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Maximilian 07-08-2010 12:47 PM
UGST: Fully Accredited Graduate School
 
Endorsed by the Association of Theological Schools for 5 periods.

Here's there news update:

UGST is fully accredited!
Urshan Graduate School of Theology has received full accreditation from the Association of Theological Schools (ATS) for the maximum initial period of five years. ATS is the premier accrediting agency for graduate theological education recognized by the U.S. Government. Its accreditation is equal to that of the secular regional accrediting associations. Some schools offer credits through a contractual arrangement with secular or trinitarian colleges that are accredited, but do not have their own accreditation. Click on heading for further explanation.

Found it odd to say "some schools offer credits through a contractual arrangement with secular or trinitarian colleges tha are accredited, but do not have their own accredition."

#1 Appears to be a swipe at other UPCI-endorsed Bible schools, but probably more of a swipe against AST, the WPF school which has promoted itself heavily as the "only accredited Apostolic school."

#2 The mention of "trinitarian schools," along with "secular" schools seems a bit awkward.

Maximilian 07-08-2010 01:02 PM
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UGST ALUM ON THEIR SITE

Toby Stevens is featured. Is he still UPC?

The Journey Church of Anchorage website is quite nice. Definitely not in the mainstream culture.
http://www.thejourneyanchorage.org/history.html

Kerygma - I love the concept, look, feel. Who does Binion hang with theologically?
Great site too: http://www.kerygma.org/

Curtis Fee and New Life Christian Church. Don't know much about him.

http://www.mysanctuarycp.com/cgi-bin...30TH/floating1

Never heard of these pastors either. The pastor obtained an Mdiv from UGST (I wasn't aware they had the Mdiv program!).

freeatlast 07-08-2010 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximilian (Post 936512)
UGST ALUM ON THEIR SITE

Toby Stevens is featured. Is he still UPC?

The Journey Church of Anchorage website is quite nice. Definitely not in the mainstream culture.
http://www.thejourneyanchorage.org/history.html

Kerygma - I love the concept, look, feel. Who does Binion hang with theologically?
Great site too: http://www.kerygma.org/

Curtis Fee and New Life Christian Church. Don't know much about him.

http://www.mysanctuarycp.com/cgi-bin...30TH/floating1

Never heard of these pastors either. The pastor obtained an Mdiv from UGST (I wasn't aware they had the Mdiv program!).


Here's a church website for Curtis Fee. newlifequadcities.com

JN Anderson 07-08-2010 03:47 PM
Re: UGST: Fully Accredited Graduate School
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximilian (Post 936499)
Endorsed by the Association of Theological Schools for 5 periods.

Here's there news update:

UGST is fully accredited!
Urshan Graduate School of Theology has received full accreditation from the Association of Theological Schools (ATS) for the maximum initial period of five years. ATS is the premier accrediting agency for graduate theological education recognized by the U.S. Government. Its accreditation is equal to that of the secular regional accrediting associations. Some schools offer credits through a contractual arrangement with secular or trinitarian colleges that are accredited, but do not have their own accreditation. Click on heading for further explanation.

Found it odd to say "some schools offer credits through a contractual arrangement with secular or trinitarian colleges tha are accredited, but do not have their own accredition."

#1 Appears to be a swipe at other UPCI-endorsed Bible schools, but probably more of a swipe against AST, the WPF school which has promoted itself heavily as the "only accredited Apostolic school."

#2 The mention of "trinitarian schools," along with "secular" schools seems a bit awkward.
Now this is great news!

TheLegalist 07-09-2010 08:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JN Anderson (Post 936666)
Now this is great news!
no blood here.... I notice the lack of responses. :grampa Excellent news!

ManOfWord 07-09-2010 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by TheLegalist (Post 936997)
no blood here.... I notice the lack of responses. :grampa Excellent news!

Doesn't need to be blood. I think it is great news that credibility CAN happen. However, we all know that an education is ONLY what one does with it, not where it comes from, although that IS important. :D

TheLegalist 07-09-2010 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 937012)
Doesn't need to be blood. I think it is great news that credibility CAN happen. However, we all know that an education is ONLY what one does with it, not where it comes from, although that IS important. :D
Totaly agree.

pelathais 07-09-2010 09:10 AM
Re: UGST: Fully Accredited Graduate School
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 937012)
Doesn't need to be blood. I think it is great news that credibility CAN happen. However, we all know that an education is ONLY what one does with it, not where it comes from, although that IS important. :D
This was already discussed at length on another thread in several posts beginning here: http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...=30660&page=71

This is great news and congrats to all who worked so hard to bring this about.

Jeffrey 07-09-2010 09:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 937012)
Doesn't need to be blood. I think it is great news that credibility CAN happen. However, we all know that an education is ONLY what one does with it, not where it comes from, although that IS important. :D
I disagree.

Jeffrey 07-09-2010 09:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 937021)
This was already discussed at length on another thread in several posts beginning here: http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...=30660&page=71

This is great news and congrats to all who worked so hard to bring this about.
DA and I both thought news that big deserved its own thread.

pelathais 07-09-2010 09:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffrey (Post 937026)
DA and I both thought news that big deserved its own thread.
Which it does, however TL appeared to insinuate that "the board" was slighting this matter. Folks were not.

TheLegalist 07-09-2010 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 937049)
Which it does, however TL appeared to insinuate that "the board" was slighting this matter. Folks were not.
hmmm really... I see the oh so quick jumping on this with excitement. It took how long for responses to the "official thread"? Which shows the motivation for the negative is always higher.

Maximilian 07-09-2010 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TheLegalist (Post 937053)
hmmm really... I see the oh so quick jumping on this with excitement. It took how long for responses to the "official thread"? Which shows the motivation for the negative is always higher.
This is true for all of us in general, TL. Check your news programming, conference speakers, and even your own conversation in the last 48 hours. What's your dang point?

Besides, the topic got brought up in the other thread in the middle of a different conversation. It was a side-bar conversation. The responses in that thread (I encourage you to read it) were extreme support, honor and excitement about this news. Sorry to ruin your party.

ManOfWord 07-09-2010 10:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffrey (Post 937024)
I disagree.
You have every right to disagree. However, it's still true. If you don't use it, it is totally wasted. Education IS only worth what you do with it. Knowledge of the Word of God is ONLY as good as its application. Plenty of folks who have knowledge of the Bible and don't do anything with it regarding their lives. :D

Maximilian 07-09-2010 10:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ManOfWord (Post 937083)
You have every right to disagree. However, it's still true. If you don't use it, it is totally wasted. Education IS only worth what you do with it. Knowledge of the Word of God is ONLY as good as its application. Plenty of folks who have knowledge of the Bible and don't do anything with it regarding their lives. :D
LOL!!

I didn't disagree that education is powerful when it is used. I disagreed with the full statement, which said it "doesn't matter where it comes from."

pelathais 07-09-2010 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Maximilian (Post 937089)
LOL!!

I didn't disagree that education is powerful when it is used. I disagreed with the full statement, which said it "doesn't matter where it comes from."
hmm... "you" did?

*AQuietPlace* 07-09-2010 11:02 AM
Re: UGST: Fully Accredited Graduate School
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLegalist (Post 937053)
hmmm really... I see the oh so quick jumping on this with excitement. It took how long for responses to the "official thread"? Which shows the motivation for the negative is always higher.
That's because when news is "negative", there's more to say about it. Explanations and discussion about why you think it's "negative". When it's great news, there's really not much to say.

Do we really need 14 pages of people saying 'yippee'? That really wouldn't be that interesting to read. That's why 'negative' threads get more response than 'positive' ones.

*AQuietPlace* 07-09-2010 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 937102)
hmm... "you" did?
:ursofunny

oops

Maximilian 07-09-2010 11:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 937102)
hmm... "you" did?
In my best valley voice: "I don't get it..."

pelathais 07-09-2010 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Maximilian (Post 937105)
In my best valley voice: "I don't get it..."
That's okay. We did. :ursofunny

Maximilian 07-09-2010 11:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 937114)
That's okay. We did. :ursofunny
:pullhair No fair. Share the joke!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ManOfWord
Doesn't need to be blood. I think it is great news that credibility CAN happen. However, we all know that an education is ONLY what one does with it, not where it comes from, although that IS important.

I disagree.

*AQuietPlace* 07-09-2010 11:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximilian (Post 937116)
:pullhair No fair. Share the joke!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ManOfWord
Doesn't need to be blood. I think it is great news that credibility CAN happen. However, we all know that an education is ONLY what one does with it, not where it comes from, although that IS important.

I disagree.
Look who MOW was quoting.

Maximilian 07-09-2010 11:36 AM
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LOL Okay, okay, nevermind. Of all people, I should have caught that one first. hahaha

TheLegalist 07-09-2010 11:37 AM
Re: UGST: Fully Accredited Graduate School
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximilian (Post 937072)
This is true for all of us in general, TL. Check your news programming, conference speakers, and even your own conversation in the last 48 hours. What's your dang point?

Besides, the topic got brought up in the other thread in the middle of a different conversation. It was a side-bar conversation. The responses in that thread (I encourage you to read it) were extreme support, honor and excitement about this news. Sorry to ruin your party.
you are not ruining anything.... my point was exactly to what you just said above! Thanks for making it! :thumbsup

TheLegalist 07-09-2010 11:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 937103)
That's because when news is "negative", there's more to say about it. Explanations and discussion about why you think it's "negative". When it's great news, there's really not much to say.

Do we really need 14 pages of people saying 'yippee'? That really wouldn't be that interesting to read. That's why 'negative' threads get more response than 'positive' ones.
Yep!

Maximilian 07-09-2010 11:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLegalist (Post 937133)
you are not ruining anything.... my point was exactly to what you just said above! Thanks for making it! :thumbsup
If that helps you sleep better at night, sure. :thumbsup

TheLegalist 07-09-2010 11:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximilian (Post 937135)
If that helps you sleep better at night, sure. :thumbsup
I sleep fine... AQP also talked about what I was alluding to. No blood... eeehh little talk. Bring up a negative point like I did and even some arguing over other stuff.... BAM excitement on the thread! LOL!

Maximilian 07-09-2010 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TheLegalist (Post 937136)
I sleep fine... AQP also talked about what I was alluding to. No blood... eeehh little talk. Bring up a negative point like I did and even some arguing over other stuff.... BAM excitement on the thread! LOL!
Wow, aren't you just a Sociologist! So smart.

Your as much implicated as anyone else.

TheLegalist 07-09-2010 11:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximilian (Post 937140)
Wow, aren't you just a Sociologist! So smart.

Your as much implicated as anyone else.
Did I exclude myself? Actually once I saw it I did respond but sometimes I wouldn't but I am interested in this, so I responded.

Maximilian 07-09-2010 11:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLegalist (Post 937143)
Did I exclude myself? Actually once I saw it I did respond but sometimes I wouldn't but I am interested in this, so I responded.
Tis' true... and for many of the reasons AQP stated as well.

We are drawn to controversy.

TheLegalist 07-09-2010 11:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximilian (Post 937145)
Tis' true... and for many of the reasons AQP stated as well.

We are drawn to controversy.
Yep! We love blood when it's drawn!

ManOfWord 07-09-2010 12:52 PM
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There is no controversy here in this thread. I was drawn to it. It is a good report! I don't have anything negative to say about it. Congrats!!!! :D


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