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Who do you consider to be the worst American President for the past 100 years?

President Carter is spoken of as being the worst President in our life time and now some people are saying that BHO is matching him or surpassing him for that position.

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I think I agree. President Carter, in my opinion, has been the worst until President Obama.

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Pres Carter has been giving silent thanks to God nearly every night for the past year because Obama came along.

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Lyndon Johnson. Obama is a choir boy compared to Johnson.

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I respectfully invite you to present your case for that thesis. However, keep in mind President LBJ has already done his worst. President BHO is just getting started.

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Obama is the worst and I see no way he can ever redeem himself!

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Not even close!

At least we know Johnson was an American citizen.

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Yep... Carter held the record but Obama has exceeded even the lowest expectations we could have had for Carter.

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Whooo Whooo Whooo :nutso

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Carter, but B. Hussein is coming pretty close. Who the heck puts a tax on tanning?

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Me either. But I'd be willing to call it even if he'd go away tomorrow. :)

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The assassination of John F. Kennedy, the megabucks military-industrial complex of Johnson's cronies at the expense of 50,000+ American and hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese lives, the introduction of the 'great society' trillion dollar giveaway which is now bankrupting the country, stealing elections, racist, womanizer.

I know of no other president who was worse than Johnson.

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Well... IMO... Obama is operating at a magnitude of social engineering and great society operations Johnson wouldn't have had the guts to dream of.

Johnson paved the way... But Obama is clearing both sides of the road for a 12 lane superhighway...each direction.

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I can't totally disagree. I think obama is selling us out globally while Johnson was only doing it nationally. Both are socialists, with Johnson's socialism being only a means to power, but obama's socialism is much more sinister in my opinion.

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Working from my basic theory that one cannot properly judge a man’s place in history until he has been out of the office for at least 10 years, I would say it is far too early to assess Bammers place in history. But I will say he is working hard to earn a position on the “worst Presidents list”

Herbert Hoover is almost unanimously seen as the worst president in the last 100 years.
Jimmy Carter however, was the least effective.
Lyndon Johnson certainly deserves to be mentioned.
However, none did as much damage to the Constitution as FDR. Conventional wisdom puts him at the forefront of “Greatest Presidents” and he is top 5 or 6 all time on most lists. But he did many things that if done today, might lead to an actual violent attack on Washington. FDR passed laws that froze prices and people were actually arrested for setting their price below what he demanded. He was Americas only real authoritarian president. Not to mention his absolute bungling of Social Security. After first getting it passed, he worked it so that the funds coming into SS program went directly to the general revenue coffers and not into the SS system. We are now paying the price for that ineptness.

All 4 of these guys deserve to be listed on any “worst presidents “ list.

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Let's just say that, in the case of Obama, Johnson would be proud. Even impressed. :)

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You mean like continuing in Afghanisatan but refusing to send enough troops and supplies to win? Or like advertising to Iran, "OK, We're pulling out of Iraq in 1 year, start gearing up your invasion force!"

You mean like Bank bailouts, UAW bailouts, the "Porkulous Package", and "National Healthcare"?

You mean like ACORN and New Black Panthers?

You mean like eying the rear of a 16 year old girl?

Then you're not paying enough attention to President Obama.

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FDR, hands down. He left a horrible legacy of failure and waste. His people successfully used WW2 as a means to propagate his failed policies and to cover up the fact that the Great Depression had never lifted.

FDR was such a failure that BOTH parties overwhelmingly supported the ratification of the 22 Amendment limiting the number of terms a President may serve in a direct response to FDR's various power grabs.

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Do you seriously attribute President Kennedy's assassination to LBJ?

I'm not about to defend the guy on those other points - though there are some elements of exaggeration there as well; but this one is a bit much, don't you think?

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Carter- ineffective leader
Bush, Jr. - a puppet for the string pullers

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what thesis?

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Not so. President Harry Truman (D.) appointed former President Hoover to lead the commission that was to lead to the 22nd Amendment in 1945. President Hoover obviously had a lot of respect and standing in both parties to be tapped for that job.

Despite the claims of FDR revisionists, Hoover's policies had nothing to do with the Great Depression. The new Federal Reserve Bank was the entity responsible for that. Right when they should have been loosening up the money supply in response to the market crash and associated business downturns they instead tightened the money supply and almost brought us to the brink of fascism.

Only the long toil of war and the consequent destruction of the industrial and manufacturing capacity of most of the rest of the world got us out of the Depression.

Just IMHO. Hoover wasn't so bad. His main fault was his failure to understand the new media tools of radio and the Newsreel.

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One word...Katrina.

Can you think of one president ever in history that caused a hurricane?

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Clinton and that guy that is in office now.

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I would have thought the answer to your question would be self evident, seeing how
is directly preceded by


I'm not sure where you're going with this, but I'd ask you to get there quickly. I left Chalmette merely 7 hours before Katrina made landfall and anything that woulndt fit in our Chevy Astro was lost. I have friends who lost family in St. Bernard Parish and New Orleans. Even now, so many years later, I get very touchy when people use such intense personal tragedy for political points. Especially those who werent there and werent directly affected by it.

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I believe GWB will go down in history as a good president, and certainly his legacy will IMPROVE because of Obama. Right now everyone is drinking the Obama koolaid that everything is Bush's fault, but that broken record is already getting old even with some Obama supporters (some, not all, as many are mindless Obama sheep.)

One thing that no one seems to consider with GWB is that 9-11 happened when bush had only been in office about 6 months. It shaped his entire presidency, plus the housing bubble that the Clinton administration had put in place busted (as everyone warned that it eventually would during Clinton's administration) towards the end of Bush's term. When you consider it, much of the negative things spoken about Bush were democrats fault, and the things now being blamed on Bush were democrats fault (in many cases).

No Bush wasn't perfect, I especially was disgusted how he treated muslims AFTER 9-11 saying the worshipped the same God, but I can understand the political expediency of it. Which also makes my point, GWB was a politican, and as far as politicians go, I like GWB, he seemed to be honest, and have some integrity. He is accused of being stupid because he wasn't especially eloquent. However in contradistinction to Bush, we now have Obama, whom some have pretty much elevated to the role of Messiah and Savior, not merely a politician. He is the anti-Bush. He lies, has massive corruption surronding his administration and associates, and he responds eloquenly seemingly only when [tele-] promted.

GWB invites Obama to the White House, speaks kindly to Him, and what does Obama do, but throw Bush under the bus, blame all his problems on him, and unseal private records that no president had unsealed on a previous president.

GWB to me, is just a man, and probably a sinner at that, but this business about him being a bad president is simply folks taking the baith hook, line and sinker from a liberal media with an agenda.

Also, I don't recall GWB apologizing on behalf of America or bowing to muslim leaders (while disrespecting Israeli and British leaders). PS-Laura Bush had way more class than Michelle Obama, and here 13 personal servants. :vomit

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I dont fully agree with you. Hoover did do some things that exacerbated the situation. Hoover raised protectionist tarriffs (Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act.) which hampered recovery. At the end of his term he along with congress raised taxes drastically causing further damage.

I do agree that in later years Hoover was seen as an elder statesman and had a good deal of respect.

Speaking Truman, he was seen as a poor president by the end of his term, but has in recent years recovered a good deal.

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A teacher asked her 6th grade class how many of them were Obama fans.

Not really knowing what an Obama fan is, but wanting to be liked by the teacher, all the kids raised their hands except for Little Johnny.

The teacher asked Little Johnny why he has decided to be different... again.

Little Johnny said, "Because I'm not an Obama fan."

The teacher asked, "Why aren't you a fan of Obama?" Johnny said, "Because I'm a Republican."

The teacher asked him why he's a Republican. Little Johnny answered, "Well, my Mom's a Republican and my Dad's a Republican, so I'm a Republican."

Annoyed by this answer, the teacher asked, "If your mom was a moron and your dad was an idiot, what would that make you?"

With a big smile, Little Johnny replied, "That would make me an Obama fan."

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Ouch, Ouch, Ouch!

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Many issues have been presented but without reaching into the past, the winners would have to be Carter and now Obama.

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OBUMMER ! beats carter he is ineffective and poor.

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I guess when I think of the word Thesis I think of a dissertation, my error.

You really think I was serious about blaming bush for causing Katrina?

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I wasn't sure. I apologize that I was so swift to take offense. I was definitely not bringing my A game that night.

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Y'all keep bringing this up, but tell me what this means:

"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

At the time this document was established, there were no natural born U.S. presidents. That is why that line was written.

The way I read it, one must be a resident of the U.S. for fourteen years...am I reading it correctly?

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No.

The framers recognized that the first group of men that might be President could not be natural born as there was no America to be born in. Thus the wording of the clause.

After the point where those who were born before 1776 were gone, the wording of the constitution requires a president to be a natural born citizen.

Additionally the 14 years requirement extends to individuals who have lived over seas. Ambassadors, military men etc.

If you are a natural born citizen, and have lived overseas for an extended period of time, you cannot come back to America and run for President unless you have lived here for 14 years.

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Sorry, Ferd...

I do not read it that way. It reads natural born or citizen "at the time of the adoption of this Constitution."

The "natural born" did not occur until 1811.

Fourteen years a resident seems to be the criteria.

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Where is this documented?

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well, first you can look at the actual words in the contitution. the syntax is there. you may be reading it wrong.

second, I suppose you can look in the Federalist Papers but I would not know where to go.

The explination is out there everywhere. I learned this in 9th grade civics class.

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I did look at the actual words in the Constitution...I posted them, and will do so again...

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

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Another way to say this same thing is:

"Only Natural born citizens (or any citizen at the time of the adoption of this document) who are at least 35 yrs old and having at least 14 consecutive years of US residency are eligible to be President of the US." the word "neither" indicates that all criteria are necessary, not just one of them, with the exception of the "time of adoption" clause.