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DAII 08-10-2010 02:09 PM
Apostolic News: Oldest Images of Apostles found
 
Does anyone find the irony in this posting by the con Apostolic news outlet on the web ... ????

The oldest known image of the apostles Andrew and John have been discovered in catacombs under the city of Rome, dating back to the 4th century AD, archaeologists announced Tuesday.

The paintings were found in the same location where the oldest known painting of St. Paul was discovered last year, the Pontifical Commission for Sacred Archeology said Tuesday.

They are part of a group of paintings around an image of Jesus as the Good Shepherd on the ceiling of what is thought to have been a Roman noblewoman’s tomb, experts said.

A painting of St. Peter makes up the fourth member of the group, but older images of him are thought to exist, Vatican experts said.

Their inclusion in the tomb shows the aristocrats were among the last Romans to convert to Christianity, archaeologist Fabrizio Bisconti said.
The Roman matron must have been very rich, he said, as the colors and richness of the decoration show.

The images of the apostles’ heads and shoulders against a deep red background were uncovered after two years of work, Vatican experts said.


More here: http://www.apostolicnews.org/2010/07...s-of-apostles/
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Say it ain't so ... the apostles were bearded?

http://www.apostolicnews.org/wp-cont...Peter-John.jpg
The mosaic image of Peter (left) and John (right)

http://www.apostolicnews.org/wp-cont...ew-223x300.jpg
The mosaic image of Andrew

http://www.apostolicnews.org/wp-cont...ul-222x300.jpg
The mosaic image of Paul

BroGary 08-10-2010 04:12 PM
Re: Apostolic News: Oldest Images of Apostles foun
 
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Originally Posted by DAII (Post 949299)
Say it ain't so ... the apostles were bearded?
Interesting pictures, wonder if they had any way of being really sure of who they represented ?

Well, I don't know of any scripture in the Bible that forbids men to have a beard if they so choose, I think that since the 1960's many apostolics tended to avoid beards so as not to be associated with the hippie/drug culture of the 60's and 70's.

The scriptures do have something to say about men's hair that you would have expected the apostles to have obeyed -

1 Corinthians 11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

Twisp 08-10-2010 08:12 PM
Re: Apostolic News: Oldest Images of Apostles foun
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DAII (Post 949299)
Does anyone find the irony in this posting by the con Apostolic news outlet on the web ... ????

The oldest known image of the apostles Andrew and John have been discovered in catacombs under the city of Rome, dating back to the 4th century AD, archaeologists announced Tuesday.

The paintings were found in the same location where the oldest known painting of St. Paul was discovered last year, the Pontifical Commission for Sacred Archeology said Tuesday.

They are part of a group of paintings around an image of Jesus as the Good Shepherd on the ceiling of what is thought to have been a Roman noblewoman’s tomb, experts said.

A painting of St. Peter makes up the fourth member of the group, but older images of him are thought to exist, Vatican experts said.

Their inclusion in the tomb shows the aristocrats were among the last Romans to convert to Christianity, archaeologist Fabrizio Bisconti said.
The Roman matron must have been very rich, he said, as the colors and richness of the decoration show.

The images of the apostles’ heads and shoulders against a deep red background were uncovered after two years of work, Vatican experts said.


More here: http://www.apostolicnews.org/2010/07...s-of-apostles/
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Say it ain't so ... the apostles were bearded?

http://www.apostolicnews.org/wp-cont...Peter-John.jpg
The mosaic image of Peter (left) and John (right)

http://www.apostolicnews.org/wp-cont...ew-223x300.jpg
The mosaic image of Andrew

http://www.apostolicnews.org/wp-cont...ul-222x300.jpg
The mosaic image of Paul
That is cool as all get out. Like a window to the past. I am digging Paul's beard.

Sam 08-10-2010 09:16 PM
Re: Apostolic News: Oldest Images of Apostles foun
 
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Originally Posted by DAII (Post 949299)
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Say it ain't so ... the apostles were bearded?
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Some of the men may have been, I don't know about the ladies

mfblume 08-10-2010 09:17 PM
Re: Apostolic News: Oldest Images of Apostles foun
 
There is no way they had beards. No way!

:lol

Cindy 08-10-2010 09:46 PM
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I don't think so.

Scott Hutchinson 08-11-2010 09:32 PM
Re: Apostolic News: Oldest Images of Apostles foun
 
No bible agains't beards,it is a matter of personal preference.

Sam 08-11-2010 09:40 PM
Re: Apostolic News: Oldest Images of Apostles foun
 
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 949686)
No bible agains't beards,it is a matter of personal preference.
Oh yeah, well back about 30 years ago in his Sunday night sermon, my ALJC pastor said, "The Bible says that a man is supposed to be clean shaven."

Scott Hutchinson 08-11-2010 09:41 PM
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The good Elder was mistaken.

drummerboy_dave 08-11-2010 09:42 PM
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A very interesting find. Love the images. If I had to guess, I'd say at least some of the apostles had beards.

Scott Hutchinson 08-11-2010 09:43 PM
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Oh yeah they probably had beards and full sets of hair. I doubt any of them had a crew-cut.

Sam 08-11-2010 09:50 PM
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According to tradition, Paul was short, bald, and bow-legged.
That is how he is shown in the Mosaic above.

Michael 08-11-2010 09:55 PM
Re: Apostolic News: Oldest Images of Apostles foun
 
This is a lie, they didn't have facial hair at all!!!!
They are the founders of the WPF, and would never commit such sin.
This lie was made up by DA, he is attempting to distort the truth.

Sam 08-11-2010 10:07 PM
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I wonder if the Apostles were all clean shaven and had hair that did not touch their ears and that is also part of the identification of the "true church" which has existed in an unbroken line from the days of the apostles until now along with the One God and Acts 2:38 message.

Michael 08-11-2010 10:08 PM
Re: Apostolic News: Oldest Images of Apostles foun
 
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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 949711)
I wonder if the Apostles were all clean shaven and had hair that did not touch their ears and that is also part of the identification of the "true church" which has existed in an unbroken line from the days of the apostles until now along with the One God and Acts 2:38 message.
Well DUH!:bliss

Scott Hutchinson 08-11-2010 10:10 PM
Re: Apostolic News: Oldest Images of Apostles foun
 
One can preach ACTS. 2-38 and be full of the Spirit and have a beard.

drummerboy_dave 08-11-2010 10:11 PM
Re: Apostolic News: Oldest Images of Apostles foun
 
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 949716)
One can preach ACTS. 2-38 and be full of the Spirit and have a beard.
You know my Aunt Ruth? :ursofunny

Michael 08-11-2010 10:13 PM
Re: Apostolic News: Oldest Images of Apostles foun
 
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson (Post 949716)
One can preach ACTS. 2-38 and be full of the Spirit and have a beard.
Another lie from the pits of my arms:neener

Jack Shephard 08-12-2010 12:16 AM
Re: Apostolic News: Oldest Images of Apostles foun
 
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Originally Posted by Michael (Post 949706)
This is a lie, they didn't have facial hair at all!!!!
They are the founders of the WPF, and would never commit such sin.
This lie was made up by DA, he is attempting to distort the truth.
You are right! Lies all lies!


:bliss

MissBrattified 08-12-2010 12:27 AM
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Entertaining thread! :toofunny

RandyWayne 08-12-2010 12:49 AM
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Would anyone think less of the Peter the apostle if he ended up looking like Barney Fife's twin?

Sam 08-12-2010 07:02 AM
Re: Apostolic News: Oldest Images of Apostles foun
 
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 949762)
Would anyone think less of the Peter the apostle if he ended up looking like Barney Fife's twin?
Well, Barney Fife I could take,
Barney Frank, no

pelathais 08-12-2010 07:20 AM
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Looks like the UPC's Platform Committee prayed through just in time.

Michael 08-12-2010 06:34 PM
Re: Apostolic News: Oldest Images of Apostles foun
 
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 949762)
Would anyone think less of the Peter the apostle if he ended up looking like Barney Fife's twin?
No because everyone knows Pete was carnal at times....He almost got excommunicated from the WPF:ursofunny


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