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It's a joke, of course, as he takes credit of pull troops out of Iraq, will come back to bite him.

How long before the different denominations of Islam are going after it????

And since Obama ended it, he will get credit for the chaos that is about to explode? Right? Of course, it will be Bush's fault.

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I'm just glad some of the troops are coming home. A month from now there will be American soldiers living, breathing & loving their families that would have died had they stayed longer.

I'm now waiting on when the last 55k troops will get out of there.

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I flipped by that gawd aweful MSNBC last night and you would have thought this was the end of WW2. wacky.

then I flipped by all the other cable networks and they werent saying anything about it.

MSNBC is just a freak show.

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Was this the war where the surge wouldn't work but we won because of it?

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It was on CNN last night also. AC360 had a 15 minute or so segment on it.

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At least he is making the effort to make good on his commitment.

I applaud him for that.

This should free up more troops to go into Afghanistan so that we can properly finish that situation as well.

IMO, Iraq was never properly justified. Afghanistan, however, is a war that we must win and end only until we have conquered the Taliban and leave Afghanistan in a place better than it was before 9/11/01.

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A government owned media outlet.

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You're right there, JD. At least about the Afghanistan part of it. You're right on about that.

The wisdom of invading Iraq, the timing and the manner in which the "occupation" was planned (not planned!) are certainly points of controversy and will be for some time. However, according to the United Nations Security Council, Saddam had to go.

Saddam and his allies still alive in Iraq have no one to blame but themselves. They brought this all upon themselves.

Bush is responsible for the blood that followed. The guilt that he bears is that he brought the Western and world media into Iraq. The huge mass graves found all across Iraq testify to the fact that the bloodshed there was already ongoing and had been ongoing for decades. Saddam had just kept the media out.

Bush's biggest "crime" in Iraq is that he made the world sit up and pay attention to the suffering there. In the long run that may in fact benefit the Iraqi people as a whole.

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boy you aint kidding. bought and paid for by the radical commies who run General Electric.

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Me and Pat Buchanan agree on this one: GET OUT OF IRAQ!

Focus on Afghanistan, as it should have been originally.

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JD come on man,read the next line in the news release ,they ARE immediately sending 50,000 troops to iraq as "civilian helpers "snicker, snicker. they have brand new bases that hold 12,000 troops each in all areas of the country, the largest in the world, some surrounded by moats with all the latest technoogy for protection, with huge landing strips for all kinds of aircraft, not that you can get anywhere near them anyway because they are in the middle of the deserts.WE AINT GOIN ANYWHERE ,were there permanent,what a joke!

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I am a military vet, and I realize most soldiers don't realize, like I didn't realize before, that they are being used as pawns in the globalist chess game, I honor their sincerity, but am saddened at how their own governments have deceived them.

Modern wars have been deliberately orchestrated for some time now, even WWI and WWII, the global elite have had puppets in power on both sides whose true alligence is to the globalist elite and their vision of a one world government "utopia" (in their mind).

The rich globalist elite get even richer from war profits as well as push the world's population closer to giving up their nation's sovergnity in exchange for the "peace" of a one world government.

(we know it will happen because it is prophesied to happen, but it will be the evil one world government of the Antichrist)

In the U.S., John F. Kennedy was the last president to seriously try to thwart the globalist's agenda and you see what they did to him. If you listen to his speech against secret societies he gave to a group of the press, and how he tried to stop the unconstitutional Federal Reserve, you would know he was aware of the evil being orchestrated from behind the scenes by the global elite.

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Now BroGary, I wish the world worked the way your conspiracy theories would have it to be. I'm afraid the real truth is that we are at the mercy of a never ending line up of incompetent boobs.

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Well, I have researched this for quite a while and I assure you it is much more than a mere theory, even many of the people in positions of power have been quoted in reguards to their push for a one world government.

(besides, why should it be so hard to believe, it is prophesied in the Bible :-)

Here is a link to an excellent overview of the history of the "New World Order" written by an apostolic minister who has been studying this since about the 1970's -

http://kenraggio.com/KRPN-DevilinNWO.htm

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What's the "joke?"

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Who are these, "globalist elite"?

Do they have names?

Or will they always be the mysterious "they"?

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Check this out -

Here is a link to an excellent overview of the history of the "New World Order" written by an apostolic minister who has been studying this since about the 1970's -

http://kenraggio.com/KRPN-DevilinNWO.htm

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The joke is obama trying to prove he is pulling us out when they are sending 50,000 supposedly non combat , SUUUURE !

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Business Conglomerate General Electric will shell out $23.5 million to US market regulator SEC to settle charges that it was involved in illegal payments to Iraqi government ...

This happened 2 months ago. Are you smearing this GE?

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:ursofunny

this is all about the November elections

Obama is single handedly destroying the democratic party. :ursofunny

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BroGary,

You are correct I don't like what you posted. I am not a soldier but the son of a Navy WWII vet and the father of a United States Marine who served two tours in the Al Anbar province of Iraq when it was at its worst. Don't just dislike what you posted but think it is laughable conspiracy theory drivel. Perhaps the black helicoters will come take you away. Glad you know the Lord anyway and are a brother. It takes all kinds to make up the Kingdom of God! Thank heavens he didn't just save people who think like I do.

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Hmmmmm...so I guess there is something I like about Obama after all. LOL!!!

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The war is over? No one told me. So we were told we went over there to get the oil. So they are bringing it back?

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LOL!!! I heard some crazy old country singer in an interview swear up and down GWB went in so Haliburton could build an oil pipeline to Russia or somewhere.

The conspiracy theorists were out in full force with this war.

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The war is coming over here. Jihad declared in California. They will build a Mosque over there and look out.

It will be named Mickey Mosque.

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My town of 100,000 right outside Nashville has been in the news lately because they are building a 50,000+ sq ft "Islamic Center" including a Mosque about one mile from my home and only 5 minutes from MTSU, the second largest University in Tennessee. I am sure they see it as fertile ground to evangelize.

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So should I assume you do not believe the Bible prophesied there will be a one world government of the Antichrist ?

Because such an endeavour just does not happen overnight, but will be the result of some very long term plans that are on the verge of being fulfilled.

No offense intended to you personally, but people who outright scoff, usually have not seriously studied the huge amount of evidence, and fall for what the globalists figure many will fall for, that it is just far out conspiracy stuff.

Anyhow, for those who want to give it some serious study, there is a LOT of solid evidence available, here is a good place to start -

Here is a link to an excellent overview of the history of the "New World Order" written by an apostolic minister who has been studying this since about the 1970's -

http://kenraggio.com/KRPN-DevilinNWO.htm

The one world government of the Antichrist is a LOT closer than even many Christians fully realize !

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I've researched it since I was 11 years old. I am almost 50 now. The nebulous "global elites" that worry you are a class of "elites," but they hardly wield the power that you appear to think they do.

If WW1 and WW2 were such a success, why did these "elites" loose their empires and the vast fortunes that they were accumulating? One little bald headed "brown guy" managed to defeat the Rothschilds, the Bilderbergs, the Illuminati and the entire British Empire in 1948. What's up with that? He literally picked billions of Pounds Sterling in annual revenue from their pockets.

They don't seem so "all powerful" to me.

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Seems like you may have been studying some faulty research or disinformation.

We are on the verge of the Antichrist one world government, and the elite who worship Lucifer are behind it and they indeed have puppets in positions of power worldwide.

Study the info on this link for now -

http://kenraggio.com/KRPN-DevilinNWO.htm

There is a LOT more info I can share as I have time.

Got to run for now !

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Who said we were going "over there to get the oil?" That was the conspiracy nuts as CC1 points out.

Wrong again guys.

According to the way the media counts the length of this war, it has lasted "7 years and 5 months" - almost to the day. "That's longer than WW2!" they bewail.

But by using the same standard - the presence of American troops in the country we were at war with, WW2 never ended!

American troops are still stationed in Japan and Germany - even at this very moment. WW2 has never ended - by this standard.

Welcome to the 25,093rd day of World War Two.

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Good points. I do have to give our Socialist President props when it comes to Afghanistan. He at least has had enough sense to know we can't cut and run there. You know that has to drive his lib base nuts. They saw a future of perfect pacifism with The Annointed One. They will just have to settle for the socialization of America.

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Well yes, since I read a lot of the same stuff that you read I do have to admit that a lot of it is sort of kooky. However, I do try and cover a variety of sources. And then I do something you should try for yourself - I think independently. I critically evaluate the material I read. Try it. Look up those little footnotes that even Alex Jones likes to throw in there from time to time.

Ask questions. Hold these people's feet to the fire. Demand that they make sense. They either giggle like school girls or throw you out when you do. But you'll eventually get to the truth.
No we're not. And, no Lucifer does not. That's not to say that there aren't some very bad players out there, there are. But quit playing the same "blame game" Adam tried to pull on God back in the garden. The human race should be able to accept the responsibility for its own failings by now, shouldn't we?

I'm sure you do. See what happens when you start to hold people's feet to the fire and ask questions?

Ken Raggio is a pretty typical post trib type Dispensationalist. He has some original twists and often seems like a nice guy. I worked my way through Dispensationalism almost 15 years ago after spending a quarter of a century intensively investigating it. Nothing to see here, folks. Move along...

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For whatever reason, neither Bush nor Obama has had me sit in on any Presidential military briefings. It's probably because of the annoying way that I slurp my fruit smoothies through a straw... no matter,

But from what I have been able to glean, it seems that the Geneva Conventions actually provide a definition of what "combat operations" are. Therefore, the troops involved in any action fitting the description of "combat operations" in the Geneva Conventions would be "combat troops."

Those troops whose operations do not fit this description would NOT be "combat troops" - by definition. There are some quotes and explanations from officials of the International Red Cross in this article:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bal...,2950145.story

"Combat troops" are forces like our combat battalions that specialize in offensive operations. They are the "big guns." For the past few years they have been present in Iraq, but they have been mostly involved in police work and training the Iraqi forces.

It may seem like splitting hairs, but according the GC definitions that I've read, even things like "counter insurgency" operations are not technically a "combat operation."

The force that is initiating the combat is responsible for declaring when "combat operations" are to begin and when they have ceased. President Bush made that declaration in early May 2003; just a little over a month after they had begun. The International Red Cross concurred (hardly a Bush ally) as did the UN (ditto) and a host of international NGO's.

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:toofunny :toofunny

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Nothing personal, but you sure make a lot of wrong assumptions, for one, I really did have to run as I had to get ready to change shifts and leave work, now I am getting ready for bed, but I will be sharing a lot of solid documented info for the benefit those who have not been deceived by the globalist puppets into thinking it is all far out stuff.

Do YOU believe the Bible prophecy that there will be a one world government ruled by the Antichrist ?

Folks, don't take anyone else's word for anything STUDY the info out at the link below for YOURSELF -

http://kenraggio.com/KRPN-DevilinNWO.htm

I will be sharing more very good research on the New World Order as I have time, it is expected that there will be scoffers, but there are also those who might not post but will still read and learn what Satan's human puppets have been up to :-)

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Pelathais, Now here you go again trying to confuse people with the facts!! You are absolutely correct that there is most certainly a distinction between combat troops and other troops.

The 50,000 troops left in Iraq are not "going in" as the poster responding to you said. They are already there and are acting in defensive / support capabilities. They guard various strategic locations, people, etc (including the American Embassy) and are working on the infratstructure rebuilding in Iraq.

Combat troops are offensive troops that carry out combat missions proactively, not just in defense of an attack as the troops remaining will.

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There are Brigades still being sent into Iraq. There are troops still receiving orders to go. To announce broadly that Obama is keeping his promise and the last of the combat troops are leaving Iraq is a huge smoke screen.

When we send troops to Japan or Germany, their families go with them. When we send troops to Iraq, they are deployed and away from their families for approximately 12 months. They are still being deployed. They just aren't considered "combat troops" when they do. They will receive different training and perhaps do different things, but they will still go, they will still be injured by Iraqi explosives, and some will still die.

And the 55,000 troops doesn't even include the number of civilians we have over there.

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Exactly!!! It is a political ploy, and a dishonest one at that. The US is deeply ingrained in Iraq, two 100 million dollar embassy sites, plus four other branches. Billions per year will continue to be spent, IT IS NOT OVER.

It will be sad, if shortly it all falls apart and the billions of investment are for naught, except for taking out Saddam. Bush was not able to disable all of the axis of terrorism that he intended to do, therefore the many of the virus were killed, but the disease will rebound as soon as the weak antibiotics are removed.

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No dishonesty here.

He has always stated that he intends to pull "combat troops" out.

It's not a smokescreen.


Besides, if he was to pull all troops out (like some would like) he'd be roundly criticized as pulling a "cut and run" tactic and accused of nullifying the the work and sacrifices of the troops who have bled and died in Iraq.


Another situation where in politics, no matter what a person does, he will be criticized.

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Most people in the US don't realize "combat troops" does not denote "entire military," though. The things people object to most will not stop just because "combat troops" leave.