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Ron 03-27-2010 11:43 PM

Earth Hour Nonsense
 
I don't know who this guy is but I like what he says at CFP.
It has the rest of the article as well as a satellite pic of North Korea at night.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/21424

It’s Always “Earth Hour” in North Korea

For all those Green morons calling on us to turn off our lights Saturday evening from 8:30 PM to 9:30 PM to celebrate “Earth Hour”, this is what it looks like every night in North and South Korea. The North is in the grip of a Stalinist dictator and the South is a thriving democracy.

Like fire, electricity is truly a gift of the gods. It is the difference between the Dark Age and the present age…but not for everyone. Much of Africa is in darkness. too. People who hate civilization and the humans who created it are welcome to live out in the wilderness or in some primitive backward country where they burn dung to cook their meals.


Earth Hour, what a bunch of nonsense!
Don't dither over that which God has cursed.

viggie 03-28-2010 05:46 AM

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I don't think there's anything wrong with being a good steward of our resources, or increasing our frugality by reducing our consumption. And in my life I'm learning to live more simply anyway, so it fits. I spent the hour reading Amish Peace by lantern light. It's a book about how Christians can benefit from applying Amish principals of simplicity to their own lives.

CC1 03-28-2010 06:40 AM

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I also try to be a good steward of resources but that does not mean I have turned my brain off and am not aware of the humanist agenda to deify the earth and elevate it above man.

It also does not mean I am not aware of the junk science that promotes the idea of man made climate change. Recent events have proven many proponents of climate change (previously known as global warming until the warming stopped) are willing to outright lie and fabricate data while ignoring other data to promote their theories.

I am proud to say all lights were blazing in the CC1 household last night as a protest to the eco alarmists.

viggie 03-28-2010 07:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 892122)
I also try to be a good steward of resources but that does not mean I have turned my brain off and am not aware of the humanist agenda to deify the earth and elevate it above man.

It also does not mean I am not aware of the junk science that promotes the idea of man made climate change. Recent events have proven many proponents of climate change (previously known as global warming until the warming stopped) are willing to outright lie and fabricate data while ignoring other data to promote their theories.

I am proud to say all lights were blazing in the CC1 household last night as a protest to the eco alarmists.

Maybe so. But you don't need to idolize the easter bunny to celebrate Easter. I can celebrate earth hour with the intention of respecting God and His creation...without pushing some evil agenda. I don't think it would hurt any of us to shut off all the distractions for some quiet time to read and pray. As someone who is an urban homesteader and focusing on simple living...I think I'm just coming from a different perspective :)

RandyWayne 03-28-2010 02:20 PM

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Not only did I NOT participate in Earth Hour but I burnt far more electricity then normal since I brought 16 MacBooks home from work in order to run updates on them (my net connection is 10 times faster then our schools).

viggie 03-28-2010 02:36 PM

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I didn't realize ecology was such an upsetting issue to Apostolics. We were put here to tend the garden after all. And it's really just common sense. Do you want to breathe smog and drink polluted water?

RandyWayne 03-28-2010 03:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by viggie (Post 892171)
I didn't realize ecology was such an upsetting issue to Apostolics. We were put here to tend the garden after all. And it's really just common sense. Do you want to breathe smog and drink polluted water?

It is not even about the environment. It is about using environmentalism (the new "Red" since the fall of the Soviet Union) as a means toward socialism. Global Warming/Climate Change is the biggest scam of them all since it has shifted incredible amounts of financial resources to fighting a problem which doesn't exist -to the detriment of environmental problems which DO. I'm all for removing sulphar and other smog forming nasties from smoke stacks, yet what is the main "villain" now? CO2, perhaps the most benign of power plant outputs.

And I do not know ONE person who is FOR "dirty air" and "Polluted water".

Praxeas 03-28-2010 03:15 PM

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why do I need to celebrate mother earth? Sounds paganish lol..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLrTPrp-fW8

RandyWayne 03-28-2010 03:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 892195)
why do I need to celebrate mother earth? Sounds paganish lol..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLrTPrp-fW8

I like this 'Mother Nature' commercial......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE85CEM_0zY

berkeley 03-28-2010 03:50 PM

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you're weird

DAII 03-28-2010 03:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by viggie (Post 892171)
I didn't realize ecology was such an upsetting issue to Apostolics. We were put here to tend the garden after all. And it's really just common sense. Do you want to breathe smog and drink polluted water?

Duh, that's why I moved to Houston

pelathais 03-28-2010 04:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 892221)
Duh, that's why I moved to Houston

Dunno Bro. You were in NYC before that. I don't think you've ever lived in "God's country" as they say.

DAII 03-28-2010 05:14 PM

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On the par when it comes to smog but one of the greatest kept secrets about NYC is its tap water that comes from the upstate resevoirs.

Seriously the best water I have ever had.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb.../na-tapwater25
Quote:

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 892241)
Dunno Bro. You were in NYC before that. I don't think you've ever lived in "God's country" as they say.


Phil Stearns 03-28-2010 09:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 892122)
I also try to be a good steward of resources but that does not mean I have turned my brain off and am not aware of the humanist agenda to deify the earth and elevate it above man.

It also does not mean I am not aware of the junk science that promotes the idea of man made climate change. Recent events have proven many proponents of climate change (previously known as global warming until the warming stopped) are willing to outright lie and fabricate data while ignoring other data to promote their theories.

I am proud to say all lights were blazing in the CC1 household last night as a protest to the eco alarmists.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 892164)
Not only did I NOT participate in Earth Hour but I burnt far more electricity then normal since I brought 16 MacBooks home from work in order to run updates on them (my net connection is 10 times faster then our schools).

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 892188)
It is not even about the environment. It is about using environmentalism (the new "Red" since the fall of the Soviet Union) as a means toward socialism. Global Warming/Climate Change is the biggest scam of them all since it has shifted incredible amounts of financial resources to fighting a problem which doesn't exist -to the detriment of environmental problems which DO. I'm all for removing sulphar and other smog forming nasties from smoke stacks, yet what is the main "villain" now? CO2, perhaps the most benign of power plant outputs.

And I do not know ONE person who is FOR "dirty air" and "Polluted water".

Good posts. We are in agreement. :)

commonsense 03-28-2010 09:45 PM

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I also agree with above. I didn't change my usage but I did not turn anything off! :nah

U376977 03-28-2010 10:33 PM

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Thank God for the USA where I can turn on every light in the house, the washer and dryer, 3 TV's, computer and laptop, refrigator and freezer, microwave, oven and 4 burners, hot water heater, appliances and stereos, ALL AT THE SAME TIME IF NECESSARY

I have apostolic brethern in the Philippines who are living with daily brown outs, the drought has caused such a drop in the rivers and dams that the power plants cannot meet the demand.

Jermyn Davidson 03-28-2010 10:46 PM

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I think there is nothing wrong, but everything right about being CONSERVATIVE in regards to our environment.

The earth is the Lord's and the fulness thereof.

Just as my body is His Temple, the Earth is His creation and be it far from me to purposely show it disregard, disrespect or to abuse it.


I have actually thought about starting a recycling drive at my church, maybe as a way of being a fundraiser for Missionaries, Home Missions, or whatever.

pelathais 03-28-2010 11:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 892313)
I think there is nothing wrong, but everything right about being CONSERVATIVE in regards to our environment.

The earth is the Lord's and the fulness thereof.

Just as my body is His Temple, the Earth is His creation and be it far from me to purposely show it disregard, disrespect or to abuse it.


I have actually thought about starting a recycling drive at my church, maybe as a way of being a fundraiser for Missionaries, Home Missions, or whatever.

We should be responsible stewards. I just don't see how forcing me to ride in a crowded smelly bus that belches clouds of diesel fumes for 4 hours a day is a fair way to offset Al Gore's private jet flights to Davos in the Swiss Alps.

The folks pushing this stuff put out such huge thermal footprints that you can see where they've been from space. How's that "helping" things out?

The simple fact of the matter is this: Yes, climate change is real. It has always been real. The only thing that doesn't change about this planet is the fact that it's constantly changing.

The fact that there are so many sink holes in Florida testifies to the fact that ocean levels were once much higher than they are now. In order for the sea levels to be that high there would have had to have been little or no polar ice at all.

We're human beings responsible for that "global warming?" Could human being have prevented it?

It's all a scam.

Aquila 03-29-2010 08:10 AM

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I too believe in being a good steward of the environment. I believe that the private sector is perfectly able to address our environmental needs, we don't need a socialist totalitarian government guiding us by force of law to care for our world. I also believe that it's a biblical imparative that Christians be mindful and deliberate in our attempt to protect the environment.

http://www.creationcare.org/
http://www.icr.org/

iceniez 03-29-2010 08:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by viggie (Post 892115)
I don't think there's anything wrong with being a good steward of our resources, or increasing our frugality by reducing our consumption. And in my life I'm learning to live more simply anyway, so it fits. I spent the hour reading Amish Peace by lantern light. It's a book about how Christians can benefit from applying Amish principals of simplicity to their own lives.

Were you being serious ?

Aquila 03-29-2010 08:22 AM

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Christians should lead the charge regarding stewardship of God's creation. Creation care was one of Adam's primary duties.

Also, I think we have truly complicated our lives with many things. To live simply (learning from the Amish) as one poster implied, wouldn't be all that bad. In fact, it could spiritually empower us.

iceniez 03-29-2010 08:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 892358)
Christians should lead the charge regarding stewardship of God's creation. Creation care was one of Adam's primary duties.

Also, I think we have truly complicated our lives with many things. To live simply (learning from the Amish) as one poster implied, wouldn't be all that bad. In fact, it could spiritually empower us.

Amen as long as it stays just stewardship and does not put us in chains. I agree with the Amish way of life in a lot of things.

Esther 03-29-2010 01:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 892320)
We should be responsible stewards. I just don't see how forcing me to ride in a crowded smelly bus that belches clouds of diesel fumes for 4 hours a day is a fair way to offset Al Gore's private jet flights to Davos in the Swiss Alps.

The folks pushing this stuff put out such huge thermal footprints that you can see where they've been from space. How's that "helping" things out?

The simple fact of the matter is this: Yes, climate change is real. It has always been real. The only thing that doesn't change about this planet is the fact that it's constantly changing.

The fact that there are so many sink holes in Florida testifies to the fact that ocean levels were once much higher than they are now. In order for the sea levels to be that high there would have had to have been little or no polar ice at all.

We're human beings responsible for that "global warming?" Could human being have prevented it?

It's all a scam.

Ditto:thumbsup


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