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CC1 04-29-2007 11:49 AM

How To Murder Your Husband & Get Away With It
 
Apparently justice is a thing of the past in my state of Tennessee.

Most of you probably read the thread or threads covering the Mary Winkler trial here. It was the case of the Church of Christ pastor's wife who killed her husband as he slept with a shotgun blast.

The force of the blast blew him out of the bed on the floor from which he looked up to his wife and said one word as he lay dying "Why?"

The latest news now is not only is Mary Winkler going to walk away with just time already served (a little less than a year) but NOW HER ATTORNEYS ARE FILING TO HAVE THE CONVICTION EXPUNGED FROM HER RECORD!!!!!!

So not only will this woman get off scot free with murder it won't even be on her record if the judge approves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

crakjak 04-29-2007 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 91924)
Apparently justice is a thing of the past in my state of Tennessee.

Most of you probably read the thread or threads covering the Mary Winkler trial here. It was the case of the Church of Christ pastor's wife who killed her husband as he slept with a shotgun blast.

The force of the blast blew him out of the bed on the floor from which he looked up to his wife and said one word as he lay dying "Why?"

The latest news now is not only is Mary Winkler going to walk away with just time already served (a little less than a year) but NOW HER ATTORNEYS ARE FILING TO HAVE THE CONVICTION EXPUNGED FROM HER RECORD!!!!!!

So not only will this woman get off scot free with murder it won't even be on her record if the judge approves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I thought she was convicted, what happened?

BrotherEastman 04-29-2007 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 91924)
Apparently justice is a thing of the past in my state of Tennessee.

Most of you probably read the thread or threads covering the Mary Winkler trial here. It was the case of the Church of Christ pastor's wife who killed her husband as he slept with a shotgun blast.

The force of the blast blew him out of the bed on the floor from which he looked up to his wife and said one word as he lay dying "Why?"

The latest news now is not only is Mary Winkler going to walk away with just time already served (a little less than a year) but NOW HER ATTORNEYS ARE FILING TO HAVE THE CONVICTION EXPUNGED FROM HER RECORD!!!!!!

So not only will this woman get off scot free with murder it won't even be on her record if the judge approves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Makes me glad to know that God is just, and no one will get by with anything.

Ron 04-29-2007 12:39 PM

I always had a hard time with the saying "not guilty by reason of insanity."
I am not saying that is the case here, but if one is guilty-they are guilty!
The penalies just are different.

This one sounds like a walk.

I wonderf if guilt will eat her up.

Steve Epley 04-29-2007 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 91924)
Apparently justice is a thing of the past in my state of Tennessee.

Most of you probably read the thread or threads covering the Mary Winkler trial here. It was the case of the Church of Christ pastor's wife who killed her husband as he slept with a shotgun blast.

The force of the blast blew him out of the bed on the floor from which he looked up to his wife and said one word as he lay dying "Why?"

The latest news now is not only is Mary Winkler going to walk away with just time already served (a little less than a year) but NOW HER ATTORNEYS ARE FILING TO HAVE THE CONVICTION EXPUNGED FROM HER RECORD!!!!!!

So not only will this woman get off scot free with murder it won't even be on her record if the judge approves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That means you and Painoman better Behave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lost 04-29-2007 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 91924)
Apparently justice is a thing of the past in my state of Tennessee.

Most of you probably read the thread or threads covering the Mary Winkler trial here. It was the case of the Church of Christ pastor's wife who killed her husband as he slept with a shotgun blast.

The force of the blast blew him out of the bed on the floor from which he looked up to his wife and said one word as he lay dying "Why?"

The latest news now is not only is Mary Winkler going to walk away with just time already served (a little less than a year) but NOW HER ATTORNEYS ARE FILING TO HAVE THE CONVICTION EXPUNGED FROM HER RECORD!!!!!!

So not only will this woman get off scot free with murder it won't even be on her record if the judge approves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God is not mocked. Eternity is a long time.

Steve Epley 04-29-2007 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost (Post 91951)
God is not mocked. Eternity is a long time.

Yes eternity will be a long time however she will be lost NOT for commiting murder but not accepting God's provision for sin in the shed blood by obeying the gospel.

CC1 04-29-2007 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by crakjak (Post 91925)
I thought she was convicted, what happened?

Convicted of mansalughter with a sentance range of something like 3-7 years with 50% of that off for good behaviour.

Because she had spent almost a year in prison at the time of the trial it was thought the rest of the sentance would be waived and she would just be on probation from her on out. At most a few more months in prison.

This latest move by her attorney's to have her conviction expunged from her record once her probation is over astounds and dismays me.

Why should someone who shot someone in cold blood as they slept be allowed to have a clear record as if the murder never happened?

CupCake 04-29-2007 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 91924)
Apparently justice is a thing of the past in my state of Tennessee.

Most of you probably read the thread or threads covering the Mary Winkler trial here. It was the case of the Church of Christ pastor's wife who killed her husband as he slept with a shotgun blast.

The force of the blast blew him out of the bed on the floor from which he looked up to his wife and said one word as he lay dying "Why?"

The latest news now is not only is Mary Winkler going to walk away with just time already served (a little less than a year) but NOW HER ATTORNEYS ARE FILING TO HAVE THE CONVICTION EXPUNGED FROM HER RECORD!!!!!!

So not only will this woman get off scot free with murder it won't even be on her record if the judge approves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The only thing I can think is maybe there more to the story, so not to bring out her husband embarrassing pass there not saying what really happen. Who knows~

CupCake 04-29-2007 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 92031)

Why should someone who shot someone in cold blood as they slept be allowed to have a clear record as if the murder never happened?


We should be asking the law maker why that is. Here you have someone who killed another yet they get a slap on the wrist, then you have someone who may mess up on their taxes they get years in the slammer. Guess money is valued more in this country then taken a life~

CC1 04-29-2007 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 91938)
That means you and Painoman better Behave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL!!! I posted this as a warning to all husbands!!!! Think twice before you say no to that new dress or piece of furniture the little lady wants.:hypercoffee

Sherri 04-29-2007 07:10 PM

Eddie just told me if I ever get tired of him, just to tell him and he will leave, but please DON'T SHOOT ME!!!

tamor 04-29-2007 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 92185)
Eddie just told me if I ever get tired of him, just to tell him and he will leave, but please DON'T SHOOT ME!!!


He jokingly asked me the other night why I was hard on Jon and I told him that if Mary could kill hers, I could beat mine up! :nutso

rgcraig 04-29-2007 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri (Post 92185)
Eddie just told me if I ever get tired of him, just to tell him and he will leave, but please DON'T SHOOT ME!!!

Lol!!!!

Ferd 08-14-2007 02:32 PM

well, she is now out and about to get her kids back!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/14...ain/index.html

Margies3 08-14-2007 02:55 PM

On what basis was she released?

Ferd 08-14-2007 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Margies3 (Post 215646)
On what basis was she release?

I didnt read all of it but evidently she has been cured of all her mental illness that led to her killing her husband to death.

Hegavmelif 08-14-2007 03:04 PM

1) She shot him in the back
2) He asked he "Why?"

Those two facts alone tell me something was not right with her. She had some other activities going on in her life and did not want to have to live up to a standard of living required by a ministers wife.

You will never convince me that that man did the things she said he did. The trial was all about the actions of a dead man and not the woman who killed him. Shame on the justice system!

MissBrattified 08-14-2007 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Margies3 (Post 215646)
On what basis was she released?

quotes from cbsnews:

"Winkler had been charged with first-degree murder, but jurors convicted her of the lesser charge after she testified that her husband abused her and demanded sex she considered unnatural.

She was given a three-year sentence but had to serve only 67 days in custody because of credit for time in jail before her trial, the nature of the offense and the fact that she had no previous criminal record. Under the terms of her sentence, she spent 12 days in jail and the rest of the time in a mental health facility.
"

CC1 08-14-2007 03:14 PM

This is one of the most grevious miscarriages of justice I have ever witnessed. There was not one iota of evidence that her husband ever abused her in any way.

There was plenty of evidence that she had put her family in a terrible situation through being taken in by one of those Nigerian internet scams. She had lost thousands of dollars, had overdrawn the family bank account by thousands of dollars, was kiting checks to try and cover that, etc, etc.

She knew that it was all about to come down around her and OF COURSE her husband was going to be or was furious at that situation. The laslt thing a pastor in a small town needs is his bank account overdrawn by thousands of dollars.

She "snapped" under all this pressure and shot and killed her husband in cold blood while he slept.

She deserved the death penalty and if not that at least life in prison with no possibility of parole.

I know that she will get her just reward some day but I hope that mystical concept of "karma" comes into play and she does not enjoy her freedom.

Hegavmelif 08-14-2007 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 215662)
This is one of the most grevious miscarriages of justice I have ever witnessed. There was not one iota of evidence that her husband ever abused her in any way.

There was plenty of evidence that she had put her family in a terrible situation through being taken in by one of those Nigerian internet scams. She had lost thousands of dollars, had overdrawn the family bank account by thousands of dollars, was kiting checks to try and cover that, etc, etc.

She knew that it was all about to come down around her and OF COURSE her husband was going to be or was furious at that situation. The laslt thing a pastor in a small town needs is his bank account overdrawn by thousands of dollars.

She "snapped" under all this pressure and shot and killed her husband in cold blood while he slept.

She deserved the death penalty and if not that at least life in prison with no possibility of parole.

I know that she will get her just reward some day but I hope that mystical concept of "karma" comes into play and she does not enjoy her freedom.

DITTO!!!!

BrotherEastman 08-14-2007 03:37 PM

Is there a legitamate legal system within our beloved country?

CC1 08-14-2007 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman (Post 215691)
Is there a legitamate legal system within our beloved country?

Texas!!!!

My former home state knows JUSTICE!!!

If you kill somebody in Texas they kill you right back!

seguidordejesus 08-14-2007 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 215702)
Texas!!!!

My former home state knows JUSTICE!!!

If you kill somebody in Texas they kill you right back!

Ha! We must be Jewish in Texas! (eye for eye)

sola gratia 08-14-2007 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 91953)
Yes eternity will be a long time however she will be lost NOT for commiting murder but not accepting God's provision for sin in the shed blood by obeying the gospel.

one track mind....

ILG 08-15-2007 02:35 PM

I believe she was abused, but I also think she is getting off too easy.

Ferd 08-15-2007 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 216831)
I believe she was abused, but I also think she is getting off too easy.

and what do you base that belief on?

her kiting checks?
her falling for an internet scam?
her overdrawing their bank account by $1000s?

or because she shot the guy in the back?


or was it because she got on the stand and contrary to every one else in the known world, said he was a bad guy?

retsambeW 08-15-2007 03:34 PM

Man, I thought this was a self help thread, and the only thing that went through my mind was:

Lord, don't let Sis. Jill see this one....


:D


Well, never judge a thread by it's cover! :D

Trouvere 08-15-2007 03:40 PM

Maybe Mary snapped.You all better watch your backs....tongues..etc.


:driving

ILG 08-15-2007 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 216843)
and what do you base that belief on?

her kiting checks?
her falling for an internet scam?
her overdrawing their bank account by $1000s?

or because she shot the guy in the back?


or was it because she got on the stand and contrary to every one else in the known world, said he was a bad guy?

I've seen enough in the domestic abuse shelter where I work to know that it is usually hidden from the public eye. That's the norm, not the exception. And I suspect the jury used good criteria in which to decide whether she was or not.

Praxeas 08-15-2007 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 91924)
Apparently justice is a thing of the past in my state of Tennessee.

Most of you probably read the thread or threads covering the Mary Winkler trial here. It was the case of the Church of Christ pastor's wife who killed her husband as he slept with a shotgun blast.

The force of the blast blew him out of the bed on the floor from which he looked up to his wife and said one word as he lay dying "Why?"

The latest news now is not only is Mary Winkler going to walk away with just time already served (a little less than a year) but NOW HER ATTORNEYS ARE FILING TO HAVE THE CONVICTION EXPUNGED FROM HER RECORD!!!!!!

So not only will this woman get off scot free with murder it won't even be on her record if the judge approves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mat 19:10 The disciples said to him, "If such is the case of a man with his wife, it is better not to marry."


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