was adam immortal
 

Was Adam immortal before the fall? What would be the purpose of God putting the tree of life in Eden if Adam was already immortal?

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Ok, I read this wrong and thought it said, "Was ADMIN immortal"... LOL!

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Yes, I do believe Adam was immortal. Having access to the "tree of life" is what made him immortal in the first place. I believe that the "tree of life" is a metaphor for God's Holy Spirit which resided in Adam before the fall, and now resides in man again because of the cross.

We know from Genesis that Adam had access to the "tree of life" because he was told he could "eat" from every tree in the garden except for the "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil".

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So why was God "afraid" that Adam would get His Spirit back, how could he?

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Genesis 3
22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever." 23 So the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side [e] of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

Our physical bodies need a constant supply of food or we die. Just like the physical, our spiritual person needs "food" also to survive. This spiritual "food" that we need comes directly from God and only he can give it.

When the Holy Spirit comes into a person's life it resurrects that person's Spirit from the dead. However, without a constant supply of this "food", it will not survive. You get this spiritual food from God's Word and the Holy Spirit.

When Adam was first created his spirit was alive. His spirit ate from the tree of life freely. When Adam sinned his spiritual person died and God took away the spiritual food that would sustain him. That is what I believe the Tree of Life really is.

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Me too!!


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I contend Adam was NOT immortal..It is very clear where HE was created and WHAT was He created FROM..

HE was created OUTSIDE the Garden..and had to be placed IN the Garden to have access to the Tree of Life...

God told Adam that the day He ate of the forbidden fruit,He would surely die.I do not think it took 900 yrs for Him to die..God said IN THE DAY you eat you WILL die..

Once Adam sinned..God did not say the reason He will return to the dust was becaused He sinned..but.........from dust thou was taken and to dust you will return..

Adam was made from dust..dust is not immortal..
Adam was from God and had perfect blood
Adam chose to disobey

Jesus was made from a woman and the Spirit of God...He is from God
Jesus had perfect blood
Jesus was tempted [and could have sinned} yet He did not

Jesus was the Second Adam..HE came to restore what Adam lost..Adam did not loose physical death..HE lost spiritual death,Abel was the first man to physically die,not Adam.Jesus did not come to redeem the death of Abel..

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There can be only one!

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yeah, I don't think he was physically immortal.

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Yes, Adam MacLeod of the clan MacLeod.

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He wasn't. The notion that there was no physical death before the fall flies in the face of logic when you consider that there couldn't have been any procreation either -if no one, human or animal, died. Imagine the situation that the planet would find itself in at some point in the future!

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.....yes, at one time even admin was immoral.

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"I am the One"-Jet Li-The One


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If an immortal being loses his immortality, was he really immortal to begin with? :hmmm

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If a perfect being becomes imperfect, was he really perfect to begin with? :hmmm

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Hello Brother,
Would you agree that the first death to occur in earth was the animals whose blood was shed for their skins to be a covering for sin?

Why do you insist on 'logic' as the marker for what God does?

God did not offer pro-creation until the first couple were leaving the garden gate behind them...then, by the word of God, physical procreation was established.

God has all power in heaven and earth.

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No I would not agree with that. Billions of barrels of oil buried MILES under the ground testify to that fact. Fossils of tiny sea creatures also discovered MILES underground by miners and drillers also tells the tale of death, at least in the animal kingdom for billions of years.

And we do not always know why God does things, in fact we rarely do, but we DO know that God cannot lie and plant false evidence for us to find forcing us to choose what believe: What we see and test (1 Thess 5:21: Prove all things; hold fast that which is good), and what someone's interpretation of the Word says. If we were having this conversation a little over a hundred years ago you would be saying "Either you believe that the Earth is center of our universe or you might as well throw the whole bible away". Actually I should have said "center of the solar system" because in a bizarre way everything is the center of the Universe based on inflation theory.