Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 906911)

The only way BH can be onto something is if these pre-A beings were formerly angels and not human beings.

Originally Posted by TheLegalist (Post 906896)

It's not just his position it's been taught by many. Who knows but it is always interesting to talk about. Now whatever twist he puts on it.... that's his but pre-adamis races come mainly from different views on the gap theory.

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 906867)

I watched Benny Hinn last night for 2 full hours speak on Angels, Demons and pre Adamic civilization. According to BH there was a pre-Adamic civilization that later became demons.

He uses Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven oh Lucifer, son of the morning, how art thou cut down which didst weaken the nations. (among other verses) This is obviously talking about nations before Lucifer fell and we know that Lucifer had already fallen by the time Adam and Eve came on the scene. So who were "the nations"?

I don't understand how they became demons, unless they rebelled with Lucifer and were not offered redemption. BH differentiates from fallen Angels who have the power to materialize and have sex with women and produce the giants from genesis. He says their seed must have passed through the daughter-in-laws of Noah in order to explain giants after the flood.

BH also talked about 5 places in the underworld. Hell or sheol where the wicked dead are. Paradise where the righteous dead were. The pit where the pre-adamic race of demons are and are released according to the demand of sin by humans on earth. Taturus where the fallen angels are in prison. And the lake of fire which is currently empty.

BH also claims that the scorpion beasts of Revelation actually describe the half human half beast pre-adamic reace that are demons. With face of man, hair of woman, teeth like lion, tail like scorpion.

BH had much more to say if you are interested in watching online go to: tbn.org/watch us/ archives. (sorry my link button not showing up, so I couldn't post the link) And watch the May 3 PTL. Show will be archived for 1 month. Does anyone know how to rip video? I would like to archive for future use, please pm me. The show will also be replayed on TBN tonight at 5pm eastern. Reminder: Madonna Massey supposed to be on tonight at 10 eastern on PTL.

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 906912)

lol

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 907239)

2 hours huh? Were you bored or do you need your head examined? :ursofunny

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 907240)

What part of my post is so funny timmy? You don't believe in angels and demons?

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 907242)

I thought it was very interesting. I'm going to watch it again at 5 est. What is your opinion of a pre adamic race and who were the nations that lucifer did weaken?

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 906888)

From my studies and much prayer I believe that a lesser class of demons originated from Genesis 6.

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 907243)

Benny Hinn. Angels. Demons. Pre-adamic race. Etc. :winkgrin

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 907236)

I have heard both BH and John Hagee make a difference between fallen angels and demons. I don't have an explanation from Hagee but BH says that fallen angels had the ability to materialize and have sex with women while demons do not have bodies or perhaps did but do not have power to materialize and seek bodies to dwell in. The difference between fallen angels and demons in BH's view are bodies.

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 907266)

I heard something like that but disagree. And I do not believe the sons of God in Gen 6 were angels either. Just Sethites.


But I wondered if angelic beings were on earth before Adam who were the ones who fell and became devils/fallen angels (same thing in my mind).

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 907387)

I think the sons of God of Genesis 6:2 were humans from the lineage of those who were calling upon the Lord in Genesis 4:26. I believe those who were called the daughters of men were from the lineage of those who were not calling on the Lord. I believe the term giants does not necessarily pertain to physical stature but to men who were outstanding in evil, mighty men of evil.

If the teaching is that there was a pre-Adamic race of humans on the earth who were destroyed and when they died their spirits were released into the atmosphere and hung around for centuries or however long it was until Adam was created and then those disembodied human spirits came back to earth, that sounds like some kind of science fiction. If those were angels on earth who were cast out of heaven and they then hung around until the earth was recreated and came here as demons, I could see that.

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 907387)

I think the sons of God of Genesis 6:2 were humans from the lineage of those who were calling upon the Lord in Genesis 4:26. I believe those who were called the daughters of men were from the lineage of those who were not calling on the Lord. I believe the term giants does not necessarily pertain to physical stature but to men who were outstanding in evil, mighty men of evil.

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 907387)

If the teaching is that there was a pre-Adamic race of humans on the earth who were destroyed and when they died their spirits were released into the atmosphere and hung around for centuries or however long it was until Adam was created and then those disembodied human spirits came back to earth, that sounds like some kind of science fiction. If those were angels on earth who were cast out of heaven and they then hung around until the earth was recreated and came here as demons, I could see that.

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 907391)

why would fallen angels seek to dwell in bodies of humans or animals like pigs?

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 906867)

I watched Benny Hinn last night for 2 full hours speak on Angels, Demons and pre Adamic civilization. According to BH there was a pre-Adamic civilization that later became demons.

He uses Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven oh Lucifer, son of the morning, how art thou cut down which didst weaken the nations. (among other verses) This is obviously talking about nations before Lucifer fell and we know that Lucifer had already fallen by the time Adam and Eve came on the scene. So who were "the nations"?

I don't understand how they became demons, unless they rebelled with Lucifer and were not offered redemption. BH differentiates from fallen Angels who have the power to materialize and have sex with women and produce the giants from genesis. He says their seed must have passed through the daughter-in-laws of Noah in order to explain giants after the flood.

BH also talked about 5 places in the underworld. Hell or sheol where the wicked dead are. Paradise where the righteous dead were. The pit where the pre-adamic race of demons are and are released according to the demand of sin by humans on earth. Taturus where the fallen angels are in prison. And the lake of fire which is currently empty.

BH also claims that the scorpion beasts of Revelation actually describe the half human half beast pre-adamic reace that are demons. With face of man, hair of woman, teeth like lion, tail like scorpion.

BH had much more to say if you are interested in watching online go to: tbn.org/watch us/ archives. (sorry my link button not showing up, so I couldn't post the link) And watch the May 3 PTL. Show will be archived for 1 month. Does anyone know how to rip video? I would like to archive for future use, please pm me. The show will also be replayed on TBN tonight at ice5pm eastern. Reminder: Madonna Massey supposed to be on tonight at 10 eastern on PTL.

Originally Posted by Apocrypha (Post 907465)

Many ante-nicene church fathers used Enoch 1, The first portion called The Book of the Watchers.

They believed that demons were the souls of the Nephlim who weren't allowed to move on. Not that they were falled angels.