Jennifer Knapp officially comes "out"
 

Well, she has officially come out and states that she has had an 8yr relationship with another female. Read the story on the CNN web page.


http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Musi...ex.html?hpt=C2

Is she a woman of integrity or is she greatly deceived?

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Never heard of her until just now. No disrespect intended toward her artistic talent and commercial success, it's just that these folks don't really impact my life one way or the other.

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Or neither? Or both? I don't think the attributes are mutually exclusive. ;)

I don't know her, so I couldn't say.

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My son informed me this morning that today was "Gay Rights Awareness Day" at school. The "gay wads" (his words) were going around with tape over their mouths to symbolize something.

It took a bit of questioning before I was assured that this was definately NOT a school sponsored event; otherwise I'd be on the phone right now.

I've come to the realization that people will live their lives in ways that they are persuaded make the most sense. Often times, these same ways won't make any sense to me. As long as they can behave like ladies and gentlemen and refrain from aggresively recruiting acolytes to their cause, then I say, "Whatever!"

For those close to me or those who are so completely bored that that they might even listen to me I would challenge them on their decisions to "be gay." And, this is a decision. I choose how I express myself with my "partner" (my wife of almost 30 years). I chose how I behaved before I was married. I'm no "Superman;" yet I managed to find my way through an overly sexed society with my integrity intact.

Jennifer and others can find their way as well. I am saddened by her choices, but her choices don't really affect me or mine in any way. So, I wish her well and hope that she can find some happiness in this often painful world.

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Well I imagine her salvation is not in anyway a issue as long as she keeps believing.... :rolleyes2

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If we take the same logic some have used for Tiger Woods, one might say, "Well whaddaya know, we find out she's only human!"

I find that logic to be almost blasphemous. :D

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She never was saved according to you.

But then, according to you nobody was saved for over 1,700 years of the Church Age.

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Question for everybody: Is there anybody on AFF that knowingly fellowships practicing homosexuals and feels justified doing so?

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What does that have to do with the comment I made?

I also have never made that claim. People have always been moved upon by God and always will be.

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What is the definition of "fellowship" according to your definition? :D

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I wonder how many years it will be before gay marriage is as acceptable among evangelicals and Pentecostals as inter racial marriage has become over time.

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Quoting her here...

sounds familiar??? Like on another thread or something...

"I would rather be judged before God as being an honest human being," she said. "If I am in any way unpleasing in his sight, I can only hope and pray that he gives me the opportunity to find who I am supposed to be."

Perhaps the most telling clue to where Jennifer Knapp finds herself in life after so many years is contained in the title of her new album. It's called "Letting Go."

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You mean like Jesus did?

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What are you saying Esther??

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Well, I have no idea who she is. Maybe it's an age thing but I don't listen to "contemporary Christian music."

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I have before. I currently do not, because there are none in my workplace, but if there were, I would fellowship with them. The Bible doesn't forbid it, as far as I can tell.

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I stopped listening to ccm after Rich Mullins passed away.

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I do. Justified? Why would I need to feel justified about loving the same people God loves and spending time with them when He wants to spend time with them so desperately?

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Sam...I know of not ONE scripture that condemns interracial marriages. Not one. If you know one, please let me know what it is. However...

...the bible has many scriptures condemning homosexuality.

I think some minds are truly being 'seared with a hot iron'. Living for God seems to be a joke to some people...even those who at one time had the Holy Ghost.

God help us all...

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would it be ok if the rest of us went around with tape over our ears so we didnt have to "hear" their silence?

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good question

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We are not to "fellowship" the works of darkness. We are to show kindness but not condone sin. There is a difference. Scripture says Christ was "separate from sinners".

She will without doubt find a great many religous people who will assure her she will not be cast into Gehenna thereby affirming what her deceived heart wants to here.

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It does?

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Never mind. Found it. Hebrews 7:26. :thumbsup

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Scripture is amazingly full of instructions on who and what we are supposed to be and not to be.

[9] Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
[10] Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
[11] And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 1 Cor. 6:9-11

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For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens Heb. 7:26

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I was wondering the same thing. Depends on how you define "fellowship".

I have a co-worker that is homosexual and he doesn't hide it neither does he flaunt it.

I've ate lunch with him, we send emails back and forth, we've even texted! Imagine that!

He knows how I believe and hes respectful of that. But I don't run around telling him to go and sin no more nor do I treat him like he has a disease.

Sin is sin with God. Homosexuality is no worse to God than spreading lies yet we sure tend to want to alienate the one type of person but not the other.

Just my two cents.

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I vaguely remember hearing the name Jennifer Knapp years ago. I found it interesting that she just dropped out of Christian music and stayed out of sight and out of touch for 8 years until now.

I was sad to hear the news, thankful she did not live a double life and pulled out of gospel music when she started her relationship with this woman, and also thankful her new music is not on a gospel label nor considered gospel. She at least appears to have enough respect for evangelical Christians not to do that.

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Amen Bro. I would like to respond to these in more detail later but duty calls for tonight...in the form of Bible Study and my wifes famous roast chicken and dressing dinner with all the fixings.I wish all could attend.
This is going to open up the subject of the TRUE form of Restored Assembly Government; and discipline of unrepentant brethren. Sound exciting???
Stay tuned, and may God Bless our understanding and our obedience in this wicked hour.

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It does sound interesting. Also if CCI is right and she is out of Christian music thats a good thing. If she remained in much more chance for the young stuggling believers to make the wrong choice and try to live the saved life and for the world both following her example.

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By fellowshipping, if you mean being a neighbor and a decent person by talking and being civil - Yes I do.

By fellowshipping, if you mean going to church with them and saying they're OK like they are - No I do not.

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Yes, Jesus was separate from sinners and He was not of this world
but
He hung out with sinners
He was criticized for being a glutton and a wine bibber.

So,
His separation from sinners and His being not of this world did not mean He was isolated from them or physically separated from them.
He spent time with them, He hung out with them, yet He was not like them.

Separation is not isolation or withdrawing from, it is being among but being different in attitude.

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Hold the horses!! Interacial marriage doesn't even remotely ralate to same sex marriage.

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... and yet ...

Then all the tax collectors and the sinners drew near to Him to hear Him. And the Pharisees and scribes complained, saying, "This Man receives sinners and eats with them."

Luke 15:1-2

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The "problem" with inter-racial marriage was that it produced "mixed" offspring.

A homosexual coupling will not produce any offspring.

It really is "apples and oranges," but the Left is fond of this argument.

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We are? :blink

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Several have asked your definition of "fellowship" and you haven't answered yet. So I went the the official definition of "Fellowship" and I say a resounding, "Yes, absolutely." I especially had not problem "fellowshipping" with the gay surgeon who saved my son's life.

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Yeah... you send me emails and IM's all the time making that claim.

What I meant was that there are those who will make an appeal to the old racist laws against "mixed marriages" as being comparable to the present day resistance to "gay marriage."

That's what I'm saying is "apples and oranges."

A racially "mixed" marriage between a man and a woman will still produce offspring. That is what the racists of the past sought to avoid when they legislated against such marriages.

"Gay marriages" produce no offspring. They are being opposed, not on racist grounds, but on moral grounds.

Gays still have the fundamental rights of free association. They can live with and couple with whomever they choose. They are just currently (for the most part, there are some exceptions) having a societal sanction withheld from their unions in the form of a marriage certificate.

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I'm glad you're putting "mixed" in quotations. I can't STAND the term "Mixed Marriage". Every marriage is a mixed marriage. Every marriage includes a man and a woman (at least here in California, it does) and you can't get any more mixed than that.

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Ah. Gotcha.