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DAII 06-29-2010 06:23 AM

TB has LS preach Holy Magic Hair again!
 
The Pentecostal Church of Memphis once again, this past weekend, asked LS to come and preach his "Order of Creation" message and this time it took 2 nights, at least that is what the archives on their site indicates.... apparently Terry Black is unabashed in his support of this heretical doctrine.

TPCM was the church in which LS preached HMH a few years ago and the video subsequently was YouTubed.

6/26 - http://www.tpcmemphis.org/archived.aspx?wme=062610a


6/27 - http://www.tpcmemphis.org/archived.aspx?wme=062710a

DAII 06-29-2010 06:31 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
LS, 6/26, says regarding far left in Pentecost that there are Baptists who are "better Pentecostals"! And says he wants to see the far left and far right drop out.

He then prophesies over the moderates and the HG will fall upon them

DAII 06-29-2010 06:36 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
LS states ..... He is done with the Beatitudes. We need people to 'fall dead among us" like Ananias and Saphira so all this "nonsense will stop".

DAII 06-29-2010 06:45 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
6/26 - The first 20 or more minutes are preaching of the wrath of God who falls on those who speak out against him and others like Billy Cole, TW Barnes, etc.

People stricken for not heeding.

LS states that one man in the UPCI spoke out against him and he lost his voice.

If he is thrown out he will start his own church in the woods and "preach to the squirrels".

Justin 06-29-2010 06:51 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 930153)
6/26 - The first 20 or more minutes are preaching of the wrath of God who falls on those who speak out against him and others like Billy Cole, TW Barnes, etc.

People stricken for not heeding.

LS states that one man in the UPCI spoke out against him and he lost his voice.

If he is thrown out he will start his own church in the woods and "preach to the squirrels".

This brought a smile to my face. I can see LS out in the nature preaching to squirrles... and the squirrels thinking, "This guy is nuts!".

DAII 06-29-2010 06:52 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
6/26 has little if nothing on HMH .... mainly testimony and rhetoric against those who go against his and "our" authority.

Brad Murphy 06-29-2010 06:53 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
What a crock... the only power these men have are in their deluded imaginations... and to be fine with people falling over dead is one step away from becoming the "hand of God" like the Muslim extremists do... and no, I won't take that back...

Justin 06-29-2010 06:54 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
Does he still misquote the ISBE and say Paul's audience didn't know about the custom of veiling? Or by mixing up the greek word for long and shorn? Komao and kerio? He's made these mistakes in other videos and to me in person.

DAII 06-29-2010 07:01 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
Justin 6/27 seems to be the HMH teaching.

A man maintains his relationship with God through his short hair
And a woman's is continual because her hair is still growing.

Our relationship and acceptance to God is incomplete and is maintained on how we groom our hair.

DAII 06-29-2010 07:07 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin (Post 930157)
Does he still misquote the ISBE and say Paul's audience didn't know about the custom of veiling? Or by mixing up the greek word for long and shorn? Komao and kerio? He's made these mistakes in other videos and to me in person.

He once again uses the word Kerio again .... instead of Komao ...

of course meaning "uncut" in his interpretation

DAII 06-29-2010 07:08 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
Once a women stops cutting her hair ...
the authority and power returns ...
If a woman is backslidden and says she won't cut her
God is merciful .... it returns instantaneously.

DAII 06-29-2010 07:11 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
He also calls Dr. Treece " a gift of God" "among us" .... considered a Hebrew and Greek scholar among the Rabbinates

And uses Treece's adjure statement saying a woman shouldn't dare to cast out a demon with cut hair.

DAII 06-29-2010 07:13 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
Latter rain will be 7x more than the book of Acts.

References "emergents" among us.

DAII 06-29-2010 07:17 AM

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He knows a man who was caught up ... did not die ....

*AQuietPlace* 06-29-2010 07:18 AM

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mind-boggling

DAII 06-29-2010 07:20 AM

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God cleans the head of man making him bald through age... nature .... genetically showing God's master design.

Only a sick woman balds.

Justin 06-29-2010 07:22 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
Here's my summary from LS's "Order of Creation" as he preached a few weeks ago a a local church.

Summary of Stoneking's exegesis:

God established an order or rule of submission called "The Order of Creation", which is built from 1 Corinthians 11:3; But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. Thus it is layed out: God, Christ, Man, Woman. When a man or woman does not comply with this order, they are out of God's will. This is accomplished by men having long hair and woman having cut hair. Angels and the spirit realm are confused when a woman enters the presence of God with cut hair, in fact, a woman should not bother entering God presence or casting out demons if she has cut hair. A woman's hair can easily be "uncut" simply when a woman makes up her mind that it is wrong to cut her hair. From that point on, her hair is uncut and she is now back in line with the God's order of creation.

Evil angels seek women that are outside of God's order of creation by their unwillingness to keep their hair uncut. After roughly two years of not cutting their hair men begin to fight the spirit of homosexualism. Verse 10 shows that a woman has power on her head through/by/with angels. The power refers to authority, which is spiritual authority. Women have authority over angels by their uncut hair, something men cannot do. Woman can and should use this spiritual authority to use angels to protect and guard their homes, kids and husband. Thus, the full order of creation is: God, Christ, Man, Woman, Angels. There is nothing "magical" about a woman's uncut head of hair, but rather it is her faith that God will honor for her willingness to fulfill God's proper order of creation. There is nothing wrong with a woman letting down her hair to lay it over a loved one in order to remind God that she has followed the order of creation by not cutting her hair.

DAII 06-29-2010 07:23 AM

Re: TB has LS preach Holy Magic Hair again!
 
The great minds and scholars of the ages are finally saying what we have been saying for years.

DAII 06-29-2010 07:28 AM

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Her is glory (hair) "doxe" is "God's good opinion of her" and reflects his Glory

DAII 06-29-2010 07:30 AM

Re: TB has LS preach Holy Magic Hair again!
 
Once again speaks of Jesus hem, Pauls aprons and handkerchiefs, ... and they were not "holy magic".

DAII 06-29-2010 07:30 AM

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There is no such thing as Holy Magic Hair.

A term coined by scoffers.

DAII 06-29-2010 07:31 AM

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A woman reminds God of her submission .... lays down her hair ... that is HER RIGHT.

If a woman brings down her hair on father, husband, children and lays it on them ... and reminds God of her obedience ..... is there something wrong with that?

DAII 06-29-2010 07:34 AM

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Once again then moves on to testimonies substantiating the practice of laying hair ....
Woman who prayed for her father who's organs were failing and reminded God of her submission .... OUT OF THE HOSPITAL IN TWO DAYS

You can't fight RESULTS.
You can fight my theology but you can't fight my results.

Timmy 06-29-2010 07:41 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 930144)
LS states ..... He is done with the Beatitudes. We need people to 'fall dead among us" like Ananias and Saphira so all this "nonsense will stop".

Words fail me.

Twisp 06-29-2010 07:41 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin (Post 930154)
This brought a smile to my face. I can see LS out in the nature preaching to squirrles... and the squirrels thinking, "This guy is nuts!".

Ba dum ching!

DAII 06-29-2010 07:43 AM

Re: TB has LS preach Holy Magic Hair again!
 
(Paraphrasing)

A preacher said to him:

Brother Stoneking, We like your results but don't agree with your methods.

I told him why do you always have me come to your church and preach?

Your methods don't work, mine do.

Until you get better methods, I don't want to hear anything you have to say.

Apocrypha 06-29-2010 07:45 AM

Re: TB has LS preach Holy Magic Hair again!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 930181)
(Paraphrasing)

A preacher said to him:

Brother Stoneking, We like your results but don't agree with your methods.

I told him why do you always have me come to your church and preach?

Your methods don't work, mine do.

Until you get better methods, I don't want to hear anything you have to say.

He has drunk his own koolaid if he said that. What time marker was that statement at? If he said something similar to that he is gonna fall.

DAII 06-29-2010 07:47 AM

Re: TB has LS preach Holy Magic Hair again!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apocrypha (Post 930182)
He has drunk his own koolaid if he said that. What time marker was that statement at? If he said something similar to that he is gonna fall.

about 1:45 .... 6/27

allstate1 06-29-2010 07:51 AM

Re: TB has LS preach Holy Magic Hair again!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 930175)
A woman reminds God of her submission .... lays down her hair ... that is HER RIGHT.

If a woman brings down her hair on father, husband, children and lays it on them ... and reminds God of her obedience ..... is there something wrong with that?

Soooo even though the hairs on your head are numbered God HAS to be reminded of the lenghth???
Also God is right on top of disobedience but has to be reminded of obedience???

scotty 06-29-2010 07:59 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 930178)
Words fail me.

WHOOOAAAA !!!

Thats gotta be a first ! :toofunny

just sayin. :thumbsup

DAII 06-29-2010 07:59 AM

Re: TB has LS preach Holy Magic Hair again!
 
Spoke of the Southern California meeting, which was met with opposition (speaking of Larsen and Gray?) where he preached this meeting and spoke of the Allard hair miracle that resulted right after the service ..... in which Bro. Allard's son was injured .... in car wreck ...

Intestines a mess .... requiring surgery.

A woman in the audience called Sister Allar and preached LS message to Sister Allard on the phone ....

Sister Allard went to hospital and laid her long snow white hair....

Said: God I have been obedient, heal my boy
Doctor came .... checked Keith .... canceled surgery.


Ladies, apostolic .... We have hold of something that is more powerful than this world has ever seen

Ladies there is something we can do .... this is not a doctrine ... it is something YOU CAN DO ... IT HAS BEEN DONE.

Part of the gift of faith.

You can lay hands ... we can have healing lines

But ... We are beyond that ....

and need to get hold of the gift of faith (circa 1:50)

scotty 06-29-2010 08:01 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 930153)
LS states that one man in the UPCI spoke out against him and he lost his voice.

.

Hmmmmm, careful DA , your fingers may fall off next . :bigbaby

*AQuietPlace* 06-29-2010 08:02 AM

Re: TB has LS preach Holy Magic Hair again!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 930171)
The great minds and scholars of the ages are finally saying what we have been saying for years.

I sure do wish he would name names when he speaks of 'great scholars'. I've yet to read a 'great scholar' who believes this nonsense.

Brad Murphy 06-29-2010 08:04 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 930194)
Hmmmmm, careful DA , your fingers may fall off next . :bigbaby

Actually, somebody really needs to test some of these claims... it seems that they would be easy to prove, if they were true... and it would have to be repeatable to prove that it wasn't just a coincidence.

DAII 06-29-2010 08:06 AM

Re: TB has LS preach Holy Magic Hair again!
 
Reiterates God's vengeance against those who speak out against this.

DAII 06-29-2010 08:07 AM

Re: TB has LS preach Holy Magic Hair again!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 930196)
I sure do wish he would name names when he speaks of 'great scholars'. I've yet to read a 'great scholar' who believes this nonsense.

I think he believes they are reaffirming all of what the Apostolic movement has said on many issues .... not just hair.

DAII 06-29-2010 08:09 AM

Re: Terry Black has LS preach Holy Magic Hair agai
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty (Post 930194)
Hmmmmm, careful DA , your fingers may fall off next . :bigbaby

May God have mercy on us all .... including LS.

Apocrypha 06-29-2010 08:09 AM

Re: TB has LS preach Holy Magic Hair again!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 930198)
Reiterates God's vengeance against those who speak out against this.

He seems like a anti-Berean.

Also if you follow his train of thought God is going after Seagraves for writing the Pentecostal Herald article.

*AQuietPlace* 06-29-2010 08:10 AM

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So does God not KNOW that a woman has long, uncut hair? Why does she have to take it down and lay it on someone to remind him? If uncut hair protects families, why are there ANY tragedies in Pentecostal families?

I have uncut hair, and bad things have happened to me in my lifetime. Why? Why didn't my 'obedience' protect me??

This stuff makes me want to scream, yell and kick something! Twisting God's word like this is just not acceptable!!

*AQuietPlace* 06-29-2010 08:10 AM

Re: TB has LS preach Holy Magic Hair again!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 930199)
I think he believes they are reaffirming all of what the Apostolic movement has said on many issues .... not just hair.

Who is 'they'? I want to read it.


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