Biggest UPC church in the US???
 

I always though that POA had the most members...but I read that Pastor Raul Orozco in LA has a muticampus church "La Senda Antiuga" that has more than 4000 members.?.?.? I know, some of you were only thinking of "white churches"...but Orozco is a UPCI pastor. Wouldn't that make his church the largest? I know that some white bigot might have something funny to say!!!!

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La Raza baby!

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What about Williams in NYC?

Hmmm.. I'd think 4,000 would take the cake. But multi-campus is a little mis-leading. Vaugn Morton's daughter churches would beat that! lol

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huh? What does race got to do with who's the biggest?

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Well he IS trying to find out who is the bigost. :bliss

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Ask the bigot which is biggest.

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Depends on how you count. There was once a church that would set up a free doughnut and coffee stand in their downtown area on Easter Sunday. They would count every person that took a doughnut and include it in the attendance numbers. True story. They'd have, like, 1,800 Easter Sunday and they seated about 175 in their building.

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:ursofunny

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That's not all they did. They'd give free rides to people and count them, hand out outlines to the sermon that day and count the people they handed it to.....ridiculous. They did it all to jack up the attendance in the monthly district news that was sent out.

As Bill O'Reilly says, "Name and town, name and town." I can share if you like!:lol

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Oh quit with the O'Reilly quotes. Killing me lol

That's just too much. Man... the things to prop ourselves up. Make-up our educational credentials, speak in the King's English and tell your "beau's" that you are "running over a thousand" after passing out tracks. lol

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......who thought to introduce race into this?

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Orozco does have at least that .... he has done it all primarily through cell groups ...

He's a great man of God and extremely humble ...

Worked with him with a did promotions for SEM .... he served as a board member.

He is dedicated to the work in Los Angeles and even turned down being national SEM director when given the opportunity.

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That being said the church GCOH ..... I attend has just as many ....

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I was looking at UPC attendance numbers once, and it seemed like all the churches I was familiar with used Easter Sunday numbers.

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I think other denominations use Easter attendance too.

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What's the fascination with puffing numbers up??

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The person that started the thread.

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You did .... because Hispanic is not a race.
:grampa

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The largest Oneness church in America is Bro Braizers in Chicago, IL. It is called Apostolic Church of God. It runs 20,000 plus. Below is a link that talks about Bishop Arthur Braizers retirement, but it mentions that the church has over 20,000 members.

http://theapostolicreport.wordpress....church-of-god/

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Ego.

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some people call it "evangelistically speaking"

some people call it "exaggeration"

some people call it "lying"

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The "human race" would appear to be the most accurate assignment for each of us.

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I think that would be Jakes. While he may not claim the "Oneness" label, I think he would qualify by the standards French used in his research for "Our God is One".

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Is "white" a race?

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Sounds like racism to me

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You are right, but I was using the "Apostolic or Pentecostal" banner to make the answer. But you are right.

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Several years ago i discovered that my church attendance on the board in the vestibule, was not the sunday morning count (which was always the way i had seen it, growing up as a pastors kid) but it was the combined attendance, with no one being counted twice, of all the services each week.When that started to go around, the board label got changed to" weekly attendance".then when the entry was remodeled, someone took the golden opportunity to toss it out and no one has missed it since.Where this fuzzy number business started i dont know.Its lying IMO.

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Seemed that I ruffled some feathers..lol..didn't mean too...but lets be honest! When I asked the question, how many of you (white brethern) thought about the SEM churches??? If you did, I apologize...but many are not answering my question..Who would be the largest in the UPCI North America??? Dan, did you ever work for the SEM? Seems you know alot about it... I'm from the AAFCJ. I read of some like Monkeyman, who used to be in AAFCJ..Again my apologizes to those that thought of all the works of the UPCI.... But none to the biggest crybaby Praxes..man, 23,000 posts!?!?! Get a life loser.....

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Incoming MOAB !! Get em Prax, HE He ! I dont know prax or their gender even, other than their a stinkin laker fan ! But just a question ,what if this person is a para in a wheelchair or a quad that types with their mouth and they are house bound ? Then you will feel lower than whale dung. Good Luck Poison Fingers.!!

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Renda, I really want to smack someone, but I am going to be nice!!!!! I reported the offensive post.

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Yo Ap, I have never heard of SEM. I did reply to the question though see post number 23 in this thread.

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I have a better question, how many of you thought "white churches" or "Mexican churches"...now don't all raise your hands...oh I see only one. Our dear "brother" Apostolic 2:38

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Oh BTW Renda and Pressing on have more posts than I do..of course being a member since the board started helps...

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It's the bigots like "Apostolic 2:38" who project their racism on everyone around them.

When I read his initial post I just clicked on by because the way he was putting things just reeked of a bad spirit. "Biggest church..."

If the racists and the bigots could ever get to the point of seeing just "one church" their eyes would be open to the real wonders that the Spirit of God can accomplish in all of our lives.

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:thumbsup

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I can only think of the UPCI churches I know of.

Had I known of this man of God, then I would have thought of him.

For now on, whenever anyone asks this question, I will think of Pastor Orozco.


Well, that is until there is a Pastor Chan that builds a mighty UPCI work for the Lord here in the US, populated by the exploding demographic of Chinese-American immigrants.

Hopefully, you will be there to correct me again.

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Very familiar w SEM.

My parents were saved in the Assembly under the ministry of Roberto Martinez, son of Domingo Martinez, in NYC.

Dad shortly became UPCI and took over the pastorate of one of the very first Spanish churches of the UPCI, in 1978 in the Bronx, NY.

That was consequently the year of the 1st SEM conference - which I attended as a child.

Dad, in 1982, later took over the work in Queens when Domingo Martinez passed.

Dad pastored that work, Tabernaculo de Jesucristo, until he passed in November 2005.
During that time he served for many years on the national board of SEM and as probably the first Hispanic district presbyter with an all Spanish speaking church.

I became very involved with SEM from about 2004-2006. Helping to promote their national conference - creating a conference site and working with Mundo Pentecostal to finally webcast the SEM conference.

In 2005, I was offered a position in headquarters by the home missions director to become SEM's administrative assistant - a paid position. It did not materialize.

In '06 I turned in my UPCI card.

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Stevie,

SEM stands for Spanish Evangelism Ministries.

It is presently a dept. within Home Missions and is the oldest of the multi-cultural ministries within the UPCI.

Presently, the SEM director is a friend of mine, Sergio Vitanza. Formerly it was Elias Limones and before him, Dan Scott.

The annual SEM conference is taking place right now in Raleigh, NC.

This is night #2. It is webcasted @ www.mundopentecostal.com

Tomorrow is the final night.

In a fellowship of 3000 plus churches, there an estimated 500 plus Spanish speaking churches and works.

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Williams in NYC?

Do you mean Mitchell?

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My bad, last night was the final night of SEM conference.

There will be no more annual conferences ... At least for now ... as HMD is tightening its belt due to costs of venues and a dip in attendance. It will be held bi-annually like Youth Congress.

May be a matter of time in which GC will undergo this change as well, imo.