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allstate1 05-20-2010 09:41 AM

Just a question man??
 
Why in the UPCI can a preacher,pastor etc.... have a second wife but the deacons and/or board members must not be married but once??

jfrog 05-20-2010 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by allstate1 (Post 913171)
Why in the UPCI can a preacher,pastor etc.... have a second wife but the deacons and/or board members must not be married but once??

A deacon can be part of the UPCI or a board member? Here I was thinking someone had said it was a preachers only organization.

allstate1 05-20-2010 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 913176)
A deacon can be part of the UPCI or a board member? Here I was thinking someone had said it was a preachers only organization.

Clearer!!!! In a UPCI church!!!!

jfrog 05-20-2010 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by allstate1 (Post 913178)
Clearer!!!! In a UPCI church!!!!

Well the churches aren't UPCI either is what they told me.

But I assume you have a specific case of this happening in mind?

allstate1 05-20-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 913182)
Well the churches aren't UPCI either is what they told me.

But I assume you have a specific case of this happening in mind?

Its more than one case!! It even happens in the church next door to my house that is Southern Baptist!

rgcraig 05-20-2010 10:02 AM

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I think this is a gray area - - each church/pastor decides that.

jfrog 05-20-2010 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by allstate1 (Post 913190)
Its more than one case!! It even happens in the church next door to my house that is Southern Baptist!

The simple answer would appear to be that those churches really wanted a preacher with a 2nd wife to be their pastor so they made an exception for him but thought it wasn't something that they thought should be made common practice.

There is another way a pastor may be remarried and still be argued to legitamately pastor. A pastor may have gotten remarried before he got in church. Many churches and christians won't see this as a problem.

ManOfWord 05-20-2010 10:07 AM

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The vast majority of "UPC" churches are not UPC. What I mean by that is, a church is NOT UPC unless it becomes affiliated. If it becomes affiliated, then it is ultimately under the control/oversight of the District. Different districts exercise varying degrees of control. The oversight really comes into play when the pastorate is vacant or the church closes.

Now, what you're talking about is different. Sometimes a person was divorced before they were saved, and since the scripture states that judgment begins at the "house of God" most interpret that to mean that whatever happened before you were saved is under the blood and doesn't count. :D

Timmy 05-20-2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 913201)
The vast majority of "UPC" churches are not UPC. What I mean by that is, a church is NOT UPC unless it becomes affiliated. If it becomes affiliated, then it is ultimately under the control/oversight of the District. Different districts exercise varying degrees of control. The oversight really comes into play when the pastorate is vacant or the church closes.

Now, what you're talking about is different. Sometimes a person was divorced before they were saved, and since the scripture states that judgment begins at the "house of God" most interpret that to mean that whatever happened before you were saved is under the blood and doesn't count. :D

So, if you're saved, and you want to divorce and remarry, but don't want the restrictions, all ya gotta do is backslide, divorce, marry, get saved again, and voila! Deaconhood awaits!

iceniez 05-20-2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 913213)
So, if you're saved, and you want to divorce and remarry, but don't want the restrictions, all ya gotta do is backslide, divorce, marry, get saved again, and voila! Deaconhood awaits!

Logical however:nah

allstate1 05-20-2010 10:30 AM

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My grandfather was a pastor for years after being married to his second wife. In a seperate church my dad was offered a board position until the pastor realized he had been married before! My uncle was asked to step down from the sound tech b/c his wife left him!!!!!

Timmy 05-20-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by iceniez (Post 913221)
Logical however:nah

:D

oletime 05-20-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by allstate1 (Post 913235)
My grandfather was a pastor for years after being married to his second wife. In a seperate church my dad was offered a board position until the pastor realized he had been married before! My uncle was asked to step down from the sound tech b/c his wife left him!!!!!

Each to his own,and as far as your uncle is concerned maybe he didnt qualify, because as one preacher said "always put your weakest, most carnal people in the sound booth because they aint no one in there gonna be saved anyway !::neener:neener:neener

pelathais 05-20-2010 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by allstate1 (Post 913171)
Why in the UPCI can a preacher,pastor etc.... have a second wife but the deacons and/or board members must not be married but once??

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Originally Posted by allstate1 (Post 913178)
Clearer!!!! In a UPCI church!!!!

Even clearer still... "In a particular UPCI church?"

There are no positions called "deacon" or "local church board member" in the UPCI manual. Whatever you are seeing is a local rule and who knows why such a thing would be allowed to develop.

pelathais 05-20-2010 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by allstate1 (Post 913235)
My grandfather was a pastor for years after being married to his second wife. In a seperate church my dad was offered a board position until the pastor realized he had been married before! My uncle was asked to step down from the sound tech b/c his wife left him!!!!!

That's sad. A man can't even run the sound board if he is the victim of divorce?

Needless to say, some "pastors" have such hackneyed and ego driven rules and agendas that they defy all attempts are reasoning them out.

pelathais 05-20-2010 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by oletime (Post 913445)
Each to his own,and as far as your uncle is concerned maybe he didnt qualify, because as one preacher said "always put your weakest, most carnal people in the sound booth because they aint no one in there gonna be saved anyway !::neener:neener:neener

I overlooked that bit of wisdom. Thanks. :ursofunny

allstate1 05-20-2010 01:52 PM

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As best I can tell this is pretty much the rule in MS. and LA.!

Timmy 05-20-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by oletime (Post 913445)
Each to his own,and as far as your uncle is concerned maybe he didnt qualify, because as one preacher said "always put your weakest, most carnal people in the sound booth because they aint no one in there gonna be saved anyway !::neener:neener:neener

That explains everything! :ursofunny

ManOfWord 05-20-2010 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 913213)
So, if you're saved, and you want to divorce and remarry, but don't want the restrictions, all ya gotta do is backslide, divorce, marry, get saved again, and voila! Deaconhood awaits!

You've got it!! Pretty simple. :D


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