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n david 04-15-2010 02:01 PM
Worse Than Tiger Woods
 
Ben Roethlisberger ... scumbag.

Has twice now been accused of sexual assault against women. He's lucky to be free not facing charges for either alleged assault.

The details from the latest one is sickening...

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In 572 pages of documents released Wednesday, Nicole Biancofiore told investigators from the Georgia Bureau of Investigations that her friend, a student at Georgia College & State University, "was dragged by a bodyguard to the back room in Capital [City, a local nightclub]. She was extremely intoxicated and not aware of what was happening."

"He had sex w/me and meanwhile his bodyguards told my friends they couldn't pass them to get to me," the accuser wrote in her statement, which was reported in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
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In the Milledgeville incident, Roethlisberger was out drinking with friends to celebrate his 28th birthday and bumped into the student and her sorority sisters throughout the night. They linked up at Capital City, where he invited them to a VIP section and bought them a round of shots.

Later, the accuser said Roethlisberger had sex with her in a bathroom adjacent to the VIP room.

Another friend of the accuser, Aliesha Scholten, told investigators that she tried to open the locked door, but "she was taken away by a bodyguard of Ben's."

A third friend, Ann Marie Lubatti, told police, that she "approached the other security guard and told him that she [the accuser] was in no shape to be back there with Ben Roethlisberger. He couldn't look me in the eye, and told me he didn't know what was going on. My friend went to open the door, and it was locked."
Now I don't want to assume or imply anything, namely that NFL Commish Goodell isn't handling this the same as other accusations against black players ... but thus far Roethlisberger has been untouched, even though he barely slipped out of being charged with the latest accusation. And he's still facing a lawsuit with the first accusation.

I hope the dirtbag gets suspended several games, if not by Goodell and the NFL, at least by the Steelers organization. I have several friends who are Steelers fans and they're sick of his off-the-field troubles.

Goodell better use the iron fist with this as he has with other players, otherwise it will do more than just appear that he deals penalties by race.

Source

Ferd 04-15-2010 03:24 PM
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There are problems with your position on this.

First, Ben has not been charged in either case. complaint filed is no indication of a crime. When investagated, nither incident generated enough evidence to even take it to a grand jury. (this is far from "barely escaped being charged")

Second, Ben is not married. He is single.

Now, where you and I agree is that he is a dirtbag for having sex in night clubs with drunk chicks. period. end of discussion.

But in all the cases that Goodell has taken action, there has been at the very least an indictmentn.

seguidordejesus 04-15-2010 03:43 PM
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The worst part is that he plays for the Steelers.

notofworks 04-15-2010 03:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 898900)
There are problems with your position on this.

First, Ben has not been charged in either case. complaint filed is no indication of a crime. When investagated, nither incident generated enough evidence to even take it to a grand jury. (this is far from "barely escaped being charged")

Second, Ben is not married. He is single.

Now, where you and I agree is that he is a dirtbag for having sex in night clubs with drunk chicks. period. end of discussion.
......IF he did it. We don't know that yet.

ManOfWord 04-15-2010 06:40 PM
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Innocent until proven guilty. Still, if he is doing these things, I have zero respect for him even if he can put a football in the hands of a receiver. D:

yisroelm 04-15-2010 07:05 PM
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I have zero use for organized sports... it sets men up to live a life in the flesh. But this needs to go a court of law and viable witnesses need to be brought..... on this I have to agree with MOW. May the Righteous Judge guide the Judicial process is my humble prayer.

Bottom Line Organized Sports is a worthless waste of money and talent. Spend time in the Word with your family and stop lining the pockets of talented men that need to get a hold of God.

notofworks 04-15-2010 07:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yisroelm (Post 899042)
I have zero use for organized sports... it sets men up to live a life in the flesh. But this needs to go a court of law and viable witnesses need to be brought..... on this I have to agree with MOW. May the Righteous Judge guide the Judicial process is my humble prayer.

Bottom Line Organized Sports is a worthless waste of money and talent. Spend time in the Word with your family and stop lining the pockets of talented men that need to get a hold of God.

Hmmm.....I wonder why Paul often used those awful organized worldly sports as an analogy. He must've been confused.

Jason B 04-15-2010 08:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 899054)
Hmmm.....I wonder why often used those awful organized worldly sports as an analogy. He must've been confused.
I think NOW meant he wonders why PAUL often used those wordly sports as an anology. Good question. Some commentators suggest with Pauls knowledge of such things that He even *gasp* attended the olypic style games.

Really, its not like he was learning about the training and rules and regulations of running, wrestling, etc through Google or Sports Center.

In his time to have the knowledge he had, he would have to at least be a "casual fan" of sports-it would seem.:Nhl_check

notofworks 04-15-2010 08:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Badejo (Post 899128)
I think NOW meant he wonders why PAUL often used those wordly sports as an anology. Good question. Some commentators suggest with Pauls knowledge of such things that He even *gasp* attended the olypic style games.

Really, its not like he was learning about the training and rules and regulations of running, wrestling, etc through Google or Sports Center.

In his time to have the knowledge he had, he would have to at least be a "casual fan" of sports-it would seem.:Nhl_check


:ursofunnyYep, I did. My computer made a mistake. I fixed it. Thanks!:)

Ferd 04-16-2010 08:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 898940)
......IF he did it. We don't know that yet.
oh we know he was having sex in the night club bathroom. and we know he has dont this more than once. There is no question about that.


However, we dont know if it was rape and from all indications it was not.

Just because big Ben isnt a rapist, doesnt mean he isnt a dirtbag.

At least he isnt a dirtbag cheating on his wife.

Ferd 04-16-2010 08:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yisroelm (Post 899042)
I have zero use for organized sports... it sets men up to live a life in the flesh. But this needs to go a court of law and viable witnesses need to be brought..... on this I have to agree with MOW. May the Righteous Judge guide the Judicial process is my humble prayer.

Bottom Line Organized Sports is a worthless waste of money and talent. Spend time in the Word with your family and stop lining the pockets of talented men that need to get a hold of God.

Being a successfull businessman does the exact samething.

organized sports is not the debble. good grief. for evey Ben Rothlessburger, there are 50 guys like Mark Brunel or Darrin Woodson who are fantastic people that love their families and love God.

Get a grip.

n david 04-16-2010 08:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 898900)
There are problems with your position on this.

First, Ben has not been charged in either case. complaint filed is no indication of a crime. When investagated, nither incident generated enough evidence to even take it to a grand jury. (this is far from "barely escaped being charged")

Second, Ben is not married. He is single.

Now, where you and I agree is that he is a dirtbag for having sex in night clubs with drunk chicks. period. end of discussion.

But in all the cases that Goodell has taken action, there has been at the very least an indictmentn.
Goodell has, in the past, taken action before charges or indictments.

I would still say he barely escaped being charged. Lucky for BR, the state of GA sets a high bar for this kind of charge and the district attorney didn't move forward or take DNA evidence. Had it occured in another state, there may well have been charges filed.

Hopefully Ben wises up and learns his lesson, otherwise he may not be a Steeler much longer - from the way the team management was talking.

notofworks 04-16-2010 09:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 899334)
oh we know he was having sex in the night club bathroom. and we know he has dont this more than once. There is no question about that.


However, we dont know if it was rape and from all indications it was not.

Just because big Ben isnt a rapist, doesnt mean he isnt a dirtbag.

At least he isnt a dirtbag cheating on his wife.

No, actually we don't know if he was having sex. Ben R says they didn't. And no, we don't know that he's done this before. The Reno situation never made it to the point of charges being filed and it's now a civil matter.

Is it possible that Rothlisberger fooled around with a woman in Reno and was taken advantage because of his wealth and celebrity? I think we, at least, have to consider the possibility. And because of this incident, did an opportunistic young lady in Georgia, where Ben is well known, grabbed the opportunity to capitalize on the Reno incident? I think it's absolutely possible. Just remember the Duke LaCrosse team incident. This girl in Georgia dropped out of school the next day. Hmmm....maybe because she knew a financial windfall would be coming?

So far, we don't know ANYTHING for sure in all this and it's wise to let it all play out, although we'll probably never know the truth.

All that being said, if Ben, or anyone else, did exactly what he is accused of....forcing a drunk girl to have sex with him in a restroom....he should spend the rest of his life in prison.

Sam 04-16-2010 09:32 AM
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If the girl was as drunk as her friend says she was, could the sex be consensual?

If a person chooses to put themselves under control of drugs or alcohol and then kills some one while driving, they cannot plead that they were not responsible because they were not in control. Could that same principle be applied to sex/rape?

Twisp 04-16-2010 09:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n david (Post 898779)
Ben Roethlisberger ... scumbag.

Has twice now been accused of sexual assault against women. He's lucky to be free not facing charges for either alleged assault.

The details from the latest one is sickening...





Now I don't want to assume or imply anything, namely that NFL Commish Goodell isn't handling this the same as other accusations against black players ... but thus far Roethlisberger has been untouched, even though he barely slipped out of being charged with the latest accusation. And he's still facing a lawsuit with the first accusation.

I hope the dirtbag gets suspended several games, if not by Goodell and the NFL, at least by the Steelers organization. I have several friends who are Steelers fans and they're sick of his off-the-field troubles.

Goodell better use the iron fist with this as he has with other players, otherwise it will do more than just appear that he deals penalties by race.

Source
He is going to discipline him, reports say that he is waiting until after the draft. The Rooney's will suspend him even if the commissioner doesn't, although he will.

Twisp 04-16-2010 09:53 AM
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But I do agree that the facts point to him taking advantage of her, which is reprehensible. On the first allegation he has counter-sued the other party, don't think he has in this one.

Ferd 04-16-2010 09:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 899362)
No, actually we don't know if he was having sex. Ben R says they didn't. And no, we don't know that he's done this before. The Reno situation never made it to the point of charges being filed and it's now a civil matter.

Is it possible that Rothlisberger fooled around with a woman in Reno and was taken advantage because of his wealth and celebrity? I think we, at least, have to consider the possibility. And because of this incident, did an opportunistic young lady in Georgia, where Ben is well known, grabbed the opportunity to capitalize on the Reno incident? I think it's absolutely possible. Just remember the Duke LaCrosse team incident. This girl in Georgia dropped out of school the next day. Hmmm....maybe because she knew a financial windfall would be coming?

So far, we don't know ANYTHING for sure in all this and it's wise to let it all play out, although we'll probably never know the truth.

All that being said, if Ben, or anyone else, did exactly what he is accused of....forcing a drunk girl to have sex with him in a restroom....he should spend the rest of his life in prison.
NOW, I suspect the Reno thing was all about some girl trying to cash out. I dont think Ben did anything illegal there.

I suspect the same thing happned this second time.

however both of these require that Ben be doing something that people with some morality dont do. period.

Shame on Ben for being stupid.

n david 04-16-2010 10:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 899420)
NOW, I suspect the Reno thing was all about some girl trying to cash out. I dont think Ben did anything illegal there.

I suspect the same thing happned this second time.

however both of these require that Ben be doing something that people with some morality dont do. period.

Shame on Ben for being stupid.
I don't believe the girl in the newest accusation has filed a suit or is just after his money. Could be wrong ... will know if she does decide to sue.

And yes, Ben should wise up, clean up and be a little more responsible.

Luckily for him, the DA wasn't like the one who went after the Duke players.

notofworks 04-16-2010 10:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 899420)
NOW, I suspect the Reno thing was all about some girl trying to cash out. I dont think Ben did anything illegal there.

I suspect the same thing happned this second time.

however both of these require that Ben be doing something that people with some morality dont do. period.

Shame on Ben for being stupid.

I don't disagree. The "party life" can be a dangerous place and if one plays with it, there can be consequences, especially if one happens to be rich and famous.

Ferd 04-16-2010 02:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 899457)
I don't disagree. The "party life" can be a dangerous place and if one plays with it, there can be consequences, especially if one happens to be rich and famous.
how strange is it that we live in a world that is vastly more immoral than it was 50 years ago, but you would have never even heard about such alligations against Babe Ruth who was every bit as immoral as Ben seems to be.


kinda strange.

n david 04-16-2010 02:49 PM
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Knew I read this on ESPN ... just had to look a bit.

Two articles, both highlighting Goodell's quick action against black players and his slow, lazy stroll to some action against a white, 2-time Super Bowl, MVP QB.

The first:

Quote:
Certainly there were factors with Adam "Pacman" Jones and Michael Vick -- the most high-profile measuring sticks of how the NFL can enforce its code of conduct -- that prompted the commissioner to dole out punishments before they were convicted in a court of law. For openers, Jones had a long history of previous arrests and other run-ins and Vick had already been indicted in his dogfighting case; Roethlisberger hasn't been charged yet. But the only factor that matters to those African-Americans keeping close tabs on the Roethlisberger case is this: The commissioner didn't wait to meet with Jones and Vick when they had criminal investigations hanging over their heads. Every time a prominent black athlete is involved in a legal situation, it seems as if the long, lawful arm of Goodell is ready to react.
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The commissioner announced Jones' season-long suspension in 2007 less than two months after he was allegedly involved in an altercation and shooting outside of a Las Vegas strip club -- which was two months before Jones was officially charged by Vegas police and a week after Goodell brought Jones into his office for one of his infamous sit-downs. Jones accepted a plea deal for the Vegas incident in November 2007, which resulted in a suspended one-year prison sentence, probation and community service.
Source 1

Second article:
Quote:
Goodell is going to face even more scrutiny for his handling of the matter. He's been known to punish players in the past without the legal process running its course -- such as Adam "Pacman" Jones and Larry Johnson -- so he needs to show consistency in how he wields his personal conduct policy in this matter. It would be one thing if Roethlisberger had only one issue hovering over his head. Two claims of sexual assault should put him squarely within Goodell's crosshairs this time.
Source 2

The longer this drags on without an announcement, the worse it looks for Goodell. Regardless of a charge or the absence of such, clearly Ben has issues that need to be addressed and at minimum a seat on the bench for a few games - not just preseason games, either.

Twisp 04-16-2010 04:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n david (Post 899594)
Knew I read this on ESPN ... just had to look a bit.

Two articles, both highlighting Goodell's quick action against black players and his slow, lazy stroll to some action against a white, 2-time Super Bowl, MVP QB.

The first:





Source 1

Second article:

Source 2

The longer this drags on without an announcement, the worse it looks for Goodell. Regardless of a charge or the absence of such, clearly Ben has issues that need to be addressed and at minimum a seat on the bench for a few games - not just preseason games, either.
The situations:

Pacman Jones was arrested on 2 separate occasions before he was suspended, once for assault and felony vandalism in 2005 and once for disorderly conduct and public intoxication in 2006. He was placed on probation by a judge in each case. He was involved in an altercation in a Las Vegas strip club in February of 2007. He was charged with two felonies, but pled it down to a misdemeanor. So yeah, in June of 2007, after his 2ND altercation in a strip club in less than 5 months, there needed to be swift action taken.

Michael Vick pleaded guilty to federal charges in a dog fighting investigation in August 2007 and was suspended hours later.

Both cases involved players ALREADY CHARGED AND SENTENCED.

Roethlisberger's case involves two cases in which no charges were filed. He has counter-sued the first claim, so that would indicate that there might be something fishy about that claim.

Everyone already assumes that Goodell is going to suspend him, and the Rooney's have said that they will discipline him if Goodell doesn't go far enough.

Maybe, and this is a crazy idea, punishment should be thought out more for people that have not been charged with anything than it should for people that have already been convicted, regardless of race.

Ferd 04-19-2010 02:11 PM
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ESPN is reporting that Goodell is going to suspend big Ben.

Goodell in his own words "you dont have to be convicted or even indicted to be guilty of violating the leagues conduct policies."

notofworks 04-19-2010 02:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 900311)
ESPN is reporting that Goodell is going to suspend big Ben.

Goodell in his own words "you dont have to be convicted or even indicted to be guilty of violating the leagues conduct policies."

I'm just wondering what conduct policy they absolutely know for sure, he violated? What would it be, going to a nightclub? That seems to be the only thing, so far, that is undisputed.

Hey Ferd, aren't you a Cowboy fan?

Ferd 04-19-2010 02:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 900313)
I'm just wondering what conduct policy they absolutely know for sure, he violated? What would it be, going to a nightclub? That seems to be the only thing, so far, that is undisputed.

Hey Ferd, aren't you a Cowboy fan?
I am a cowboys fan!

Did you hear the police talking about the incedent in GA? Evidently they think Ben is a bad guy.

n david 04-19-2010 02:38 PM
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There was one policeman who resigned after the GA incident. He was there at the club, got his pic taken with Ben and admitted talking bad about the girl to Ben and others.

notofworks 04-19-2010 02:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 900329)
I am a cowboys fan!

Did you hear the police talking about the incedent in GA? Evidently they think Ben is a bad guy.

The only thing I noticed was the drunk owner of some team telling people Bill Parcells and Tim Tebow was a beeeeeeep.

Your thoughts?

Jermyn Davidson 04-19-2010 03:56 PM
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Ben has done nothing illegal.

The problem with comparing Ben to Vick and PacMan is multifaceted.

It is a matter of public record that Vick was warned by more than a few people to get out of dogfighting.

Didn't PacMan already have a record BEFORE anything ever went down?


This isn't matter of race at all.

Some people do things that are clearly immoral.

Somep people do things that are clearly illegal.

Some people do both, but our justice system is designed to prosecute people guilty of illegal actions, not immoral actions.


Personally, I think taking advantage of drunk girl is FAR MORE IMMORAL than dog fighting, but the facts show that Ben was immoral and Vick was illegal and immoral.

Of course both of them think (thought) they are untouchable anyway....

Ferd 04-20-2010 12:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 900343)
The only thing I noticed was the drunk owner of some team telling people Bill Parcells and Tim Tebow was a beeeeeeep.

Your thoughts?
my thoughts? They havent changed in 15 years. My team has the worst General Manager in football.

your point?

notofworks 04-20-2010 12:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 900740)
my thoughts? They havent changed in 15 years. My team has the worst General Manager in football.

your point?

:lolNow we totally agree!! I was raised a huge Cowboys fan. Then the college roommate of Jimmy Johnson bought the team and fired my hero, Tom Landry. The next day, I became a 49er fan!:) Now our team has the second worst GM in football. Wait a second.....we actually don't have a GM at the moment and the draft is Thursday. Uh oh.

n david 04-21-2010 09:00 AM
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4 - 6 month suspension, with a chance at less if certain requirements are met, per ESPN.

Source

notofworks 04-21-2010 09:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n david (Post 901265)
4 - 6 month suspension, with a chance at less if certain requirements are met, per ESPN.

Source

Isn't it 4-6 game suspension? I can't believe they're able to do this when he has never been arrested nor paid a single penny in judgments. He probably deserves it, but can they prove it? Wow.

Twisp 04-21-2010 09:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 901269)
Isn't it 4-6 game suspension? I can't believe they're able to do this when he has never been arrested nor paid a single penny in judgments. He probably deserves it, but can they prove it? Wow.
Yeah, it will probably be a 4 game suspension, not a 4 month suspension.

They can do this if someone keeps screwing up. The NFL is a brand and it is Goodell's job to protect the brand. Same way it is at any number of jobs. You keep screwing up, you get punished.

n david 04-21-2010 09:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 901269)
Isn't it 4-6 game suspension? I can't believe they're able to do this when he has never been arrested nor paid a single penny in judgments. He probably deserves it, but can they prove it? Wow.
:lol ... wups yah, I meant 4-6 GAME suspension. From the article it sounds similar to Michael Vicks conditional suspension where he'll have to meet with NFL people or go through some kind of treatment and if that's done the suspension will be lessened. Most think it'll end up being just a couple games.

As Goodell stated, their player policy doesn't need proof, charges, convictions, etc. They're expected to follow certain standards.

I like it. I'm glad Goodell and the NFL have expectations and standards for players to follow.

notofworks 04-21-2010 10:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by n david (Post 901281)
:lol ... wups yah, I meant 4-6 GAME suspension. From the article it sounds similar to Michael Vicks conditional suspension where he'll have to meet with NFL people or go through some kind of treatment and if that's done the suspension will be lessened. Most think it'll end up being just a couple games.

As Goodell stated, their player policy doesn't need proof, charges, convictions, etc. They're expected to follow certain standards.

I like it. I'm glad Goodell and the NFL have expectations and standards for players to follow.

Yeah, I'm not saying I disagree with it, it's just that the entire basis of this suspension is the word of one person. I just wouldn't want to have my life judged by one person's opinion of me.

Remember the Mike Tyson conviction for rape? He served 5 years in prison based on the testimony of one person. There was zero corroborating evidence. Did he do it? I'd be about 95% sure he did, based on what I know.

I just hate to see judgment handed to a person when the basis of that judgment is "We're pretty sure he did this."

But either way, Big Ben needs to stay at home at night for a while!:)

Twisp 04-21-2010 10:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 901314)
Yeah, I'm not saying I disagree with it, it's just that the entire basis of this suspension is the word of one person. I just wouldn't want to have my life judged by one person's opinion of me.

Remember the Mike Tyson conviction for rape? He served 5 years in prison based on the testimony of one person. There was zero corroborating evidence. Did he do it? I'd be about 95% sure he did, based on what I know.

I just hate to see judgment handed to a person when the basis of that judgment is "We're pretty sure he did this."

But either way, Big Ben needs to stay at home at night for a while!:)
Not quite true, this is the second instance of this within 2 years. Coupled with his motorcycle accident involving him not wearing a helmet from 2006, he has shown some poor judgement. How many goof-ups do you allow before you finally step in?

SOUNWORTHY 04-21-2010 10:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 898900)
There are problems with your position on this.

First, Ben has not been charged in either case. complaint filed is no indication of a crime. When investagated, nither incident generated enough evidence to even take it to a grand jury. (this is far from "barely escaped being charged")

Second, Ben is not married. He is single.

Now, where you and I agree is that he is a dirtbag for having sex in night clubs with drunk chicks. period. end of discussion.

But in all the cases that Goodell has taken action, there has been at the very least an indictmentn.
Glad I got that straight in my mind. It's proper to assult women if you aren't married. Now I feel a whole lot better!!:bliss

jfrog 04-21-2010 10:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SOUNWORTHY (Post 901334)
Glad I got that straight in my mind. It's proper to assult women if you aren't married. Now I feel a whole lot better!!:bliss
The part I liked the best was that she said she was too drunk to realize what he was doing. I'm sorry but unless you are passed out drunk you definetely realize what is happening around you and to you...

notofworks 04-21-2010 11:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisp (Post 901325)
Not quite true, this is the second instance of this within 2 years. Coupled with his motorcycle accident involving him not wearing a helmet from 2006, he has shown some poor judgement. How many goof-ups do you allow before you finally step in?

But in this case, it's the word of one person. The word of the other person didn't get him suspended. And clearly, this incident in Georgia would have been a money-grubber looking to take advantage of the first incident that took place.

Twisp 04-21-2010 11:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 901360)
But in this case, it's the word of one person. The word of the other person didn't get him suspended. And clearly, this incident in Georgia would have been a money-grubber looking to take advantage of the first incident that took place.
The suspension isn't because of just this one case. It is because of this case, the other case, and the poor judgement in regards to the motorcycle accident.


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