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Monkeyman 04-09-2010 05:55 AM

Understand How Metrosexual Your Worship Leader is
 
Here is a quiz for you: I scored a 14 :thumbsup

Understanding How Metrosexual Your Worship Leader Is:
1. Has a faux hawk hair style = +1

2. Has more product in his hair than your wife = +1

3. Has Rob Bell, black rimmed glasses = +1

4. They are not prescription, but just for effect = +2

5. Attends the Catalyst Conference = +3

6. Performs at the Catalyst Conference = +10

7. Owns Puma, Vans or Diesel sneakers = +2 per each pair

8. Wears jeans on stage = +1

9. Wears designer jeans on stage = +2

10. Wears Wrangler or Rustler jeans on stage = -3

11. Has a goatee = +2

12. Wears one of those Castro revolution looking hats = +2

13. Drinks coffee on stage = +1

14. Drinks some kind of coffee you did not know existed = +2

15. Brings a French Press on stage and makes his own coffee during service = +5

16. Has a handlebar mustache = -3

17. Good at Frisbee but hates getting all “sweaty” = +1

18. Has a haircut that covers one of his eyes while singing = +1

19. Owns a white belt = +2

20. Owns suspenders = -3

21. Wears a scarf with a t-shirt = +1

22. Wears a winter knit hat even in the summer = +2

23. You think he covered a My Chemical Romance song last week = +3

24. Drives an Audi or VW, silver of course = +2

25. Uses the words, “postmodern, relevant” or “emergent” nonstop = +2

26. Cringes a little when people say the “H word.” (Hymnal) = +3

27. Has ever said some form of the phrase, “That song is so 1990s” = +1

28. Owns a Grizzly Adams red and black flannel shirt = -2

29. Named his kid after a color or a number = +2

30. References Norwegian punk bands you’ve never heard of = +2

31. Wears a tie = -1

32. Wears a tie as a belt = +2

33. Looks as if he might exfoliate = +2

34. Has a man bag or European Carry All = +2

35. Brings said bag on stage with him = +2

36. Has a tattoo = +2

37. Has a visible tattoo = +4

38. Wife accompanies him on stage and plays tambourine = -4

39. Was formerly in a punk new wave band = +2

40. Knows the names of all the people on the scripted MTV show, “the Hills” = +3

41. Refuses to drink anything but Vitamin Water = +2

42. Your wife ever says, “he needs a barrette for his hair.” = +2

43. Has a nickname with “the” in it, as in “the edge,” = +2

44. Owns every Nooma video = +2

45. Has a soul patch = +3

46. Won’t play barefoot on stage until he gets a pedicure = +2

47. Refers to California as “the left coast” = +2

48. Currently subscribes to Dwell or Details magazine = +2

49. Owns a pair of lady jeans = +2

50. Twitters you from his iPhone = +2

51. His toddler dresses cooler than you = +2

52. He wears graphic t-shirts over button down, long sleeve shirts = +2

53. Ever says “we got a hot mic here” = -4

54. Shops at the Gap = 0

55. Shops at Urban Outfitters = +2

pelathais 04-09-2010 06:01 AM

Re: Understand How Metrosexual Your Worship Leader
 
So how did you rate MM?

Monkeyman 04-09-2010 06:03 AM

Re: Understand How Metrosexual Your Worship Leader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 896089)
So how did you rate MM?

Only a 14 and I'm ok with that:)

n david 04-09-2010 06:38 AM

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20

SOUNWORTHY 04-09-2010 06:43 AM

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Guess I scored 0, is that good or bad? ;-)

mfblume 04-09-2010 08:17 AM

Re: Understand How Metrosexual Your Worship Leader
 
Metrosexual, a portmanteau of metropolitan and sexual, is a neologism of the 2000s one definition of which is a man (especially one living in a post-industrial, capitalist culture) who has a strong concern for his appearance or a lifestyle that displays attributes stereotypically associated with homosexual men.

(I hope no one scores above 0. lol)

NewWine 04-09-2010 08:53 AM

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I really really dislike this word...it gives me the creeps. Seriously, just look at #42 his wife says"he needs a barrette for his hair" and #49 "owns a pair of lady jeans"...to me this is just a pop-culture term for homo & bi sexuals. This is not a term for a man of God, let alone any man within the body of Christ.

oletime 04-09-2010 09:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 896090)
Only a 14 and I'm ok with that:)

Things are going downhill in NB faster than i thought .:foottap

RandyWayne 04-09-2010 10:05 AM

Re: Understand How Metrosexual Your Worship Leader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 896142)
Metrosexual, a portmanteau of metropolitan and sexual, is a neologism of the 2000s one definition of which is a man (especially one living in a post-industrial, capitalist culture) who has a strong concern for his appearance or a lifestyle that displays attributes stereotypically associated with homosexual men.

(I hope no one scores above 0. lol)

Well YOU did just with the goatee! And you've never referred to CA as "the Left coast"?

I didn't see anything about Hawaiian shirts on there.....
("Sure they may not be made in Hawaii, but Taiwan is an island too!")

MissBrattified 04-09-2010 10:51 AM

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Yeah...I think we all know an effeminate man when we see one. Just FYI, not all those things on the list are bad in and of themselves, but it's really the behavior that lends itself to the overall picture.

Last time I checked, acting like a girl was just as bad as being a homosexual. (Biblically speaking)

deltaguitar 04-09-2010 10:55 AM

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I got a zero.

MissBrattified 04-09-2010 11:03 AM

Re: Understand How Metrosexual Your Worship Leader
 
My husband would get a very low score...except that I think he has worn jeans to church before. I think they were Levi's, so I'm not sure that counts. :D

I tried to get him to wear a nice wool scarf with his overcoat, and he refuses. Personally, I like the little Panama type hats (I'm assuming we're talking about the type of hat pictured below), and I don't think they feminine at all.

http://createdintheattic.files.wordp.../07/fedora.jpg

n david 04-09-2010 11:11 AM

Re: Understand How Metrosexual Your Worship Leader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 896207)
My husband would get a very low score...except that I think he has worn jeans to church before. I think they were Levi's, so I'm not sure that counts. :D

I tried to get him to wear a nice wool scarf with his overcoat, and he refuses. Personally, I like the little Panama type hats (I'm assuming we're talking about the type of hat pictured below), and I don't think they feminine at all.

http://createdintheattic.files.wordp.../07/fedora.jpg

I believe the [Castro revolution looking] hat mentioned is this:

http://www.bobcesca.com/images/palin_castro.jpg

I like those hats, but I don't have one.

Truthseeker 04-09-2010 11:19 AM

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Don't know about this test, but don't like the sissified look in church.

Praxeas 04-09-2010 12:42 PM

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I thought a metro sexual was someone that dressed sharp and got pedicures

Sam 04-09-2010 01:48 PM

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Again, I guess it's an age thing but I don't even know what lot of that stuff is.

dizzyde 04-09-2010 02:02 PM

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I think it's hysterical!! :ursofunny

Our CHOIR leader would probably get a minus 10, and our WORSHIP leader is a girl, but I am pretty sure her husband would rate about a 15 or 20! (He is my BOL and I know he is very confident in his masculinity and would have no problem with me saying that! LOL)

mfblume 04-09-2010 02:52 PM

Re: Understand How Metrosexual Your Worship Leader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 896190)
Well YOU did just with the goatee!

Come on, what could be more masculine than a beard? Shaven faces would technically be more "metrosexual". Whew.

Quote:

And you've never referred to CA as "the Left coast"?
No.

At any rate, there's no excuse for a man to act sissified.

Ferd 04-09-2010 02:55 PM

Re: Understand How Metrosexual Your Worship Leader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 896142)
Metrosexual, a portmanteau of metropolitan and sexual, is a neologism of the 2000s one definition of which is a man (especially one living in a post-industrial, capitalist culture) who has a strong concern for his appearance or a lifestyle that displays attributes stereotypically associated with homosexual men.

(I hope no one scores above 0. lol)


having a gotee scores you a 2!

mfblume 04-09-2010 02:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 896249)
having a gotee scores you a 2!

My beard grows off to the sides. :p

Pressing-On 04-09-2010 04:56 PM

Re: Understand How Metrosexual Your Worship Leader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 896207)
My husband would get a very low score...except that I think he has worn jeans to church before. I think they were Levi's, so I'm not sure that counts. :D

I tried to get him to wear a nice wool scarf with his overcoat, and he refuses. Personally, I like the little Panama type hats (I'm assuming we're talking about the type of hat pictured below), and I don't think they feminine at all.

http://createdintheattic.files.wordp.../07/fedora.jpg

Bogart's hat is a classic "Fedora".

This is a Panama Hat:

http://www.panamahatsdirect.com/Images/havana.jpg

A Fedora hat is basically made of felt. A Panama hat can have a "Fedora" style, but they are made from the plaited leaves of a Carludovica palmata, which is a toquilla straw plant.

I have a Fedora hat in my closet. ;) But, I am looking for a very nicely woven Panama Hat. They are hard to find locally. I want a very fine weave.

And, BTW, Metrosexual men turn me off - like totally!

Praxeas 04-09-2010 08:18 PM

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Im not a music leader but I got a minus 1

RandyWayne 04-09-2010 09:59 PM

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I would add the following questions to the quiz.

Do you like the NFL? -5

Do you like soccer? +2

Do you like watching ladies fight/box/mud wrestle? -10

Do you like techno music? +2

Do you like country rock music? -2

Do you drive a Prius? +5

Do you enjoy any of the Rocky movies? -5

Jeffrey 04-09-2010 10:02 PM

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Who defines what is "sissy" and what is "manly?"

MissBrattified 04-09-2010 10:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffrey (Post 896331)
Who defines what is "sissy" and what is "manly?"

Washing dishes for your wife? That's manly. Having a prissy hissy fit because the soapy water ruined your designer silk shirt? *Ahem* :coffee2

Anyway...is it necessary to define it? Have you ever met a man who acted like a girl? Prissy? I know some pretty manly men who wear designer jeans and have a faux hawk, so while the quiz is funny, it's not [all] that. BUT, if a man talks like a girl, gestures like a girl, walks like a girl and acts like a girl--we call that prissy.

I'd say that real men define what's manly and feminine women define what's prissy. When the lines get crossed, it's obvious to everyone in the vicinity.

IMO, there's a difference between prissy and a "sissy." I call a coward a sissy. That's not an admirable quality, but it's not quite the same as being prissy. (effeminate)

Jeffrey 04-09-2010 10:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 896338)
Washing dishes for your wife? That's manly. Having a prissy hissy fit because the soapy water ruined your designer silk shirt? *Ahem* :coffee2

Anyway...is it necessary to define it? Have you ever met a man who acted like a girl? Prissy? I know some pretty manly men who wear designer jeans and have a faux hawk, so while the quiz is funny, it's not [all] that. BUT, if a man talks like a girl, gestures like a girl, walks like a girl and acts like a girl--we call that prissy.

I'd say that real men define what's manly and feminine women define what's prissy. When the lines get crossed, it's obvious to everyone in the vicinity.

IMO, there's a difference between prissy and a "sissy." I call a coward a sissy. That's not an admirable quality, but it's not quite the same as being prissy. (effeminate)

Darn. Was hoping that washing the dishing thing would be feminine. Us men need to take back the culture haha.

My point is, you, me, CULTURE defines masculine and feminine. Which is why you suggest "it doesn't need defining." Well, it doesn't to you or I, but my question wasn't to define it, but rather pointed to WHO or WHAT defined it, because any review of history will show that it obviously changes.

RandyWayne 04-09-2010 10:20 PM

Re: Understand How Metrosexual Your Worship Leader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 896338)
Washing dishes for your wife? That's manly. Having a prissy hissy fit because the soapy water ruined your designer silk shirt? *Ahem* :coffee2

Anyway...is it necessary to define it? Have you ever met a man who acted like a girl? Prissy? I know some pretty manly men who wear designer jeans and have a faux hawk, so while the quiz is funny, it's not [all] that. BUT, if a man talks like a girl, gestures like a girl, walks like a girl and acts like a girl--we call that prissy.

I'd say that real men define what's manly and feminine women define what's prissy. When the lines get crossed, it's obvious to everyone in the vicinity.

IMO, there's a difference between prissy and a "sissy." I call a coward a sissy. That's not an admirable quality, but it's not quite the same as being prissy. (effeminate)

Ya, your right. Usually the type of cloths and other adornments including hair styling is more an issue of wealth rather than an indication of the "manliness" of a guy. I am sure John Wayne didn't go to a $5 barber (of course, maybe he did... I don't know).

And I don't consider being prissy all that attractive in a woman either. Granted, it is easier to stomach then when a man is, but I do not care for either. LOL

Pressing-On 04-09-2010 10:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 896341)
Ya, your right. Usually the type of cloths and other adornments including hair styling is more an issue of wealth rather than an indication of the "manliness" of a guy. I am sure John Wayne didn't go to a $5 barber (of course, maybe he did... I don't know).

And I don't consider being prissy all that attractive in a woman either. Granted, it is easier to stomach then when a man is, but I do not care for either. LOL

John Wayne wore a toupee. LOL!

MissBrattified 04-09-2010 10:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffrey (Post 896340)
Darn. Was hoping that washing the dishing thing would be feminine. Us men need to take back the culture haha.

My point is, you, me, CULTURE defines masculine and feminine. Which is why you suggest "it doesn't need defining." Well, it doesn't to you or I, but my question wasn't to define it, but rather pointed to WHO or WHAT defined it, because any review of history will show that it obviously changes.

No, I don't think culture really defines it. Femininity & masculinity are innate. Science has proven that boys and girls are different from birth, in both personality and behavior. (And the way they use their brains.)

Culture may enhance it in certain ways, but pretty much I can tell a manly man no matter what culture he's from and vice versa. Manly men are just as obvious in Scotland as they are in the USA. Feminine women are just as easy to spot in India as they are in China.

The outward trappings aren't what make a person truly masculine or feminine, although it certainly contributes. It's more behavioral. The trappings are only reflective of a leaning one way or the other.

MissBrattified 04-09-2010 10:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 896341)
...And I don't consider being prissy all that attractive in a woman either. Granted, it is easier to stomach then when a man is, but I do not care for either. LOL

Totally agree with you. Strength is a character trait--not a point of gender distinction.

Sam 04-09-2010 10:47 PM

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I remember reading something that a woman said one time about the men she would date. She refused to date a man who:
had longer hair than she did,
who wore more jewelry than she did,
who smelled better than she did.

maybe that was her definition of sissy or effeminate

Praxeas 04-09-2010 10:49 PM

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real men were skirts

http://www.solarnavigator.net/films_...ttish_kilt.jpg

Sam 04-09-2010 10:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 896338)
Washing dishes for your wife? That's manly. ...

I don't know about washing dishes but 2 Kings 21:13 in the KJV has God saying, "I will wipe Jerusalem as a man wipeth a dish, wiping it, and turning it upside down." That sounds like He's talking about a man washing or drying a dish.

RandyWayne 04-09-2010 10:56 PM

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When I think of manly, I think of a combination of:

John Wayne
Mike Holmes
and a bit of James Bond.

Praxeas 04-09-2010 10:57 PM

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http://hollywooddame.com/wp-content/...-in-tights.jpg

MissBrattified 04-09-2010 10:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 896358)
I don't know about washing dishes but 2 Kings 21:13 in the KJV has God saying, "I will wipe Jerusalem as a man wipeth a dish, wiping it, and turning it upside down." That sounds like He's talking about a man washing or drying a dish.

:D I just didn't want that to be ruled out as a purely feminine activity.

Something funny...my husband smoked two briskets today, and used some new metal catering pans to catch the drippings. Normally he uses the disposable aluminum roasting pans, but he acquired these pans a couple of weeks ago, and seemed rather proud of them.

The pans were covered with greasy drippings, black smoke residue and burnt bits of rub, and he put them in the kitchen sink. I asked him to wash them, and he said, "Well, I guess I will if you won't." :rolleyes2 [LOL] I told him I really didn't want to get the black grease all over me, so he agreed to wash them.

I left the kitchen, and a few minutes later he came in the bedroom and said, "I threw the pans away." :toofunny :toofunny :toofunny

Praxeas 04-09-2010 10:59 PM

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manly men
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc1am3KyYgA

RandyWayne 04-09-2010 11:10 PM

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Or, a few actors around REAL men. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADARBPqldsA

Jeffrey 04-10-2010 02:31 AM

Re: Understand How Metrosexual Your Worship Leader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 896352)
No, I don't think culture really defines it. Femininity & masculinity are innate. Science has proven that boys and girls are different from birth, in both personality and behavior. (And the way they use their brains.)

Culture may enhance it in certain ways, but pretty much I can tell a manly man no matter what culture he's from and vice versa. Manly men are just as obvious in Scotland as they are in the USA. Feminine women are just as easy to spot in India as they are in China.

The outward trappings aren't what make a person truly masculine or feminine, although it certainly contributes. It's more behavioral. The trappings are only reflective of a leaning one way or the other.

No, pretty much culture defines what behaviors are acceptable for boys and girls. That's not saying there aren't physiological "innate" differences.

If it's behavioral, that only further proves that behaviors are learned.

This is the nature vs. nurture, which I don't believe is an either/or but a both/and. However, the list that is featured on this post is definitely ALL culturally defined. Nothing innate there.

Ev. Duane Williams 04-10-2010 10:17 AM

Re: Understand How Metrosexual Your Worship Leader
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 896329)
I would add the following questions to the quiz.

Do you like the NFL? -5

Do you like soccer? +2

Do you like watching ladies fight/box/mud wrestle? -10

Do you like techno music? +2

Do you like country rock music? -2

Do you drive a Prius? +5

Do you enjoy any of the Rocky movies? -5

Well, that takes me from a 12 down to a -10, so thanks.


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