God does not forgive, because he never condemned.
 

Can this statement be true?



God does not forgive, because he never condemned.

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Can it be true? Sure. Is it true? Dunno.

:D

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Is the devil condemned to hell?

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Is he cursed or condemned?

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Is there a redemtion plan for the Devil?

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I would like to know what your answer is to the main question, you have to admit, it makes you think.

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Well, if it isn't God condemning people, who is it? Satan? Does he really have that ability?

And if it isn't God forgiving people, who is it? Satan? :hmmm

:hmmm You're right. It's making me think. ;)

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If God does not forgive then granting us forgiveness of sins was a waste of time. lol

Yes, He condemned the world due to sin.

Act 5:31 KJV Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Jesus did not come to condemn because the world was already condemned.

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Is there a difference?

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The bible doesn't appear to speak of one.

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Not really.

Exodus 32:31-32

31 And Moses returned unto the LORD, and said, Oh, this people have sinned a great sin, and have made them gods of gold.

32 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written.

Was Moses totally off base in asking God to forgive the sin of his people?

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Okay, what is the purpose of this thread? What does the original poster have to say about this? How can it be said God does not forgive if the bible says He does? :)

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Psalms 86:5 For thou, Lord, art good, and ready to forgive; and plenteous in mercy unto all them that call upon thee.

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Scripture says we condemn ourselves...

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Jeremiah 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

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Where?

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Matthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

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Please note: I DID NOT START THIS THREAD! :toofunny

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Is condemnation the only reason for forgiveness? What about conviction?

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I think it can be best said: we condemn ourselves to be condemned by God because we sinned...

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Here's one example:

Matthew 12

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You are going to have to start being a little more specific...

EDIT: I suppose I shouldn't fret too much... at least you didn't say the book of Matthew was your example or the 4 gospels or the whole new testament or the whole bible...

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Ah. Verse 37? "For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned."? OK.

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Ctrl-f works wonders! :lol

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haha yep.

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Right.

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Mf blume, who condemned the world if God did not. Did he create a condemned creation? Or was it from Adam taking the fruit of the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil, did that bring the awarness of evil and condemnation.\?

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This statement definitaly gives you a new perspective on who God is to you. Because if you can establish God forgives, then God must have condemned, and you believe in a God that has condemned you from the beginning. As far as those that say we condemn ourselves to be condemned by God, are still saying that God condemned them regardless of who did it first.

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God condemns sin. Man committed sin. Man came under condemnation. The world was not created to be condemned. Adam had that potential in his hands and indeed accomplished it.

Are you saying you do not agree that God forgives?

there are so many attempts to reinvent the wheel on these forums. lol. The bible says God forgives.

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God condemns sin. Man sinned. Go figure.


Dan 9:19 KJV O Lord, hear; O Lord, forgive; O Lord, hearken and do; defer not, for thine own sake, O my God: for thy city and thy people are called by thy name.


Amo 7:2 KJV And it came to pass, that when they had made an end of eating the grass of the land, then I said, O Lord GOD, forgive, I beseech thee: by whom shall Jacob arise? for he is small.

Num 30:5 KJV But if her father disallow her in the day that he heareth; not any of her vows, or of her bonds wherewith she hath bound her soul, shall stand: and the LORD shall forgive her, because her father disallowed her.

Psa 86:5 KJV For thou, Lord, art good, and ready to forgive; and plenteous in mercy unto all them that call upon thee.

The entire NEW COVENANT is based upon God forgiving.

Jer 31:34 KJV And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

How can anyone ask if God forgives or not when God Himself said He does?

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Is our mere mortality considered condemnation? The flesh

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First, do you agree the Lord forgives according to those verses I cited? That is your whole point, and it appears like you are trying to circumvent those plain statements, and reason it out that something is offkey. God forgives, brother. Period. Mortality has nothing to do with the fact that God forgives. Why are you asking about mortality when the answer as to whether he forgives is plainly written in scripture?

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If God forgives us, then he had to condemn us. That is what I'm saying, and asking you if this is true?

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:grampa Did God condemn humanity from birth? If he didn't then why should he and how could he forgive something he didn't condemn. I'm just asking you to put a little more thought into it, it's not so black and white, explain the purpose behind the scripture. don't just say Jesus was baptized so we need to baptize.......I want to know how did he baptize. Thats just an example Do you understand?:thumbsup

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Mexico tied South Africa 1 to 1. Good game.

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I am asking if you agree with the scriptures that state God said he forgives? Let's start with the facts. We are not meant to reason out if something is true before we can say God forgives. I think that is going at it backwards. We have to find what facts are stated in scripture and then work from there. The facts are that God forgives.

Jer 31:34 KJV And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

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Bro., you said "God does not forgive, " and Jeremiah 31:34 shows God saying "I will forgive." Cannot get any plainer that that. :thumbsup

In short, that original statement you introduced cannot be true since the bible says God forgives.

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Psa 103:2-3 KJV Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits: (3) Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases;

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Correction, I never said anything one way or the other. I want to see what you think about this statement. I didn't create this statement, I'm interested to see if others believe it is true or not, and then prove it.