What Is The One Step Of One Step Doctrine?
 

Is there just one step to salvation? Believers say there is. Does it hold up under their own belief system?

Here is the meat of this belief.

8: But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9: That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10: For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11: For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12: For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Which is the one step one must take to be saved?

Is it to believe in the heart?
Is it to confess with your mouth?
Is it to call on the name of the Lord?

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It is to surrender one's life to Jesus Christ.

W/o that, no other "steps" matter at ALL! I believe we could label that "step" repentance.

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So would one be considered saved if he believed (surrendered his life to Christ) but he did not confess him as Lord? He believed in his heart but has not yet called on the name of the Lord?

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Well, "believed", asked for "forgiveness" and "confessed Him as Lord" to the best of his or her ability and understanding at that moment. And if you were to keel over dead between then and your visit to he baptismal tank you WILL be saved and see Him in paradise that day.

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Watch that first (or only) step! :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-c8_...1&feature=fvwp

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Reminds me of the the Bridge of Khazad Dum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_5iFpzno3A

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Which reminds me of Charlie the Unicorn!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsGYh8AacgY

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But wait. To believe is one thing. To ask forgiveness is another thing. To confess him as Lord is another thing.

Would that not be three things one must do to be saved? What if he were to keel over dead before having done one or two of the other things? Would they THEN be saved?

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A person can "confess" all they want, but unless their heart is in it the confession is invalid. Kind of like the kid who was told to sit down in church: He did but told his Mom that he was still standing on the inside. Without a surrendered life/heart confession is worthless.

Jesus can be technically "confessed" (I think) as Lord with a surrendered life. However, one can "confess" and their life not back up their confession. In that case, the confession was useless, IMO. :D

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Which in turn reminds me of Charlie Brown.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h38srxvt6qE

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I see Michael is getting the "help" that the tone of his question deserves.

For myself Michael, that "one step" was the one taken by a man other than myself or any preacher that I have ever met. That "one step" is described in John 10:11.

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Quite interesting pelathais. Now the things that even Paul said are of no value. If no one can seriously address the subject so be it.

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Which reminds me of the Retarded Horse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcwiyrgmxVo

:lol:slaphappy:toofunny

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Yes, like when Paul said... "And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified."

I guess that means Paul is telling us to ignore everything else that he had ever said or written? No, I don't think so.

And on the same theme, our friend and sometime AFF poster "Andy" in Louisiana has this recent photo from his church's "back yard" - 199 feet tall and illuminated at night. I think this "small" token truly represents the meaning of that "one step" Gospel (Matthew 11:28-30).

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...lathais/_n.jpg

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They are saved when they repent, for at that point there is no longer sin in their lives separating them from Christ.

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Hmmm. I have a feeling that lots of people who have never heard of Jesus, or who have heard of Him but don't believe He is God, repent. Does that work?

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Why would someone who has sincerely surrendered their life to Jesus Christ NOT want to be baptized? If one surrenders their life, they WANT to follow Jesus Christ including baptism. :D

And just how do they repent? What are you referring to? :D

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They are sorry, and turn away from their evil deeds! What do you think "repent" means?

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re·pent 1 (r-pnt)
v. re·pent·ed, re·pent·ing, re·pents
v.intr.
1. To feel remorse, contrition, or self-reproach for what one has done or failed to do; be contrite.
2. To feel such regret for past conduct as to change one's mind regarding it: repented of intemperate behavior.
3. To make a change for the better as a result of remorse or contrition for one's sins.

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That's great that they turn FROM their evil deeds...but what to they turn TO? THAT makes all the difference! :D

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To good deeds!

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GREAT! They're SELF righteous! They've turned to themselves! So they've repented toward themselves. Somehow I don't think that will work. They can't save themselves. LOL!

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You didn't ask me (and given the terms of our current friendship you may not even see this!), but I would answer "Yes."

Jesus saves us because of Calvary - not because of any works of righteousness which we have done (Titus 3:5).

On the other hand, if the hypothetical convert that you describe were to kick dirt in our faces when we asked him if he was ready to be baptized now, the problem wouldn't be in his refusal to be baptized - The problem would be in the insufficiency of his "repentance."

Even if we dragged him kicking and screaming into and under the water, baptism would still not save him.

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So, if one is truly repentant of one's sins, one will always want to be baptized?

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So, it's a bad thing to stop doing bad things and start doing good things?

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In my opinion, no.
Some may have been "baptized" as a baby and believe there is no need to be rebaptized after being saved as an adult.

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What if they just don't believe in it? Isn't it possible for an unbeliever to be repentant?

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not sure what you mean by "they just don't believe in it."

In my opinion, a person is saved when he/she believes in the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus and makes a commitment to Him. That person may have been "baptized" as a baby and honestly sees no need for being re-baptized. That person may (like Quakers) believe baptism is a spiritual experience and should not be done in physical water. Or, the person may believe that baptism may be administered by sprinkling, pouring, or immersion and may choose the non immersion type of baptism.

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In baptism in particular, and the Gospel in general.

Well, it seems that some here believe salvation is granted to those who repent, when they repent. I'm just saying that, by the ordinary English definition of the word "repent", there must be a lot of people who are "saved", even though they don't believe in Jesus. Atheists can repent!

But I have a feeling those people aren't using that definition! :lol

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Once you come around to seeing things my way, Timmy; I'd expect to find you on my front door step wearing a shower cap and a wet suit.

You'll amaze yourself!

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So, Michael, was your question answered?

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ROFL!!! Poor Michael knew what he was doing from the start and I have a feeling he is a little less than satisfied. Talk about walking around a track multiple times to find a gate to a proper and complete answer. HAHAHAHAHAHA

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:lol

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Yeah, not many people in the "Three Stepper" world ever seem to be able to understand the simple and obvious message of the Gospels - "Jesus Saves!"

So instead, they end up projecting their own misconceptions onto everyone around them and demand "answers" that sound like their own.

That's what happens every time you take the cross out of Christianity. People just start making lists and demanding obedience to whatever thought crosses their local preacher's mind with little if any consideration for the Bible.

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Well I am a three stepper (which really makes little sense to me why it is three steps but I will go along). I just find it amusing the answers involved in this discussion. Many facets to salvation. I have seen this particular question asked and then you get people who are one steppers arguing over one step. They then try or attempt to compromise to a solution and basically become all inclusive yet the scriptures are singular points of what is involved. Believe in... YEP! Repent....YEP! Confess him as Lord....YEP! Works....YEP! Baptism...YEP! Spirit....YEP! Commandments....YEP! Faithfulness....YEP! Confession of sins....Yep! Endurance....YEP!

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Hmmmm...

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Still waiting on an answer, Mike? :)

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What is baptism for? If you won't be baptized are you still saved?

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Interesting thread,it raises some valid questions,but at the moment I don't feel like entering into the discussion,maybe later when I feel up to it.