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seekerman 05-29-2010 12:04 PM
To God Be The Glory
 
Anyone read "To God Be The Glory" by Joel Hemphill?

Sam 05-29-2010 02:11 PM
Re: To God Be The Glory
 
I didn't.

Somebody tell us about it.

seekerman 05-29-2010 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 918826)
I didn't.

Somebody tell us about it.
This gives a good starting place.

http://www.trumpetcallbooks.com/Glory_Response.html

BeenThinkin 05-29-2010 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 918796)
Anyone read "To God Be The Glory" by Joel Hemphill?
What did you think of it seekerman? I have it and have read it!

BT

seekerman 05-30-2010 05:36 AM
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What did you think of it seekerman? I have it and have read it!

BT
I enjoyed reading it. Gives a new perspective that one should seriously consider, in my opinion.

BeenThinkin 05-31-2010 08:40 PM
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I enjoyed reading it. Gives a new perspective that one should seriously consider, in my opinion.
Answer's a lot of questions that many of the other theories or doctrines simply explain away or don't answer. IMHO!

seekerman 06-01-2010 02:57 PM
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Answer's a lot of questions that many of the other theories or doctrines simply explain away or don't answer. IMHO!
Yep, that's what I found too. For me it presented a viewpoint that made things fit that didn't fit before concerning the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost.

Sam 06-01-2010 03:00 PM
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Yep, that's what I found too. For me it presented a viewpoint that made things fit that didn't fit before concerning the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost.
It's my understanding that Joel has gone from oneness to twoness?

BeenThinkin 06-01-2010 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 919776)
It's my understanding that Joel has gone from oneness to twoness?

Not so! He is probably more oneness than anyone else. Contact him. He's is more than willing to share with anyone his beliefs. His book is very detailed in where he stands. Many oneness and trinitarians are in agreement with what he is saying.

BT

n david 06-01-2010 03:24 PM
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Not so! He is probably more oneness than anyone else. Contact him. He's is more than willing to share with anyone his beliefs. His book is very detailed in where he stands. Many oneness and trinitarians are in agreement with what he is saying.

BT
How so?

seekerman 06-01-2010 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 919776)
It's my understanding that Joel has gone from oneness to twoness?
After reading "To God Be The Glory", I think Joel is a true oneness believer in the sense of one God, the Father who has a Son separate and distinct from Him. Oneness in the sense of one mind and accord between Jesus and His Father, but not Jesus being the one true God, the Father.

I quote from the book......

"Does Jesus have a God? Yes! Now, may I ask, Is Jesus your God, or is Jesus' God your God? God is waiting for your answer!"

Personally, my answer to that question is that Jesus' God is my God.

mizpeh 06-01-2010 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by seekerman (Post 918835)
This gives a good starting place.

http://www.trumpetcallbooks.com/Glory_Response.html
He sounds like a Biblical Unitarian.

SRM 06-01-2010 08:10 PM
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It's my understanding that Joel has gone from oneness to twoness?
He simply points out the One God of the Bible..the Father!..who is Spirit..who is One..who sent His Son to die for the sins of the world

BeenThinkin 06-01-2010 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin
Not so! He is probably more oneness than anyone else. Contact him. He's is more than willing to share with anyone his beliefs. His book is very detailed in where he stands. Many oneness and trinitarians are in agreement with what he is saying.

BT
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Originally Posted by n david (Post 919789)
How so?
Don't know if I understand your question. I have talked with Joel and he has shared with me many different ministers from UPC and from the AOG, as well as other denominations, that have said he had it just right.

I've found Joel's spirit very kind and not argumentative. He believes what he believes and is ready to share with anyone that wants to hear him out. And as I said earlier, a lot of questions that are discussed on AFF Joel deals with. You might not agree with him but he does give history and scriptures to back up his theology.

I would encourage anyone to first read his book before you draw any conclusions as to what he has or has not become. Feel free to call him if you want to know anything about his book. He will talk to you.

BT

SRM 06-05-2010 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BeenThinkin
Not so! He is probably more oneness than anyone else. Contact him. He's is more than willing to share with anyone his beliefs. His book is very detailed in where he stands. Many oneness and trinitarians are in agreement with what he is saying.

BT


Don't know if I understand your question. I have talked with Joel and he has shared with me many different ministers from UPC and from the AOG, as well as other denominations, that have said he had it just right.

I've found Joel's spirit very kind and not argumentative. He believes what he believes and is ready to share with anyone that wants to hear him out. And as I said earlier, a lot of questions that are discussed on AFF Joel deals with. You might not agree with him but he does give history and scriptures to back up his theology.

I would encourage anyone to first read his book before you draw any conclusions as to what he has or has not become. Feel free to call him if you want to know anything about his book. He will talk to you.

BT
I have spoken to Him and like you said He is a kind and not at all argumenttative..I agree with most of what His book teaches but not all..It is true there are Trinitarians and even Oneness pastors who have and are seeing this..it is hard to argue against the truth..

BUSH DE 01-15-2011 01:38 AM
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Yes I give God glory for every September 11. I do not give glory to the disaster that happened but for the many who cared like the police, firefighters, etc. I give Him Glory for the many who did not make it into the building that day and lived. In every bad day there is good if we look for it.


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