Depression
 

What do you think of this?

http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blo...at-depression/


(the title of the thread should say "Depression")

Re: epression
 

No idea.

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Look again!!!!! I clicked the wrong button by mistake.

Re: epression
 

OK, just a typo. There are a couple of entries in the Urban Dictionary for epression, so wasn't sure. :)

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What do I think? I think it will be a few days before I watch these videos. :thumbsup

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But meanwhile (and the videos may correct my understanding), it seems to me that Christians won't be depressed. You all have joy unspeakable. (1 Peter 1:8) The fruit of the spirit is joy and peace (Galatians 5:22). You have power, love, and a sound mind (2 Timothy 1:7).

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The video is pretty long. Can you sum it up for us?

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Right, and Christians will never have broken bones, headaches, diabetes, nearsightedness, ED, cancer, etc. because God promised to take all sickness away

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Did He?

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And what's with "Restless Leg Syndrome?" That's a "syndrome?" I used to get smacked if I couldn't sit still. Now it's a "syndrome."

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I started a poll: http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=29608

Re: Depression
 

I wouldn't do it justice. It's mostly a testimony. Give it a listen when you have a moment.

I'm wondering how much of depression is caused by attacks of the enemy and us not guarding our hearts and how much of it is due to physiological problems like what this pastor will relate.

Re: Depression
 

I would say that nearly all depression (in the form were talking about here -not just feeling down from time to time or having a bad day) is psychological in nature and NOT the result of an "attack by the enemy". In fact, having a "bad day" shares almost nothing with real depression. The kind that makes you not want to get out of bed or makes you want to just crawl into a ball and die because nothing seems to matter.

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I have battled PMDD off and on.... it's very real, and completely brought on by shifts in hormone levels in my body.

Many other things can trigger very real depression. I get very frustrated when I hear people trying to make all depression "spiritual". It's NOT. It's very frequently something physical that is causing it.

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Exodus 23:25; Deuteronomy 7:15

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Oh yeah! And James 5:14-15.

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How does the enemy attack us and cause depression? I can understand the physiological aspects. I can also understand the life circumstances of someone who genuinely "sees" no hope in their life. The latter may just be a cognitive thing that a good coach or therapist may be able to get someone out of.

But how does the enemy "attack" us (Other than through other people)?

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Does one have to "hate" the nation of Israel in order to be sick?

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There have been two occasions in my life when I went through a period of depression and both were circumstantial. Once when I graduated from college, lived on my own with no real friends and no support system, and once after the birth of my daughter who was an extremely fussy baby and no one around to help me.

I don't know if I was clinically depressed or not, but taking meds never crossed my mind, because I knew it wasn't a chemical imbalance, but a bad situation.

Re: Depression
 

Yep. Clinical depression is a physiological condition, but it can have detrimental affects on the entire being (body, soul, spirit). As Tommy Nelson (the speaker) talked about, it can affect the mind, which then affects the way someone thinks, the way they process information and perceive their surroundings, etc. Although it is not caused by a "lack of faith", it can affect the faith of a believer, and the ol' enemy can try to take advantage of this.

Unfortunately, this condition is not understood by many Christians, including pastors. There is a stigma attached to it, and that's why many Christians who suffer from it don't seek the help they need.

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You may not believe it but the enemy puts thoughts in our minds like he did to Ananias and Sapphira. I believe the "fiery darts" of the enemy are thoughts and the battlefield is the soul/mind. If we listen to the lies of the devil, we will be defeated in our minds. Did you know that the devil can even steal truth from our hearts especially if we don't understand the truth being taught? (see the parable of the sower)

2 Cor 10: 3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: 4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) 5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

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That might work, but also partaking of the Lord's Supper unworthily can do it, too.

Re: Depression
 

My natural depression deepend greatly when I followed the "Men of God" who taught that emotional problems were of the devil.