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ILUVHIM 06-04-2010 01:07 PM

Asst Presiding Bishop Arrrested for Sexual Assault
 
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...TOubdxAp6Jd67g

This is so disturbing!!!

Dedicated Mind 06-04-2010 01:18 PM

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Just checked out his website. He is an acts 2:38 apostolic. So sad.

n david 06-04-2010 02:10 PM

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I agree with someone who posted a comment on the news website ... 1) the lady waits 3 months to notify police about it; 2) no evidence other than her word versus his; 3) repeat the first two...

It does sound like the accusation of a woman scorned, as someone commented. I'd be careful and not rush to judge this man before more facts are known or evidence is presented.

Esther 06-04-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 920894)
I agree with someone who posted a comment on the news website ... 1) the lady waits 3 months to notify police about it; 2) no evidence other than her word versus his; 3) repeat the first two...

It does sound like the accusation of a woman scorned, as someone commented. I'd be careful and not rush to judge this man before more facts are known or evidence is presented.

I agree. 3 months is a loooong time to wait to report something. I bet there is more to this story. Problem is even if he is innocent she has managed to ruin his reputation.

Justin 06-04-2010 02:55 PM

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This is why a Pastor never counsels a female by himself, his wife should have been present.

Esther 06-04-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin (Post 920902)
This is why a Pastor never counsels a female by himself, his wife should have been present.

True...but we don't know that there really was a meeting either.

n david 06-04-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Esther (Post 920898)
I agree. 3 months is a loooong time to wait to report something. I bet there is more to this story. Problem is even if he is innocent she has managed to ruin his reputation.

Exactly. After the Duke Lacrosse fiasco and other false rape reports, there needs to be legal action and penalty filed against those who would file a false report and lie to police about this serious crime. And the penalty should be tough. There's too much of this that's been happening lately, and for the accused their reputation is completely ruined regardless while most of the time the woman gets off without so much as a warning.

pelathais 06-04-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 920894)
I agree with someone who posted a comment on the news website ... 1) the lady waits 3 months to notify police about it; 2) no evidence other than her word versus his; 3) repeat the first two...

It does sound like the accusation of a woman scorned, as someone commented. I'd be careful and not rush to judge this man before more facts are known or evidence is presented.

Sad, sad position for the man and his entire church to be in. Given the prevalence of false reports and the circumstances of this case it is perhaps best to let the whole thing drag out before reaching a conclusion.

Esther 06-04-2010 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 920906)
Exactly. After the Duke Lacrosse fiasco and other false rape reports, there needs to be legal action and penalty filed against those who would file a false report and lie to police about this serious crime. And the penalty should be tough. There's too much of this that's been happening lately, and for the accused their reputation is completely ruined regardless while most of the time the woman gets off without so much as a warning.

I agree wholeheartly with you.:thumbsup

Truthseeker 06-04-2010 03:17 PM

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i wouldn't be quick to believe this lady.

Timmy 06-04-2010 03:34 PM

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Why be quick to believe either one of them? Lots of people wait to report sexual assault, and many never report, whether because of fear, or of lack of resolve or confidence, etc. And I don't see in the news story that there is no evidence. It doesn't mention any, but, as Esther said, I'm sure there is more to this story.

James Griffin 06-04-2010 03:46 PM

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Having handled dozens of these cases from both prosecution AND defense I would hesitate to judge either side at this point.

Jermyn Davidson 06-04-2010 04:18 PM

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I am very familiar with this group of Apostolics.

They are VERY, VERY strict on outward appearances and I think there was something else that made them a bit more legalistic, but I don't remember.


Anyway, because of what I know about the people who attend churches in this fellowship, I simply don't believe the woman is telling the truth here.



Besides, Bishop Faulkner is highly reputable in the Washington, DC area and vicinity. Sure it's possible he could fall like this because he is human and humans can have wicked ways.


It's possible, but in this case, I just don't think it's likely.

Apocrypha 06-04-2010 05:46 PM

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The worst thing he can do is step down... its a implied admission that something happened.

Also he would be wise to do a certified lie detector test from a 3rd party company with other ministers in his fellowship present. That would wipe out most of the problems if innocent.

And its reason number 1,000,000 of why ministers should never counsel any female without their wife present or have their wife or a female staff minister do all female counseling.

ILG 06-04-2010 06:09 PM

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Innocent until proven guilty.

Praxeas 06-04-2010 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 920894)
I agree with someone who posted a comment on the news website ... 1) the lady waits 3 months to notify police about it; 2) no evidence other than her word versus his; 3) repeat the first two...

It does sound like the accusation of a woman scorned, as someone commented. I'd be careful and not rush to judge this man before more facts are known or evidence is presented.

Im surprised the police even arrested him. And who in the world leaks this stuff to the news?

Jack Shephard 06-04-2010 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 920875)
Just checked out his website. He is an acts 2:38 apostolic. So sad.

Sad no matter what he is. Now he is a Tongue-talker with a criminal record.

Praxeas 06-04-2010 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK (Post 920999)
Sad no matter what he is. Now he is a Tongue-talker with a criminal record.

Not yet. No trial yet

Jack Shephard 06-04-2010 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 921002)
Not yet. No trial yet

Ah true. There is a catch...

Isaiah 06-04-2010 11:20 PM

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"...there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known" (Matthew 10:26). If it is or isn't of truth it shall be revealed, God will protect the man of God if it isn't of a truth, and if it is... well my sincere prayers go out to all those effected by this situation.

Hoovie 06-04-2010 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Isaiah (Post 921045)
"...there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known" (Matthew 10:26). If it is or isn't of truth it shall be revealed, God will protect the man of God if it isn't of a truth, and if it is... well my sincere prayers go out to all those effected by this situation.

I really want to believe this (and in an eternal perspective I am sure it's true) but I also know the guilty walk and the innocent suffer shame...

I just pray justice is done.

Timmy 06-05-2010 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Isaiah (Post 921045)
"...there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known" (Matthew 10:26). If it is or isn't of truth it shall be revealed, God will protect the man of God if it isn't of a truth, and if it is... well my sincere prayers go out to all those effected by this situation.

Hope you're right. I suspect, however, that a great number of innocent people are convicted and sentenced, and a great number of guilty people go free. It's not a perfect system, and God doesn't always answer prayers for healing -- why do you think He'd always answer prayers for truth to be revealed?


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