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COOPER 04-27-2007 07:17 AM

Would you let an Ex-UPC, Not-standards keeping Pastor Baptize your converts?
 
Is it OK to let an EX-UPC, Non-Traditional UPC standards keeping Pastor to Baptize converts in Jesus Name???

Would you let him Baptized your Youth????

ChicagoPastor 04-27-2007 08:32 AM

so long as it's done in Jesus name

Steve Epley 04-27-2007 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 89774)
Is it OK to let an EX-UPC, Non-Traditional UPC standards keeping Pastor to Baptize converts in Jesus Name???

Would you let him Baptized your Youth????

Why would I do that????????????????? When I ahve good young preachers that would baptize converts????

Jack Shephard 04-27-2007 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 89831)
Why would I do that????????????????? When I ahve good young preachers that would baptize converts????

Epleyites????

Steve Epley 04-27-2007 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 89832)
Epleyites????

I hope not.

Bishop David Ellis told a story years ago he said he was driving in Detroit and a drunk nearly stepped in front of his car. He stopped and assisted the man into his car to take him home before the man got run over. He thought this is perfect time to be a personal witness. He said sir have you ever thought about changing your life and going to church. The man became indignent and said I goes to church I am one of Bishop Ellis' saints! He preached about what one of HIS saints would be.

BoredOutOfMyMind 04-27-2007 08:58 AM

Cooper, when in High School we did not attend a UPC church. Rather than have the AOG man baptize my friend wrong, I did it in our bathtub. Rather than them tell him he was saved, we proceeded to pray him through to the Holy Ghost in our Kitchen. We ended at near 3 AM.

BrotherEastman 04-27-2007 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 89774)
Is it OK to let an EX-UPC, Non-Traditional UPC standards keeping Pastor to Baptize converts in Jesus Name???

Would you let him Baptized your Youth????

Okay Cooper, I can't help myself, is there a reason you are asking? You aren't looking for another reason to be disgruntled at the UPCI are you?

Jack Shephard 04-27-2007 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 90019)
Okay Cooper, I can't help myself, is there a reason you are asking? You aren't looking for another reason to be disgruntled at the UPCI are you?

I think he is trying to ask you cons if you would allow another truth believer that did not have standards, but everything else, baptize in your church.

If you say no then you all would be much, much, much more conservative and judgmental than you already look.

Pragmatist 04-27-2007 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 89831)
Why would I do that????????????????? When I ahve good young preachers that would baptize converts????

Well, I have to agree with Bro. Epley here. Why would you have someone that didn't agree with your teachings baptize your converts? I'm not aware of any church that would do that.

Are you really asking if they think the baptism is valid if done by an ex-UPC, non-standards keeping pastor?

COOPER 04-27-2007 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 89831)
Why would I do that????????????????? When I have good young preachers that would baptize converts????

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Originally Posted by Pragmatist (Post 90176)
Well, I have to agree with Bro. Epley here. Why would you have someone that didn't agree with your teachings baptize your converts? I'm not aware of any church that would do that.

Are you really asking if they think the baptism is valid if done by an ex-UPC, non-standards keeping pastor?

Quote:

Is it OK to let an EX-UPC, Non-Traditional UPC standards keeping Pastor to Baptize converts in Jesus Name???
Is it OK to be baptized by a Ex-UPC non-standards keeping preacher?

It is a legit baptism??

:telephone

Charlie Brown 04-27-2007 01:22 PM

Only if faith was present

HeavenlyOne 04-27-2007 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 90199)
Is it OK to be baptized by a Ex-UPC non-standards keeping preacher?

It is a legit baptism??


:telephone

Nobody was ever saved by the condition of the heart of the baptizor.

It's the heart of the baptizee that makes the difference.

chosenbyone 04-27-2007 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 89774)
Is it OK to let an EX-UPC, Non-Traditional UPC standards keeping Pastor to Baptize converts in Jesus Name???

Would you let him Baptized your Youth????

How can he be an ex-UPC and Non-Traditional UPC standard keeper? There are UPC preachers that don't enforce standards and then there are ex-UPC preachers. Your question has two types of preachers listed.

I would have no problem with a non-traditional UPC standard keeper baptizing new converts, but I would have to know more about the ex-UPC preacher before I would feel comfortable having him baptize someone.

Barb 04-27-2007 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 90199)
Is it OK to be baptized by a Ex-UPC non-standards keeping preacher?

It is a legit baptism??

:telephone

Oh for Pete's sake...it's the Name that's legit...doesn't matter if he's a Hindu swami!!

Rhoni 04-27-2007 04:20 PM

If they are ex-UPCI but still in the faith then there is no problem...I agree with PO...it is the heart of the individual being baptized that is more importnat than who is doing the baptizing as long as it was in Jesus name.

Blessings, Rhoni

Rhoni 04-27-2007 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Barb (Post 90512)
Oh for Pete's sake...it's the Name that's legit...doesn't matter if he's a Hindu swami!!

:girlnails AMEN!

whollyHis 04-27-2007 05:34 PM

I know of a backslidden apostolic man that was in prison and baptized a fellow inmate in a laundry tub, after telling him of Jesus Name....and God revealed Himself to the inmate...was this legit?

BoredOutOfMyMind 04-27-2007 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by whollyHis (Post 90645)
I know of a backslidden apostolic man that was in prison and baptized a fellow inmate in a laundry tub, after telling him of Jesus Name....and God revealed Himself to the inmate...was this legit?

There are plenty of people baptized who do not have a full clue why.

Barb 04-27-2007 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by whollyHis (Post 90645)
I know of a backslidden apostolic man that was in prison and baptized a fellow inmate in a laundry tub, after telling him of Jesus Name....and God revealed Himself to the inmate...was this legit?

Absolutely...

whollyHis 04-27-2007 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 90650)
There are plenty of people baptized who do not have a full clue why.


I was referring to the baptizer, not the baptizee...(is that a word?) LOL

Barb 04-27-2007 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 90650)
There are plenty of people baptized who do not have a full clue why.

This is true...

CupCake 04-27-2007 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 89774)
Is it OK to let an EX-UPC, Non-Traditional UPC standards keeping Pastor to Baptize converts in Jesus Name???

Would you let him Baptized your Youth????

Yep~

RevDWW 04-27-2007 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 90199)
Is it OK to be baptized by a Ex-UPC non-standards keeping preacher?

It is a legit baptism??

:telephone

Is it the man that baptizes that makes it legit ? Or is it the One who you are buried with that makes it legit ?

Neck 04-27-2007 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 89832)
Epleyites????

Epleystines

Old Paths 04-27-2007 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind (Post 89851)
Cooper, when in High School we did not attend a UPC church. Rather than have the AOG man baptize my friend wrong, I did it in our bathtub. Rather than them tell him he was saved, we proceeded to pray him through to the Holy Ghost in our Kitchen. We ended at near 3 AM.



Good for you.

Old Paths 04-27-2007 10:14 PM

To hear some folks it wouldn't make any difference if Jeffery Dalmer was doing the baptizing.

RevDWW 04-27-2007 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Paths (Post 90770)
To hear some folks it wouldn't make any difference if Jeffery Dalmer was doing the baptizing.

Jeffery Dahlmer might put you in water, but he'd have thrown in some potatoes, carrots, and other veggies with you.........:crazy :winkgrin

Steve Epley 04-27-2007 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 90776)
Jeffery Dahlmer might put you in water, but he'd have thrown in some potatoes, carrots, and other veggies with you.........:crazy :winkgrin

Now there is a thought when being invited for dinner was a misunderstanding.

Old Paths 04-27-2007 10:31 PM

BROTHER Jeffery put that fork down.

Thumper 04-27-2007 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Paths (Post 90770)
To hear some folks it wouldn't make any difference if Jeffery Dalmer was doing the baptizing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RevDWW (Post 90776)
Jeffery Dahlmer might put you in water, but he'd have thrown in some potatoes, carrots, and other veggies with you.........:crazy :winkgrin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 90778)
Now there is a thought when being invited for dinner was a misunderstanding.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Paths (Post 90780)
BROTHER Jeffery put that fork down.

You guys are killing me here:ursofunny

Thumper 04-27-2007 11:01 PM

Why in the world would I let someone who has nothing to do with my church baptize new converts in my church!!!

Old Paths 04-27-2007 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 90807)
Why in the world would I let someone who has nothing to do with my church baptize new converts in my church!!!



because you are a nice guy?

Steve Epley 04-27-2007 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Thumper (Post 90807)
Why in the world would I let someone who has nothing to do with my church baptize new converts in my church!!!

Now there is a thought?

Thumper 04-27-2007 11:08 PM

If coop would just go to an exUPC, nonstandard keeping church it would be a step up

Brother Price 04-27-2007 11:10 PM

Why would anyone want to allow a backslider to baptize someone?

HeavenlyOne 04-28-2007 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhoni (Post 90514)
If they are ex-UPCI but still in the faith then there is no problem...I agree with PO...it is the heart of the individual being baptized that is more importnat than who is doing the baptizing as long as it was in Jesus name.

Blessings, Rhoni

That's HO....not PO.....LOL!

HeavenlyOne 04-28-2007 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Paths (Post 90770)
To hear some folks it wouldn't make any difference if Jeffery Dalmer was doing the baptizing.

Dahmer.....and if he were baptizing anyone, it would truly be a miracle!!!

Ronzo 04-28-2007 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne (Post 90874)
Dahmer.....and if he were baptizing anyone, it would truly be a miracle!!!

It'd be more like a marinade... or a brine... than a baptism...

HeavenlyOne 04-28-2007 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronzo (Post 90877)
It'd be more like a marinade... or a brine... than a baptism...

Someone else said something similar above.....LOL!

Of course, since he's long been dead, I guess we'll never know.....

Praxeas 04-28-2007 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by COOPER (Post 89774)
Is it OK to let an EX-UPC, Non-Traditional UPC standards keeping Pastor to Baptize converts in Jesus Name???

Would you let him Baptized your Youth????

Tit 3:8 The saying is trustworthy, and I want you to insist on these things, so that those who have believed in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works. These things are excellent and profitable for people.
Tit 3:9 But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.
Tit 3:10 As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him,
Tit 3:11 knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.

1Ti 6:3 If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness,
1Ti 6:4 he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions,
1Ti 6:5 and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.
1Ti 6:6 Now there is great gain in godliness with contentment,


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