...Lq1LFB8GnQH8n&

Michael The Disciple 03-26-2010 01:41 PM

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Perhaps the times are a changin?

Michael The Disciple 03-26-2010 01:48 PM

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The USA fought a war against N. Korea and China 1950-1953. It ended in a draw. My thinking is we are less prepared than we were then and they are more prepared.

Praxeas 03-26-2010 01:59 PM

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I don't think China would support North Korea this time

Ron 03-26-2010 02:17 PM

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Don't believe everything you read, remember Gulf of Tonkin?

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2261

Michael The Disciple 03-26-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 891778)
I don't think China would support North Korea this time

I believe two hard line Communist nations would unite quickly. China declared war on us in 1950 because we got to close to their territory in combat operations. At least thats what they said then.

CC1 03-26-2010 05:02 PM

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I have read that the S Koreans are privately saying they don't think it was N. Korea. More likely some kind of accident. I sure hope so! That would be a huge provocation if N. Korea did do it.

pelathais 03-26-2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 891775)
Perhaps the times are a changin?

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 891776)
The USA fought a war against N. Korea and China 1950-1953. It ended in a draw. My thinking is we are less prepared than we were then and they are more prepared.

We weren't prepared at all back then. Entire rifle companies were sent to confront the N. Korean invasion and were lost - mowed down due to the fact that they were facing off with Communist tanks and artillery with just their M1 carbines.

When the territory was retaken later, the roads were found lined in places with the bodies of American soldiers who had obviously been taken prisoner. Their arms were tied behind their backs with barbed wire and they were all either shot in the head or bludgeoned to death to save the bullet.

When MacArthur executed the Inchon landing and took Seoul he outflanked the entire N. Korean army and sent them running back to the north. American forces drove them all the way across the Yalu River and into China and were ready to start mopping up. Then, one million Chinese "volunteers" crossed the border and drove the beleaguered Americans back to appropriately the exact line that exists today.

We weren't ready then. Not even close. We were lucky to have MacArthur and his amphibious skill to turn the tide. Then we had to fire him of course because he wanted to nuke the Chinese "volunteers" in order to save American lives.

pelathais 03-26-2010 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 891783)
Don't believe everything you read, remember Gulf of Tonkin?

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2261

Are you suggesting that the U.S. manufactured this incident just to give Obama justification for going to war against N. Korea?

Fact of the matter is: the North has launched raids and attacks against U.S. and S. Korean forces ever since 1950. Remember the Pueblo incident? Remember the unarmed Americans who were hacked to death by ax wielding North Korean soldiers?

Did the U.S. "manufacture" the N. Korean downing of a South Korean airliner in 1987?

Did the U.S. "manufacture" the N. Korean assassination attempt on President Park which left him wounded and his wife dead?

What about the N. Korean raid in Burma that left 4 S. Korean cabinet secretaries dead along with a number of other people?

I suppose Clinton faked North Korea's nuclear tests and all of the missile launches that over flew Japan and S. Korea? And the kidnappings of S. Koreans from Japan and other parts of the world?

You have to understand, FAIR (your link) is a far left advocacy group within the American political spectrum. The Gulf of Tonkin incident was controversial at the time and has remained so. However, Communist aggression against America and Allied nations during the Cold War was real. There was a real war going on and plenty of harm was done by all parties and even by those who were ostensibly "non-aligned."

Michael The Disciple 03-26-2010 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 891817)
We weren't prepared at all back then. Entire rifle companies were sent to confront the N. Korean invasion and were lost - mowed down due to the fact that they were facing off with Communist tanks and artillery with just their M1 carbines.

When the territory was retaken later, the roads were found lined in places with the bodies of American soldiers who had obviously been taken prisoner. Their arms were tied behind their backs with barbed wire and they were all either shot in the head or bludgeoned to death to save the bullet.

When MacArthur executed the Inchon landing and took Seoul he outflanked the entire N. Korean army and sent them running back to the north. American forces drove them all the way across the Yalu River and into China and were ready to start mopping up. Then, one million Chinese "volunteers" crossed the border and drove the beleaguered Americans back to appropriately the exact line that exists today.

We weren't ready then. Not even close. We were lucky to have MacArthur and his amphibious skill to turn the tide. Then we had to fire him of course because he wanted to nuke the Chinese "volunteers" in order to save American lives.

We had nuclear weapons then. The Chinese and N Koreans had none. Now the Chinese have hundreds of them and the Koreans are beginning to stockpile.

The mindset is also very different. Then many Americans loved their country and were ready and willing to die for it. A lot has changed since then. Yes we are fighting two wars right now but neither of them together are causing near as many casualties as Korea.

Our wars now will look small compared to a war like we are discussing here. I say leave Iraq and Afghanistan. All we are doing there is propping up Islamic antichrist governments. Not one more American should die for them.

Strategically speaking these wars will have given us training and insight for bigger wars but we need as a nation to regroup and begin to rethink our future with N.Korea, China, and Russia.

However spiritually my thinking is that YHWH may well use them as his battle axe in judgment against America. We shall see.

pelathais 03-26-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 891813)
I have read that the S Koreans are privately saying they don't think it was N. Korea. More likely some kind of accident. I sure hope so! That would be a huge provocation if N. Korea did do it.

Would this have been considered much of a provocation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Flight_858

What about the attempted assassination of your president that killed 4 members of the cabinet? http://www.britannica.com/facts/10/4...g-four-members

Or the attempted assassination of your President that left him wounded and his wife dead? http://www.veoh.com/browse/morelike/v1106234E3tfPYas

Nothing's gonna happen. It's just the North showing their displeasure over the recent U.S/South Korean joint military exercises - if it wasn't really an accident after all.

My guess is that they hit an old mine that may have been deliberately set "adrift" by the North. The "flock of birds" canard is just cover so that South Korean ultra-nationalists don't have an excuse to get too riled up.

When faced off in a "fair" shoot out, the South usually has out shot the North. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Battle_of_Yeonpyeong

pelathais 03-26-2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 891819)
We had nuclear weapons then. The Chinese and N Koreans had none. Now the Chinese have hundreds of them and the Koreans are beginning to stockpile.

The mindset is also very different. Then many Americans loved their country and were ready and willing to die for it. A lot has changed since then. Yes we are fighting two wars right now but neither of them together are causing near as many casualties as Korea.

Our wars now will look small compared to a war like we are discussing here. I say leave Iraq and Afghanistan. All we are doing there is propping up Islamic antichrist governments. Not one more American should die for them.

Before we got to Afghanistan there were dozens of bases used for the arming and training of Muslim terrorists to attack America. The attacks on 9/11/2001 were launched from those bases. We had to take that safe haven away from the terrorists.

The fact that safe havens remain in the adjacent "Tribal Territories" of Pakistan represents a further problem.

Iraq is a slightly different matter. Iran is the real problem. They have funded and have built up three proxy armies in the region that are actively fighting against Western targets while also brow beating the local populations into accepting militant fundamentalism that will only breed more jihadis.
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 891819)
Strategically speaking these wars will have given us training and insight for bigger wars but we need as a nation to regroup and begin to rethink our future with N.Korea, China, and Russia.

However spiritually my thinking is that YHWH may well use them as his battle axe in judgment against America. We shall see.

Strategically, we had nukes in 1950. Tactically however, we didn't have any as evidenced by MacArthur's failed attempt to deploy and use them. Ticky-tack point perhaps... but if you aren't really going to use them what's the point in saying you've got them? When the other guy calls your bluff - your boys are left standing out in the field without their most powerful weapons available.

(I'm not advocating nuclear war here. I'm just questioning the lines of reasoning behind saying America even has any tactical nuclear deterrent).

Also, on the battlefield we were grossly unprepared in 1950. We'd just spent the previous 5 years working very hard to disarm and get back to a "peace time" economy. American forces were cut to ribbons as they fell back on Pusan.

BroGary 03-26-2010 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 891783)
Don't believe everything you read, remember Gulf of Tonkin?

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2261

Yep, and also the average citizen is seemingly unaware of the global puppet show where the globalists are pulling the strings on both "sides".

Here are some interesting articles, the first two were written by an apostolic minister.

(quotes from the articles are below each link)

MIKHAIL GORBACHEV: From the PRESIDIUM ...to the PRESIDIO

The purpose of this article is to show you exactly who Mikhail Gorbachev is, and examine the enormous role he played in promoting the Socialist Globalist agenda in the West. In this process, you will see that the New World Order, and specifically, the Biblical Antichrist system is well on its way to subduing the earth.


Is the Devil in the New World Order?
Most people are not aware of the Luciferic connection.

In every presidential administration of this century, a substantial, if not majority of all members were linked to Luciferian inspired organizations. Most people seemingly do not know that politics and religion today have been carefully choreographed for centuries with an ultimate goal of world dominion in the mind of Satan and his schemers.


The West's Fatal Embrace of Communism

The US mass media (and most corporations) are controlled by the central banking cartel, i.e. the Rothschilds, Warburgs, Rockefellers etc. These are the same people who sponsored Communism.

The guiding principle behind world events is their plan to translate their monopoly over government credit into a world monopoly of power, business, culture and religion.

These bankers use a Hegelian dialectic to achieve their end. They created both Capitalism and Communism as thesis and antithesis. Their aim is a synthesis, combining the political and cultural tyranny of Communism with the appearance of Capitalist free markets.

In 1953, Ford Foundation President, H. Rowan Gaither told Congressional Investigator Norman Dodd that his instructions were to use "our grant-making power so to alter our life in the United States that we can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union."


Central Bankers Seek Totalitarian Power

The "War on Terror" is a ruse by central bankers to control every aspect of your life.

Reviewing "The Red Symphony" recently, I was shocked to read an insider's statement that the bankers are not content with infinite wealth, but want unlimited power.

"The Red Symphony" is a 1938 Stalinist Secret Police (NKVD) interrogation of Christian Rakovsky, a Soviet ambassador who was a close associate of Leon Trotsky, Rothschild's agent.

I introduced this explosive 50-page document to my readers two years ago. It strips the veil from modern history and explains the real meaning of Revolution, Communism, Freemasonry and War. It was not intended to become public knowledge. The translator, a Dr. J. Landowsky, made an unauthorized copy.

oletime 03-26-2010 08:04 PM

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I dont think either incident was manufactured ,from what i read on the got incident, it was the result of a nervous sailor looking at radar spotting a thunderstorm and radioing that they were under air attack.Thus the bombing began.PS I was glad nixon ended the draft when he did, i was just graduating

Praxeas 03-26-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 891791)
I believe two hard line Communist nations would unite quickly. China declared war on us in 1950 because we got to close to their territory in combat operations. At least thats what they said then.

North Korea is more of a dictatoryship/theocracy. Their glorious leader is considered "god" to many

pelathais 03-26-2010 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BroGary (Post 891837)
Yep, and also the average citizen is seemingly unaware of the global puppet show where the globalists are pulling the strings on both "sides".

Here are some interesting articles, the first two were written by an apostolic minister. ...

Thanks BroGary. We can't be too careful about them Rothschilds and Rockefellers trying to get us hick farm boys to bow to their will. I'll bet they just lie awake at night and scheme about how to get us to renounce our wholesome ways and start living like Hollywood movie stars.

An Gorbachev turns 80 this year, so you know he's just chomping at the bit to take over the planet before Satan looses patience with him.

pelathais 03-26-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 891853)
Thanks BroGary. We can't be too careful about them Rothschilds and Rockefellers trying to get us hick farm boys to bow to their will. I'll bet they just lie awake at night and scheme about how to get us to renounce our wholesome ways and start living like Hollywood movie stars.

And Gorbachev turns 80 this year, so you know he's just chomping at the bit to take over the planet before Satan looses patience with him.

I am just messing with you, of course. I love you like a brother, BoGary. It's just you need to update your conspiracy theories.

Everything "War on Terror" like is just out of date. It doesn't have the resonance that something like "Health Care Take Over and Death Panels" has.

Gorby and the Rothchilds? C'mon Bro. Next you'll be telling me that we're all waiting upon General Lasalle to fight his way into Toledo and rescue us from The Pit.

Update! There has to be a current menace that threatens us.

BroGary 03-26-2010 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 891853)
Thanks BroGary. We can't be too careful about them Rothschilds and Rockefellers trying to get us hick farm boys to bow to their will. I'll bet they just lie awake at night and scheme about how to get us to renounce our wholesome ways and start living like Hollywood movie stars.

An Gorbachev turns 80 this year, so you know he's just chomping at the bit to take over the planet before Satan looses patience with him.

So are you saying you don't believe the world system is being deliberately maneuvered toward the one world government of the Antichrist prophesied in the Bible ?

BroGary 03-26-2010 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 891854)
I am just messing with you, of course. I love you like a brother, BoGary. It's just you need to update your conspiracy theories.

Everything "War on Terror" like is just out of date. It doesn't have the resonance that something like "Health Care Take Over and Death Panels" has.

Gorby and the Rothchilds? C'mon Bro. Next you'll be telling me that we're all waiting upon General Lasalle to fight his way into Toledo and rescue us from The Pit.

Update! There has to be a current menace that threatens us.

No offense taken bro, I expect some doubters :-)

Anyhow, check out the articles on those links, this is valid info, the globalists plan things out well in advance and plans they made long ago have been being followed as research will show.

berkeley 03-26-2010 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BroGary (Post 891857)
So are you saying you don't believe the world system is being deliberately maneuvered toward the one world government of the Antichrist prophesied in the Bible ?

not in my generation... maybe the next to come.

Jermyn Davidson 03-26-2010 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Berkley (Post 891884)
not in my generation... maybe the next to come.

I agree with you.

However, I'm pretty confident that no matter what, somehow, America will not partake of that system.

Not Israel.
Not Jordan.
Not America.

BroGary 03-27-2010 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 891890)
I agree with you.

However, I'm pretty confident that no matter what, somehow, America will not partake of that system.

Not Israel.
Not Jordan.
Not America.

America, England, Europe, Israel, and many other countries are helping to bring about the one world government, so it is not a matter as to IF they will partake in it, they are helping to bring it about.

They may or may not be able to keep on schedule, but they are hoping to have one world government fully established by the end of 2012.

For those who doubt the push towards global government by the one-world globalists, they need to read some quotes by some of the globalists themselves as well as from those who became aware of their plans.

Here are some for a start:

“The main purpose of the (CFR) is promoting the disarmament of US sovereignty and national independence and submergence into and all powerful, one world government.”
- US Navy Admiral Chester Ward

“The Council on Foreign Relations is the American branch of a society which originated in England... (and) ...believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one world rule established.”
- Carroll Quigley (Bill Clinton's Georgetown mentor)

"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."
- Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992.

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order. "
- David Rockefeller

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
- David Rockefeller, Baden-Baden, Germany 1991


"We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
- Banker Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, as he testified before the U.S. Senate

"To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas".
- Brock Chisolm, former Director of the (WHO) World Health Organization

"Let me control a peoples currency and I care not who makes their laws."
- Meyer Nathaniel Rothschild in a speech to a gathering of world bankers February 12, 1912. (The following year, the USA subscribed to the 'services' of the newly incorporated Federal Reserve, headed by Mr. Rothschild.)

"The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties."
- New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922

"The depression was the calculated 'shearing' of the public by the World Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden shortage of supply of call money in the New York money market....The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank."
- Curtis Dall, FDR's son-in-law as quoted in his book, My Exploited Father-in-Law

"Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by... the people. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government - a bureaucratic elite."
- Senator William Jenner, 1954

"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical. What the Trilateral Commission intends is to create a worldwide economic power superior to the political governments of the nationstates involved. As managers and creators of the system, they will rule the future."
- U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater in his l964 book: With No Apologies.

"Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have."
- Richard Salent, former president, CBS News

"There is no such thing as an independent press in America, unless it is in the country towns. You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print.

"I am paid $150.00 a week for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things. If I should permit honest opinions to be printed in one issue of my paper, like Othello, before twenty-four hours, my occupation would be gone.

"The business of the New York journalist is to destroy truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon; to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. We are the tools and vessels for rich men behind the scenes. We are intellectual prostitutes."
- John Swinton, past editor of the New York Tribune.

"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."
- Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and Luftwaffe Commander in Chief

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."
- Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation."
- David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations

pelathais 03-27-2010 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BroGary (Post 891857)
So are you saying you don't believe the world system is being deliberately maneuvered toward the one world government of the Antichrist prophesied in the Bible ?

I do believe that throughout recorded human history there has always been a trend toward consolidating realms followed by trends to break up the consolidations.

Look at the history of ancient Egypt - one long record of unification continually interrupted by periods of disunity and local control.

Look at the history of Europe - same thing. And now with global transportation and communications the the whole system can be applied globally.

The Rothschilds are not a real factor in the global economy and even David Rockefeller is a marginal player. The "big international banks" all nearly went bankrupt in the past year and are now partially or even largely controlled by a diverse number of governments who have their own competing interests.

It's chaos. Grand and glorious chaos. That is what protects our freedoms on the local level.

And take another look at the Bible's statements concerning the Antichrist. "He causes all, both small and great..." in the whole world to join his economic plan by having an open scabrous pus oozing sore******* on their right hand or smack dab in the middle of their forehead?

Yet he can't seem to get all the world to go along with it. Consider the "King of the North" (Babylon in the OT) and the "King of the East" (Persia) constantly threatening him. If he can't get Iraq and Iran to heel, then he probably isn't a real global player.

pelathais 03-27-2010 02:57 PM

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******* Just get one of those Verichips inserted under the skin of your right hand or your forehead and post a pic of the inplant site after about a week or two.

That is, if you haven't scatched the thing out in your sleep and lost it.

pelathais 03-27-2010 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BroGary (Post 891862)
No offense taken bro, I expect some doubters :-)

Anyhow, check out the articles on those links, this is valid info, the globalists plan things out well in advance and plans they made long ago have been being followed as research will show.

Check out the history of the Rothschilds. The heirs have been bailing out of the banking business so much that there isn't even a Rothschilds in London any more - and that was once their strongest branch. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_R..._de_Rothschild

I really don't think the good Baron David de Rothschild really cares whether I buy or sell or if I just loaf around on the beach working on my tan lines.

Praxeas 03-27-2010 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 891978)
******* Just get one of those Verichips inserted under the skin of your right hand or your forehead and post a pic of the inplant site after about a week or two.

That is, if you haven't scatched the thing out in your sleep and lost it.

I think we should have verichipped every Islamic we captured and released

Praxeas 03-27-2010 03:13 PM

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How come when the richest men on the planet are announced by forms we never see a Rothschild or a Rockefeller?

Ron 03-27-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 891987)
How come when the richest men on the planet are announced by forms we never see a Rothschild or a Rockefeller?

Why? Easy, they hide in the background, yet they still wield Power.

It also isn't just one person, but a group of people of which Warren Buffett, & Bill Gates are just some of a part of this group.

The head of the New World Order?

Queen Elizabeth!

pelathais 03-27-2010 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 891989)
Why? Easy, they hide in the background, yet they still wield Power.

It also isn't just one person, but a group of people of which Warren Buffett, & Bill Gates are just some of a part of this group.

The head of the New World Order?

Queen Elizabeth!

You wacky Canucks!

I found a vieo that illustrates what I was trying to say to BroGary about the "Beast" gettin' his posse together in Europe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOJ-CrhWh3I

BroGary 03-27-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 891977)
I do believe that throughout recorded human history there has always been a trend toward consolidating realms followed by trends to break up the consolidations.

Look at the history of ancient Egypt - one long record of unification continually interrupted by periods of disunity and local control.

Look at the history of Europe - same thing. And now with global transportation and communications the the whole system can be applied globally.

The Rothschilds are not a real factor in the global economy and even David Rockefeller is a marginal player. The "big international banks" all nearly went bankrupt in the past year and are now partially or even largely controlled by a diverse number of governments who have their own competing interests.

It's chaos. Grand and glorious chaos. That is what protects our freedoms on the local level.

And take another look at the Bible's statements concerning the Antichrist. "He causes all, both small and great..." in the whole world to join his economic plan by having an open scabrous pus oozing sore******* on their right hand or smack dab in the middle of their forehead?

Yet he can't seem to get all the world to go along with it. Consider the "King of the North" (Babylon in the OT) and the "King of the East" (Persia) constantly threatening him. If he can't get Iraq and Iran to heel, then he probably isn't a real global player.

No offense bro, but either you haven't done any serious in-depth research or you listen to the controlled neocon nwo media puppets like Limbaugh, ect.

They planned way ahead of time to orchestrate 3 world wars to reach their one world government goal, the first 2 went basically as they planned, the 3rd they said they would provoke between the Islamic and western world (and they planned this back in the 1800's), it is all pretty much a global puppet show and the average citizens are unwitting pawns.

The Rothschilds, ect. keep a low profile and use various fronts to work thru, they realized a very long time ago that money = control, and the central banks they have started in most major countries have given them control over money as well as politics.

Here are some things that should help y'all get a better understanding:

(below are excerpts from an article written by an apostolic minister)

Is the Devil in the New World Order?
Most people are not aware of the Luciferic connection.

Rooted in ancient beliefs tracing back as far as Nimrod at the Tower of Babel....

I have traced back hundreds of years to identify the major spirits of the past two thousand years, and attempt to show how they have brought us to our present dilemma. If you will be patient, these explanations will astonish you.

In the United Nations, the Lucis Trust (originally the Luciferian Trust), founded by Luciferian Alice Bailey, has secured a permanent chapel for religious observance within the UN walls.

CLICK HERE to read the entire article.

http://kenraggio.com/KRPN-DevilinNWO.htm


JFK speech on secret societies + transcript/subtitles
(4 minutes 30 seconds)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZYfeYhQ9eU


Presidents and control of the Money Supply
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USGSOViaulc


How the Federal Reserve runs its debt scam on the American people
(only 2 minutes long - but VERY informative !)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV9yDLhKbjg


The Complete Idiot's Guide to the New World Order
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRLPG_HplrA


The Creature From Jekyll Island - A Second Look at the Federal Reserve - 2008 Edition (Paperback)
by G. Edward Griffin (Author)
Publisher: American Media (2008)
ASIN: B00181HBR0

Here is a VERY interesting mp3 audio lecture by the above author exposing the Federal Reserve and even how they were so secretive and deceptive in getting it started:

The Creature from Jekyll Island (zipped file, "right click" and choose "save target as" to download)

The Creature from Jekyll Island (MP3 file, click to listen online or "right click" and choose "save target as" to download)

Pawns in the Game (Paperback)
by William Guy Carr (Author)
Publisher: Noontide Press; First Noontide Press edition (March 1, 2007)
ISBN-10: 0939482657
ISBN-13: 978-0939482658

Enroute to Global Occupation (1992)
by Gary H. Kah
ISBN-10: 0910311978
ISBN-13: 978-0910311977

New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies (1990)
by William T. Still
ISBN-10: 0910311641
ISBN-13: 978-0910311649

Ron 03-27-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 891991)
You wacky Canucks!

I found a vieo that illustrates what I was trying to say to BroGary about the "Beast" gettin' his posse together in Europe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOJ-CrhWh3I

We are Canucks all right.

Know who owns all the land in Canada & the commonwealth?

The Queen, that is why it is called Crown Land!:thumbsup

pelathais 03-27-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BroGary (Post 891992)
No offense bro, but either you haven't done any serious in-depth research or you listen to the controlled neocon nwo media puppets like Limbaugh, ect.

...

LOL. None taken Bro.

Do you buy into William Carr's idea (really Confederate Gen. Albert Pike's theory) concerning the "Three World Wars?"

Gonna have Jews and their banker friends causing all kinds of slaughter?

And just as a backgrounder... I have Jesus name baptized and Holy Ghost filled family members that are employed within the Carlyle Group. They report none of the mischief that the conspiracy folks rail about.

And, I haven't listened to el Rushbo in a couple of years. My schedule is such. I always enjoyed his sense of humor. I went through most of your material back in the 1970's when I was growing up. I desperately wanted to find some sort of meaning in it all.

pelathais 03-27-2010 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 891996)
We are Canucks all right.

Know who owns all the land in Canada & the commonwealth?

The Queen, that is why it is called Crown Land!:thumbsup

You'd best be nice to old Lizzie then, right?

I used to hate it when she and Charles would send their hounds through our oats followed by the monstrous crew of "hunters" tearing up our crops and making every winter's prospects a bit more bleak all in the name of their cruel ideas of "sportsmanship." That wild cacophony of barking, bugles and hoof beats always meant humiliation and hunger for the denizens of our village. Don't even get me started about what happens when we try and fill our pots by taking game in "her" woods.

BroGary 03-27-2010 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 891996)
We are Canucks all right.

Know who owns all the land in Canada & the commonwealth?

The Queen, that is why it is called Crown Land!:thumbsup

Didn't see the video yet, but I know what you're saying about who owns Canada.

(most people don't realize there is a lot more to the "Crown" and "The City" than what pubic schools taught them, also amazing is how many people in positions of power in various countries (including middle east countries) are high level Freemasons)

pelathais 03-27-2010 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BroGary (Post 892000)
Didn't see the video yet, but I know what you're saying about who owns Canada.

(most people don't realize there is a lot more to the "Crown" and "The City" than what pubic schools taught them, also amazing is how many people in positions of power in various countries (including middle east countries) are high level Freemasons)

Yeah, all of that boozin' and the way they drive around in parades in those tiny little cars. They'll be the end of our freedoms for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fhf8...8203E8&index=1

BroGary 03-27-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 891997)
LOL. None taken Bro.

Do you buy into William Carr's idea (really Confederate Gen. Albert Pike's theory) concerning the "Three World Wars?"

Gonna have Jews and their banker friends causing all kinds of slaughter?

And just as a backgrounder... I have Jesus name baptized and Holy Ghost filled family members that are employed within the Carlyle Group. They report none of the mischief that the conspiracy folks rail about.

And, I haven't listened to el Rushbo in a couple of years. My schedule is such. I always enjoyed his sense of humor. I went through most of your material back in the 1970's when I was growing up. I desperately wanted to find some sort of meaning in it all.

History bears out how their plans are being fulfilled.

It would be good to clarify that it is the Jews who follow the Talmud and Cabala (basically modern day Pharisees) who have sold out to the New World Order, there are Torah following Jews who are against the Talmud/Cabala Jews who are the ones in power. (and the Talmud/Cabala Jews have plenty of Gentile NWO cohorts)

The Carlyle Group and other NWO fronts are compartmentalized, not everyone employed by such fronts are in on the agenda of those at the top, but are used as unwitting pawns.

The Bible does prophesy an evil one world government will happen, if you can't see the evidence of such a system being put in place, no hard feelings, but I guess it might have to actually happen first for you and some others to believe it, but at least keep in mind that the mainstream media is controlled by the globalists and they have a lot of practice at deceiving the public.

BroGary 03-27-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 892002)
Yeah, all of that boozin' and the way they drive around in parades in those tiny little cars. They'll be the end of our freedoms for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fhf8...8203E8&index=1

Very funny bro, but I guess I should clarify that it is the top level Freemasons who are in on the Luciferian agenda, at the lower levels they have many sincere unwitting pawns they use as a cover.

Praxeas 03-27-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 891989)
Why? Easy, they hide in the background, yet they still wield Power.

It also isn't just one person, but a group of people of which Warren Buffett, & Bill Gates are just some of a part of this group.

The head of the New World Order?

Queen Elizabeth!

Wealth is power..again how come these two families don't show up on these lists? they must not have the money people claim they have

Praxeas 03-27-2010 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron (Post 891996)
We are Canucks all right.

Know who owns all the land in Canada & the commonwealth?

The Queen, that is why it is called Crown Land!:thumbsup

so if we needed another land fill we we should contact the Queen? :ursofunny


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