Praying for the Next Conservative President:
 

I'd like to start a thread with prayer and discussion toward our next conservative President. I'm praying that God would use Newt Gingrich by raising him up to bring a mighty revival of conservatism to the United States. I believe he's a dynamic leader and policy maker. I'm praying and even speaking on the grass roots level about this.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...erGingrich.jpg

Will you pray with me and support a possible Newt Gingrich run for President???

If not, who are you supporting and why? Please share and let's all pray for all these men and their families.

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Ya got a president. Why don't ya pray God uses him?

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I'm not sure about Newt. Especially after reading comments he made on NBC's Today Show.

His support of not only Steele, but also Boehner and McConnell are disappointing. Steele needs to resign. His misuse and abuse of GOP funds for personal use are inexcusable. Boehner and McConnell are adequate, but should not be Speaker and Majority Leader.

If he's on the ticket in 11/12, I'd vote for him, but I'd have to hear more from him to vote in the Primary.

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I pray every day for BHO....that he doesn't wreck the country anymore than he already has; that he's a one-termer; and that a conservative takes his place in 2012.

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I agree with Boehner and Ron Paul that some earmarks are appropriate and necessary. We just need less and have more transparency. Ron Paul's view wasn't posted on the above link, but I've heard him address the issue of earmarks in the past. And, again, I agree!

Praying for a Conservative President to come along. I hope that Paul Ryan, Mike Pence and Eric Cantor will be able to turn this ship around! They are more conservative than anyone I know and are new blood. That's what we need. I'm not sure that Newt could stand a chance at the Presidency.

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The point I was making was that you can't pray for Obama to do a good job. If you do and God answers that prayer then you won't get your conservative president.........

So all you pray for is that he screws up just enough so that he doesn't get reelected and that he doesn't screw up so badly that he destroys this country.

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What Steele did was wrong. However, Newts right... if we focused on Steele we loose focus on the Democrats and their Socialist agenda. The media will demonize Steele and the RNC more than it covers the Obama Administration. The way I look at it is while yes, Steele used RNC funds for some freaky activity he should just be required to pay it back. Stepping down would be news at 11.

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LOL, do wrong and all they gotta do is pay it back. I wonder what you'd be saying if Obama had done this. Impeachment possibly?

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I'm just worried that Steele is a liability that will cost the GOP in the fall. As you said, the media will demonize both Steele and the GOP and cause an already skeptical public to become moreso.

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Considering the individual who posted that, I doubt Aquila would have any different opinion, regardless the person or party. He's not overly partisan like some folk.

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Maybe but I won't buy that isn't what he'd be saying unless I hear it from him.

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In terms of the next presidential election, it will likely be an interesting one. I have read numerous articles recently of how the Tea Party is going to split the conservative vote if they field a candidate, much like Perot is thought to have in the '92 election. It will also be interesting to see if the majority that voted for Obama this time approve of him enough to vote him in again.

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Interesting article that articulates my point...

April 6, 2010
Michael Steele deserves to keep his job

Michael S. Steele has always had enemies in the Republican National Committee. Elected to the party’s top post in the wake of President Obama’s election, Mr. Steele, Maryland’s former lieutenant governor, brought a younger, hipper attitude — and, not coincidentally, some highly visible diversity — to a party whose prospects looked dim indeed. But his a tendency to say what’s on his mind, even if it doesn’t hue to the carefully scripted party orthodoxy, has always brought detractors, and he’s faced quiet calls for his resignation over one gaffe or another from almost the day he took office.

The politics of jettisoning Mr. Steele have always been terrible. How could a party that struggles with an all-white image in an increasingly multicultural society fire the first minority to serve as its chairman for speaking his mind?

But those looking for an excuse to get rid of Mr. Steele may have found it in the recent revelations that RNC staffers entertained young donors at a high-end bondage-themed strip club in Los Angeles and were reimbursed by the party for their $1,900 tab, coupled with reports of spending by the committee on private jets and posh hotels. Party insiders are grumbling that Mr. Steele’s actions to fire key staff members and institute new spending controls aren’t enough to reverse the damage they say the chairman has done to the party’s image and that a total change at the committee is necessary.

Hogwash. Spending big money to woo top-dollar donors isn’t the most savory element of party politics, but it’s not as if Mr. Steele invented the concept.

And it’s hard to argue with his success. The committee does have less cash on hand than it did when Mr. Steele took over, but he has raised record amounts of money and easily kept pace with the Democratic Party, despite the fact that the Democrats have President Obama in their corner. Some party insiders are complaining that major donors are defecting and giving money to other Republican-affiliated organizations. So what? Evidently Mr. Steele has done nothing to discourage support for Republican candidates. Perhaps the party’s money apparatus isn’t as centrally controlled as it once was, but isn’t that the formula Democrats rode to success in 2006 and 2008?

Mr. Steele can also count three big wins since he took office: the formerly Democratic gubernatorial posts in Virginia and New Jersey and Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat in Massachusetts. By all estimations, the GOP is set to make major gains in the midterm elections this year. Why would the party pick now to convene a circular firing squad? It sounds positively like something the Democrats would do.

What’s really behind the objections to Mr. Steele is a dislike by some members of the party establishment of a leader who isn’t tightly controlled and rigidly on message. Some of the statements that have gotten Mr. Steele in trouble were his prediction (shared by every independent political analyst) that the Republican Party would make gains in the fall elections but wasn’t likely to recapture control of Congress; his characterization of talk radio host Rush Limbaugh’s style as "incendiary" and "ugly"; and his remark in a GQ interview that abortion is an "individual choice." They all fit the classic Washington definition of a gaffe: accidentally telling the truth.

By all means, party donors are right to make sure the RNC, under Mr. Steele’s leadership, is spending their money as wisely as possible, and it’s entirely appropriate to scrutinize the chairman’s plans to institute tighter financial controls. But it’s worth noting that Mr. Steele was not at the strip club and didn’t know about it before it happened. He’s taken swift and severe action against those who were involved.

That may not be enough for the chairman’s inside-the-beltway critics, but they need to look at the bigger picture. The party is set to pick up dozens of seats across the country, and nothing Mr. Steele has done, from his impolitic statements to his spending, has changed that fact. But a messy fight over the party’s leadership just might. Mr. Steele’s term ends in January; he deserves a chance to serve it out and prove his effectiveness at the one place it counts: the ballot box.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news...es_to_kee.html

Steele wasn't at the club and didn't know about it before hand. Steele has fired staffers involved and instituted stricter controls.

Let's assume YOU were the chairman of the RNC. You wake up one morning and your wife tosses you the morning paper. Featured is an article about your staff taking some donors to a seedy club. As you make phone calls you discover (as does the media) that the trip was reimbursed out of RNC funds. So you find out who was involved and you fire them. You also institute tougher spending rules and controls. But many in your party are now calling for your head on a silver platter. Do you resign like YOU did something wrong??? No. You address the problem, let your ignorant detractors bark, and move forward as a leader.

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I don't think BHO was voted in because of popular vote as much as through fraud. For example, he won Illinois because he was the Chicago group's choice and they control the official vote count for the state. He won Ohio because of ACORN fraud. We had more votes in Ohio than we had voters. And I'm sure stuff like that happened in other places.

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I think God is using the current president to usher in the next conservative president! LOL!

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Dont confuse Newt's refusal to add fuel to a fire while in the "enemy camp" as his position on Steele.

I suspect that in republican only circles, his view is a bit different than what he will say to some liberal talking head in the MSM

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I pray for our President.
My thoughts on prayer and support for our President can be found at
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=29379

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LOL!

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If obama used DNC funds for strip clubs I would be really talking about his lack of morality as president but it isnt impeachable.

if he used tax payer funds, then yes. impeach.

as for Steele, the RNC needs to work thru some issues, keep a public face of unity and get thru these elections then deal with it.

On another board, where there are tons of liberals, all I say is that they have no business sticking their immoral nose into Republican business.

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The Apostle Paul told us to pray for our leaders (1 Timothy 2:1-6) and to be obedient to the laws of our land (Romans 13:1-7 and Titus 3:1-2). The Apostle Peter urged obedience to civil rulers (1 Peter 2:13-17). Jesus told us to render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's... (Matthew 22:21).

Even with our government's descent into Socialism we have it better than those folks back there to whom those things were spoken. And, we can work to change our government while those folks back there were pretty much powerless to do so.

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All I'm saying is if you'd down one guy for it and not the other... then there is something wrong ;) Oh yea, and remember what you say about Democrats in Republicans business the next time ya want to get in the Democrats business ;)

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They should have put Ken Blackwell in that position in the first place.

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Ken Blackwell is considered "Apostolic" by some.
It is my understanding that his wife (and maybe he) attend Bethlehem Temple in the Cincinnati, Ohio area.

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I still like SP. The biggest problem is she does not have a family history of politics, which is why the "people" like her. She is down to earth. The media hates her. Have to wonder why????

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The strip club is a closed case for me. He dealt with it and fired the one responsible. I don't think he was there or had any knowledge of it - he says he wasn't and didn't...I believe him on that.

However, my issue is his personal spending and charging it to the GOP donors. 5-star hotels, private jets ... it has to stop. He needs to show some restraint and stop the spending.

And bigger than that...what crosses the line for me and causes me to lose respect for the man is his response to criticism is use the race card.

That, to me, is worse than the strip club and spending. It's a slap in the face to those who supported his being voted in and continue to support him.

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Actually, I DO pray for Obama to do a good job. Which in this case essentially means that he doesn't do any more damage to the country and doesn't get a second term, and that whoever replaces him does do a good job.

What BHO considers and "good job" and what is good for the country and most of us living in it aren't the same thing by all the evidence thus far.

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Sir, we are talking about the party of deadredted kennedy, Barny maleboy prostitution ring Frank, and Bill Clinton.

There is never a day when a democrat gets to point a moral finger at anyone for any reason.

you can have sex with a dead cat and a democrat has no right to suggest it is wrong.

I will get into the bidness of democrats when it is relevent.

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I will vote for Newt. He is the smartest man in the room and it really doesnt matter what room he is in.

I do think he has serious baggage that will prevent him from winning the republican primary.

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Newt Gingrich? Are you serious? This dude is dirtier than dirt!
http://www.realchange.org/gingrich.htm

Mike Huckabee, imo, is the only person who can give Obama a run for his money! Sarah Plain, Tim Plawenty and Mitt "the flip flop" Romney doesnt have a chance.


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What can I say? My jaw has hit the floor. The room is spinning around me.

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I agree. And keep in mind, the guy was a fund raiser. It's his job to travel around and "glad hand" potential donors and even take them out for dinner and a show.

While I would have preferred that the "show" had been the new Jennifer Anniston movie and not the "club" that was featured in the news, I don't think it's too wise to attribute the whole affair to just Mr. Steele's predilections. His poor judgment certainly, but c'mon! I really don't think he went into that place alone.

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No I will not.


I will more than likely vote for President Obama because it's my perogative.
:)

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Hey man,

You do realize that Steele has not misused or abused GOP funds for personal use?

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Newt has baggage. But with an image makeover he'll be fine. Newt is not afraid to get down and dirty and he's a conservative, that's one reason why I like him. However, the biggest reason why I like him is his policy work. The man is brilliant with it comes to policy writing and analysis. He is the orchestrator of the Constract With America and his book Winning the Future is a fantastic and inspiring read. He has more brains than Huckabee, McCain, and Palin combined.

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Steele didn't go. In fact he wasn't there and didn't know about it. After the story broke Steele fired staff who organized the event and emplimented tighter spending rules.

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you have my permission to call me what ever. Just dont stick your nose into Republican morality issues until you repudiate the whormongers in your own party.

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if things continue on the current course, the republicans will be in the same shape the dems were in 2008.

so long as the Rs run someone who can walk and chew gum at the same time they will win.

All this depends on the economy being what it is now, and the deficit being what it is projected to be.

If Obama changes course, then all bets are off. We dont generally like to oust a sitting president.

and while Newt has some issues, Huck has his own. He is a preacher and that in and of itslef becomes a road block to the whitehouse these days.

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Southern Republican Leadership Conference going on through tomorrow. Newt is great, I just don't always understand him. I didn't understand him during the Hoffman campaign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zXULhaynfg

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Mike Pence - The Constitution and the Presidency

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnoef...yer_embedded#!

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