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Falla39 08-28-2010 10:56 AM
Restoring honor, Glenn Beck, Wash., DC
 
http://www.ustream.tv/restoringhonor

commonsense 08-28-2010 11:35 AM
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I caught part of the speech on cspan. Powerful.

Falla39 08-28-2010 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 956053)
I caught part of the speech on cspan. Powerful.
My son sent me the link but it was well into the speech, but I saw enough
to know it was successful. Did you see the Dave ?? that prayed the closing
prayer! The man who lost his face because of the grenade going off in his
hand. He prayed a powerful prayer. I would love to have a video or DVD of
the entire Rally! One of my brothers, wife and grown son are there!

Falla39

Dedicated Mind 08-28-2010 03:22 PM
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it's on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX0EJ_GjC18

Falla39 08-28-2010 04:44 PM
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Thanks, Dedicated Mind!

Archived:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/295231-1

Falla39

coadie 08-28-2010 05:03 PM
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“I hope that Dr. King would be so proud of us, as his niece Dr. Alveda King
is very proud as a participant in this rally,” Palin says. “This is sacred ground where we feel his spirit and can appreciate all of his efforts. He who so believed in equality and may we live up to his challenge.”

Dr King opposed racism, abortion and several other leftist mandates.

DAII 08-28-2010 06:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by coadie (Post 956112)
“I hope that Dr. King would be so proud of us, as his niece Dr. Alveda King
is very proud as a participant in this rally,” Palin says. “This is sacred ground where we feel his spirit and can appreciate all of his efforts. He who so believed in equality and may we live up to his challenge.”

Dr King opposed racism, abortion and several other leftist mandates.
Putting Dr. King, Palin and Glenn Beck in the same breath is LAUGHABLE ....
Coadie. Too bad Nugent was un-invited to headline ... that would have been death by hilarity.

Praxeas 08-28-2010 06:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DAII (Post 956126)
Putting Dr. King, Palin and Glenn Beck in the same breath is LAUGHABLE ....
Coadie. Too bad Nugent was un-invited to headline ... that would have been death by hilarity.
Why do you say that? I know the man is a fiscal conservative and loves to hunt. What does he say or believe that would have been a problem?

DAII 08-28-2010 06:29 PM
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Nugent is a racist misogynist whose 2007 Love Grenade tour epitomizes DISHONOR.

http://glennbeckreport.com/wordpress...10/08/Nuge.jpg

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He told the Detroit Free Press that South African blacks (in the context of a discussion on Apartheid) “still wear bones in their noses…[and] wipe their butts with their hands”. During a 2007 performance on his “Love Grenade” tour, he screamed into the microphone “Obama, he’s a piece of ****, and I told him to suck on my machine gun”.

He announced recently at a performance in a Dubuque, Iowa casino that he was happy “there’s a lot of white people in this crowd—I like that!” and went on to congratulate Dubuque for being “a white town”. In 1994 Nugent said about Hillary Clinton in an interview with Westworld Newspaper: “You probably can’t use the term ‘toxic c*nt’ in your magazine, but that’s what she is … This *itch is nothing but a two-bit whore for Fidel Castro.” His opinion of Hillary Clinton and other women in the Democratic party hasn’t changed much since the 1994 interview. During the “Love Grenade” performance cited above, he called Clinton a “worthless *itch” and while waving an assault rifle suggested that she should “ride one of these into the sunset”. He also referred to Senators Feinstein and Boxer as “*itches” and “whores”.
http://www.nraleaders.com/ted-nugent.html

It's too bad he didn't stick with his pre-release album cover ...

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The pre-release cover shows a nude brunette woman with her hands tied behind her back kneeling on a platter of vegetables (imitating the presentation of a roast pig dinner) with a hand grenade hanging out of her mouth. Nice. A nice honorable bondage photo on your CD.
http://glennbeckreport.com/?s=nugent

Good thing the heretical Mormon still keeps him as a guest on the show.

Praxeas 08-28-2010 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DAII (Post 956132)
Nugent is a racist misogynist whose 2007 Love Grenade tour epitomizes DISHONOR.

http://glennbeckreport.com/wordpress...10/08/Nuge.jpg



http://www.nraleaders.com/ted-nugent.html

It's too bad he didn't stick with his pre-release album cover ...



http://glennbeckreport.com/?s=nugent

Good thing the heretical Mormon still keeps him as a guest on the show.
Beck is a mormon?

DAII 08-28-2010 06:35 PM
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Dr. King was very far from being a "fiscal conservative" in the mold of Palin and Beck ...

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We must develop a program that will drive the nation to a guaranteed annual income. Now, early in this century this proposal would have been greeted with ridicule and denunciation, as destructive of initiative and responsibility. At that time economic status was considered the measure of the individual's ability and talents. And, in the thinking of that day, the absence of worldly goods indicated a want of industrious habits and moral fiber. We've come a long way in our understanding of human motivation and of the blind operation of our economic system. Now we realize that the dislocations in the market operations of our economy and the prevalence of discrimination thrust people into idleness and bind them in constant or frequent unemployment against their will. Today the poor are less often dismissed, I hope, from our consciences by being branded as inferior or incompetent. We also know that no matter how dynamically the economy develops and expands, it does not eliminate all poverty.

The problem indicates that our emphasis must be twofold. We must create full employment or we must create incomes. People must be made consumers by one method or the other. Once they are placed in this position we need to be concerned that the potential of the individual is not wasted. New forms of work that enhance the social good will have to be devised for those for whom traditional jobs are not available.

[A Testament of Hope, Page 247
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call our demonstration a campaign for jobs and income because we feel that the economic question is the most crucial that black people, and poor people generally, are confronting. There is a literal depression in the Negro community. When you have mass unemployment in the Negro community, it's called a social problem; when you have mass unemployment in the white community, it's called a depression. The fact is, there is major depression in the Negro community. The unemployment rate is extremely high, and among negro youth, it goes up as high as forty percent in some cities.

We need an economic bill of rights. This would guarantee a job to all people who want to work and are able to work. It would also guarantee an income for all who are not able to work. Some people are too young, some are too old, some are physically disabled, and yet in order to live, they need income. It would mean creating certain public-service jobs, but that could be done in a few weeks. A program that would really deal with jobs could minimize -- I don't say stop -- the number of riots that could take place this summer.

[...]

We need to put pressure on Congress to get things done. We will do this with First Amendment activity. If Congress is unresponsive, we'll have to escalate in order to keep the issue alive and before it. This action may take on disruptive dimensions, but not violent in the sense of destroying life or property: it will be militant nonviolence.

[...]

In any event, we will not have been the ones who will have failed. We will place the problems of the poor at the seat of government of the wealthiest nation in the history of mankind. If that power refuses to acknowledge its debt to the poor, it would have failed to live up to its promise to insure "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to its citizens."

[A Testament of Hope: The Essential Writings and Speeches of Martin Luther King Jr., Pages 67-69]

DAII 08-28-2010 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 956133)
Beck is a mormon?
Yep.

DAII 08-28-2010 06:36 PM
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King on Marx and Traditional Capitalism:

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Yet, in spite of the fact that my response to communism was and is negative, and I considered it basically evil, there were points at which I found it challenging. The late Archbishop of Canterbury, William Temple, referred to communism as a Christian heresy. By this he meant that communism had laid hold of certain truths which are essential parts of the Christian view of things, but that it had bound up with them concepts and practices which no Christian could ever accept or profess. Communism challenged the late Archbishop and it should challenge every Christian -- as it challenged me -- to a growing concern about social justice. With all of its false assumptions and evil methods, communism grew as a protest against the hardships of the underprivileged. Communism in theory emphasized a classless society, and a concern for social justice, though the world knows from sad experience that in practice it created new classes and a new lexicon of injustice. The Christian ought always to be challenged by any protest against unfair treatment of the poor, for Christianity is itself such a protest, nowhere expressed more eloquently than in Jesus' words: "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, to preach the acceptable year of the Lord."

[...]

But in spite of the shortcomings of his analysis, Marx had raised some basic questions. I was deeply concerned from my early teen days about the gulf between superfluous wealth and abject poverty, and my reading of Marx made me ever more conscious of this gulf. Although modern American capitalism had greatly reduced the gap through social reforms, there was still need for a better distribution of wealth. Moreover, Marx had revealed the danger of the profit motive as the sole basis of an economic system: capitalism is always in danger of inspiring men to be more concerned about making a living than making a life. We are prone to judge success by the index of our salaries or the size of our automobiles, rather than by the quality of our service and relationship to humanity -- thus capitalism can lead to a practical materialism that is as pernicious as the materialism taught by communism.

In short, I read Marx as I read all of the influential historical thinkers -- from a dialectical point of view, combining a partial "yes" and a partial "no." In so far as Marx posited a metaphysical materialism, an ethical relativism, and a strangulating totalitarianism, I responded with an unambiguous "no"; but in so far as he pointed to weaknesses of traditional capitalism, contributed to the growth of a definite self-consciousness in the masses, and challenged the social conscience of the Christian churches, I responded with a definite "yes."

My reading of Marx also convinced me that truth is found neither in Marxism nor in traditional capitalism. Each represents a partial truth. Historically capitalism failed to see the truth in collective enterprise, and Marxism failed to see the truth in individual enterprise. Nineteenth century capitalism failed to see that life is social and Marxism failed and still fails to see that life is individual and personal. The Kingdom of God is neither the thesis of individual enterprise nor the antithesis of collective enterprise, but a synthesis which reconciles the truths of both.
Great job ... MediaMatters on pointing out FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN KING AND BECK

Dr. King was in the middle and atypical with a compass that pointed towards social justice. A true Christian thinker. Not a "Christian right" clone or a parrot for a Fox Informercial. Beck isn't a pimple on his ....

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201008250037#2

Jermyn Davidson 08-28-2010 07:25 PM
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Beck did nothing to restore honor today. All he did was further polarize.

I respect him even less now.


I started not to type this, but I changed my mind. It appears to me that Beck caters to many people from many walks of life, to include white people who be a bit racist, but know how to dress it up and make it presentable with the disguise of legitimacy.

It's like having that 6th sense that a person really doesn't mean anything for your good, but there's no real proof. Yet you know inside that something just isn't right and that you should be careful.


The fact that he at one time wanted Nugent involved with this venue shows me where his heart is today.

Today, either he wanted to cater to people who find him acceptable, or he finds him acceptable.

DAII 08-28-2010 07:31 PM
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King ... like the men at the merger was a PACIFIST who didn't see America as a LIBERATOR ... there was a time the old paths was CONSCIENTIOUS SCRUPLES ... not bringing God into our violence to attain influence, wealth and power using nationalism as an opiate.

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This is a calling that takes me beyond national allegiances, but even if it were not present I would yet have to live with the meaning of my commitment to the ministry of Jesus Christ. To me the relationship of this ministry to the making of peace is so obvious that I sometimes marvel at those who ask me why I am speaking against the war. Could it be that they do not know that the good news was meant for all men -- for Communist and capitalist, for their children and ours, for black and for white, for revolutionary and conservative? Have they forgotten that my ministry is in obedience to the one who loved his enemies so fully that he died for them? What then can I say to the "Vietcong" or to Castro or to Mao as a faithful minister of this one? Can I threaten them with death or must I not share with them my life?

Finally, as I try to delineate for you and for myself the road that leads from Montgomery to this place I would have offered all that was most valid if I simply said that I must be true to my conviction that I share with all men the calling to be a son of the living God. Beyond the calling of race or nation or creed is this vocation of sonship and brotherhood, and because I believe that the Father is deeply concerned especially for his suffering and helpless and outcast children, I come tonight to speak for them.

This I believe to be the privilege and the burden of all of us who deem ourselves bound by allegiances and loyalties which are broader and deeper than nationalism and which go beyond our nation's self-defined goals and positions. We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy, for no document from human hands can make these humans any less our brothers.

Strange Liberators

And as I ponder the madness of Vietnam and search within myself for ways to understand and respond to compassion my mind goes constantly to the people of that peninsula. I speak now not of the soldiers of each side, not of the junta in Saigon, but simply of the people who have been living under the curse of war for almost three continuous decades now. I think of them too because it is clear to me that there will be no meaningful solution there until some attempt is made to know them and hear their broken cries.

They must see Americans as strange liberators. The Vietnamese people proclaimed their own independence in 1945 after a combined French and Japanese occupation, and before the Communist revolution in China. They were led by Ho Chi Minh. Even though they quoted the American Declaration of Independence in their own document of freedom, we refused to recognize them. Instead, we decided to support France in its reconquest of her former colony.

Our government felt then that the Vietnamese people were not "ready" for independence, and we again fell victim to the deadly Western arrogance that has poisoned the international atmosphere for so long. With that tragic decision we rejected a revolutionary government seeking self-determination, and a government that had been established not by China (for whom the Vietnamese have no great love) but by clearly indigenous forces that included some Communists. For the peasants this new government meant real land reform, one of the most important needs in their lives.
From UPCI's Articles of Faith:

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Conscientious Scruples


We recognize the institution of human government as being of divine ordination, and, in so doing, affirm unswerving loyalty to our Government; however, we take a definite position regarding the bearing of arms or the taking of human life.


As followers of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace, we believe in implicit obedience to His commandments and precepts which instruct as follows: "That ye resist not evil" (Matthew 5:39 KJV); "Follow peace with all men" (Hebrews 12:14 KJV). (See also Matthew 26:52; Romans 12:19; James 5:6; Revelation 13:10.) These we believe and interpret to mean Christians shall not shed blood nor take human life.


Therefore, we propose to fulfill all the obligations of loyal citizens, but are constrained to declare against participating in the combatant service in war, armed insurrection, property destruction, aiding or abetting in, or the actual destruction of human life.


Furthermore, we cannot conscientiously affiliate with any union, boycott, or organization which will force or bind any of its members to belong to any organization, perform any duties contrary to our conscience, or receive any mark, without our right to affirm or reject same.


However, we regret the false impression created by some groups of so-called conscientious objectors that to obey the Bible is to have a contempt for law or magistrates, to be disloyal to our Government and in sympathy with our enemies, or to be unwilling to sacrifice for the preservation of our commonwealth. This attitude would be as contemptible to us as to any patriot. The Word of God commands us to do violence to no man. It also commands us that first of all we are to pray for rulers of our country. We, therefore, exhort our members to freely and willingly respond to the call of our Government except in the matter of bearing arms. When we say service, we mean service - no matter how hard or dangerous. The true church has no more place for cowards than has the nation. First of all, however, let us earnestly pray that we will with honor be kept out of war.


We believe that we can be consistent in serving our Government in certain non-combatant capacities, but not in the bearing of arms.


We further believe that our military personnel must live in a manner consistent with the Articles of Faith.

Hoovie 08-28-2010 07:38 PM
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Wish I could have been there - sounds fantastic.

True, King did not embrace capitalism nor was very supportive of our government, but he did stand up for equal rights for all races and in that sense he is like Palin and Beck. Give honor where honor is due.

coadie 08-28-2010 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 956154)
Wish I could have been there - sounds fantastic.

True, King did not embrace capitalism nor was very supportive of our government, but he did stand up for equal rights for all races and in that sense he is like Palin and Beck. Give honor where honor is due.
We have
Social conservatives
Fiscal conservatives
and other conservative factors.

MLK was against abortion. That is as far from all the folks on the left as it gets.
Rights for the unborn.

DAII 08-28-2010 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 956149)
Beck did nothing to restore honor today. All he did was further polarize.

I respect him even less now.


I started not to type this, but I changed my mind. It appears to me that Beck caters to many people from many walks of life, to include white people who be a bit racist, but know how to dress it up and make it presentable with the disguise of legitimacy.

It's like having that 6th sense that a person really doesn't mean anything for your good, but there's no real proof. Yet you know inside that something just isn't right and that you should be careful.


The fact that he at one time wanted Nugent involved with this venue shows me where his heart is today.

Today, either he wanted to cater to people who find him acceptable, or he finds him acceptable.
God mixed in a soup of 17th century deism, Enlightenment philosophy and theocratic, patriotic rhetoric served up by a tri-theist .... and swallowed whole by those who spiritualize politics and rejoice at the altar of Tea Partyism and Republicanism.


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having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.

6They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth. 8Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men oppose the truth—men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

Paul's Charge to Timothy

10You, however, know all about my teaching, my way of life, my purpose, faith, patience, love, endurance, 11persecutions, sufferings—what kinds of things happened to me in Antioch, Iconium and Lystra, the persecutions I endured. Yet the Lord rescued me from all of them. 12In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, 13while evil men and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, 15and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Hoovie 08-28-2010 07:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by coadie (Post 956156)
We have
Social conservatives
Fiscal conservatives
and other conservative factors.

MLK was against abortion. That is as far from all the folks on the left as it gets.
Rights for the unborn.
I agree Coadie. Abortion is most often the deciding factor in my votes. It IS the greatest question of the day.

DAII 08-28-2010 07:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by coadie (Post 956156)
We have
Social conservatives
Fiscal conservatives
and other conservative factors.

MLK was against abortion. That is as far from all the folks on the left as it gets.
Rights for the unborn.
John F Kennedy and Obama personally are against abortions .... even gay marriage.
:blah :blah :blah

And Stalin was for the rule of law.

canam 08-28-2010 08:05 PM
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Beck was raised RC but sometime in the late 90s he and his wife joined an LDS church.

canam 08-28-2010 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DAII (Post 956159)
John F Kennedy and Obama personally are against abortions .... even gay marriage.
:blah :blah :blah

And Stalin was for the rule of law.
Yep, JFK And BO wouldnt murder anyone themselves but, if any one else wants to, thats ok. Great cahones. Having said that, mentioning those 2 in same sentence is laughable. Although, JFK ate and breathed testosterone compared to BO. B.O.makes U.S. stink !

DAII 08-28-2010 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by canam (Post 956172)
Yep, JFK And BO wouldnt murder anyone themselves but, if any one else wants to, thats ok. Great cahones. Having said that, mentioning those 2 in same sentence is laughable. Although, JFK ate and breathed testosterone compared to BO. B.O.makes U.S. stink !
You make my point beautifully sharing one or two beliefs ... MEANS JACK (pun intended). There are even layers and dynamics to those shared beliefs.

But to capitalize on Dr. King's legacy and the Civil rights movement and proclaim you are "reclaiming the Civil rights movement" during your nationalistic soirée/revival meeting attended OVERWHELMINGLY by middle aged whites is just as LAUGHABLE, OPPORTUNISTIC AND DISINGENOUS .

This was a campaign launch for the socialist from Alaska.

canam 08-28-2010 08:56 PM
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If you dont think the white race and the christian way of life is under attack, i beg to differ, it is being attacked, by too many illegals when they demand that they be given everything including citzenship, they enter illegally, but its not supposed to be criminal, they totally ignore the laws.Assimilate like every other race that has emigrated here, learn the language, work AND pay taxes, stop trying to make us do what you want , the muslims want sharia law in this country,not all of them, but too many.These are just a couple examples,of OUR civil rights being under attack. Why is it a racist thing for a white conservative to rally us for our rights? Sorry that aint cutting it in this fairness doctrine era thankfully we have that still,even though that too is under attack by the left whackos. Dont try to make this a black vs white thing like pelosi,waters and their ilk. PS there would be alot of african americans at these rallies but their afraid of being called uncle toms, another lefty divide and conquer tactic.The(competing rally) was nothing more than race baiting by Al Sharpton, who has been doing that every since the Tawana Brawley fiasco.

Monkeyman 08-28-2010 09:26 PM
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Beck = Dr.King??? Really?? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah......hahahahahahahah ahahahahahahah.spits up drink....hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Monkeyman 08-28-2010 09:27 PM
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...hahahahahahahahahaha

Mr. Smith 08-28-2010 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 956197)
Beck = Dr.King??? Really?? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah......hahahahahahahah ahahahahahahah.spits up drink....hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Exactly.

Monkeyman 08-28-2010 09:45 PM
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I bet Arizona won't have a problem with Glen Beck Day like they did with MLK Day!

Hoovie 08-28-2010 11:39 PM
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This is kind of weird. You all and some in the media make this Beck - King comparison, yet at the real event It was Washington and Lincoln that was honored with King. What gives?

aegsm76 08-29-2010 12:38 AM
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If MLK had belonged to the UPCI, this forum would have ripped him apart.
No, Beck is not MLK.
And MLK is not MLK.
An early death has a way of making someone bigger than they were.
MLK was a great speaker and writer, but he was a man and had all the faults thereof.
In faithfulness to his wife, Beck appears to be a far greater man than MLK was.

canam 08-29-2010 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 956266)
This is kind of weird. You all and some in the media make this Beck - King comparison, yet at the real event It was Washington and Lincoln that was honored with King. What gives?
Now your injecting common sense into this argument cant be doing that Hoov.Typical lefties hide and distract the arguments.As if there is any comparison there.

canam 08-29-2010 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 956270)
If MLK had belonged to the UPCI, this forum would have ripped him apart.
No, Beck is not MLK.
And MLK is not MLK.
An early death has a way of making someone bigger than they were.
MLK was a great speaker and writer, but he was a man and had all the faults thereof.
In faithfulness to his wife, Beck appears to be a far greater man than MLK was.
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup PS who says HE wrote the speeches ? And a far greater man in a lot of other areas too,and dont even go there on Becks substance abuse problems when he was younger,if your mother committed suicide no telling what you would do without Gods help.Hence Becks searching and study on many religions. He even contemplated suicide himself and was a Cobain fan at the time.

coadie 08-29-2010 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 956158)
I agree Coadie. Abortion is most often the deciding factor in my votes. It IS the greatest question of the day.
Isn't abortion one of the non negotiable absolutes. I have less problem with libs stealing money from us to hand over to their friends than supporting abortion.

Mr. Smith 08-29-2010 08:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 956270)
If MLK had belonged to the UPCI, this forum would have ripped him apart.
No, Beck is not MLK.
And MLK is not MLK.
An early death has a way of making someone bigger than they were.
MLK was a great speaker and writer, but he was a man and had all the faults thereof.
In faithfulness to his wife, Beck appears to be a far greater man than MLK was.

The haters love to point this out about King as if somehow this dismisses all he accomplished. Beck has problems too, not the least of which is his arrogance.

DAII 08-29-2010 09:46 AM
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No one is dumb enough to equate Dr. King and Beck unless you're Coadie or some other kool-aid sychophant who thinks Dr. King would somehow be a Tea Partyer.

Even Beck was wise enough in recent days to remark in the last couple of days saying, "I'm no Martin Luther King" ... Well NO DUH, CAPTAIN OBVIOUS ....

but remember that whole "Ground Zero Mosque" argument that is centered around ... "You may have the constitutional right to do something but it doesn't make it wise or right to do so"? We're going to protest our disgust ... no matter what because that's our right?

Well ... that's what many are saying here .... a self-proclaimed history buff claims to innocently re-schedule his initial rally date because it was "on the Sabbath" ... code for Sunday ... and so chooses in similar fashion to have a mass demonstration at the same location on the same sacred day in our American history ... while chalking it up to "divine providence" after realizing his faux pas ... having read about the coincidence in the *chuckle* New York Times.

All the while, promoting this Fox News informercial with:

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discussions of the rally's supposedly crucial role in American history which have included frequent invocations of the civil rights movement, and Martin Luther King Jr. in particular. According to Beck, the rally will "reclaim the civil rights movement" because "Martin Luther King's dream" has "been distorted" and "massively perverted" by progressives. In attacking the people he claims are "perverting" King's legacy (i.e. progressives), Beck has suggested that he and his followers are the "inheritors and the protectors of the civil rights movement." In Beck's words, they will "take that movement, because we were the people that did it in the first place."
Reclaim the Civil Rights Movement because your faction is the inheritors and protectors of the movement ... buuuuuuuuuaaaaaawwwwwwhaaaa.

Mr. Smith ... agree the height of arrogance.

Also ....consciously pimping a known homophobe, Alveda King, a cousin, on stage as a not-so-subtle link to legitimize the poor choice in scheduling.

As Martin Luther III graciously remarked in his Washington Post Op-ed piece:

Quote:
My father championed free speech. He would be the first to say that those participating in Beck's rally have the right to express their views. But his dream rejected hateful rhetoric and all forms of bigotry or discrimination, whether directed at race, faith, nationality, sexual orientation or political beliefs. He envisioned a world where all people would recognize one another as sisters and brothers in the human family. Throughout his life he advocated compassion for the poor, nonviolence, respect for the dignity of all people and peace for humanity.
However, it doesn’t take much reading between the lines to realize the rest of the essay appears to speak directly to Glenn Beck, without mentioning his name:

Quote:
He [King] did, however, wholeheartedly embrace the "social gospel." His spiritual and intellectual mentors included the great theologians of the social gospel Walter Rauschenbush and Howard Thurman. He said that any religion that is not concerned about the poor and disadvantaged, "the slums that ........ them, the economic conditions that strangle them and the social conditions that cripple them[,] is a spiritually moribund religion awaiting burial." In his "Dream" speech, my father paraphrased the prophet Amos, saying, "We will not be satisfied until justice rolls down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream."
This might explain why his son didn't attend the "Honor" rally but opted to attend the counter-rally down the street aptly called "Reclaiming the Dream".

And I guarantee his son is against abortion too.

Consistency, thou art a jewel.

deadeye 08-29-2010 10:02 AM
Re: Restoring honor, Glenn Beck, Wash., DC
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DAII (Post 956326)
No one is dumb enough to equate Dr. King and Beck unless you're Coadie or some other kool-aid sychophant who thinks Dr. King would somehow be a Tea Partyer.

Even Beck was wise enough in recent days to remark in the last couple of days saying, "I'm no Martin Luther King" ... Well NO DUH, CAPTAIN OBVIOUS ....

but remember that whole "Ground Zero Mosque" argument that is centered around ... "You may have the constitutional right to do something but it doesn't make it wise or right to do so"?

Well ... that's what many are saying here .... a self-proclaimed history buff claims to innocently re-schedule his initial rally date because it was "on the Sabbath" ... code for Sunday ... and so chooses in similar fashion to have a mass demonstration at the same location on the same sacred day in our American history ... while chalking it up to "divine providence" after realizing his faux pas ... having read about the coincidence in the *chuckle* New York Times.

All the while, promoting this Fox News informercial with:



Reclaim the Civil Rights Movement because your faction is the inheritors and protectors of the movement ... buuuuuuuuuaaaaaawwwwwwhaaaa.

Mr. Smith ... agree the height of arrogance.

Also ....consciously pimping a known homophobe, Alveda King, on stage as a not so subtle link to legitimize the poor choice in scheduling.

As Martin Luther III graciously remarked in his Washington Post Op-ed piece:


However, it doesn’t take much reading between the lines to realize the rest of the essay appears to speak directly to Glenn Beck, without mentioning his name:



This might explain why his son didn't attend the "Honor" rally but opted to attend the counter-rally down the street aptly called "Reclaiming the Dream".

And I guarantee his son is against abortion too.

Consistency, thou art a jewel.

That right there is unnecessary, filthy, and deserves an infraction.

Vulgarity doesnt belong on a Apostolic forum....and that phrase "T__ B______" is as crude as they come

DAII 08-29-2010 10:21 AM
Re: Restoring honor, Glenn Beck, Wash., DC
 
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Originally Posted by deadeye (Post 956330)
That right there is unnecessary, filthy, and deserves an infraction.

Vulgarity doesnt belong on a Apostolic forum....and that phrase "T__ B______" is as crude as they come
Just looked it up and see there are multiple meanings... as my intent was not vulgarity ... didn't even know that was one of its meanings thanks to Urban Dictionary. Good to know you're on top of those types of things.

I have no problem ... editing it.

Would hate to allow you to obfuscate and flop for a foul without addressing the core of what was said.

DAII 08-29-2010 03:04 PM
Re: Restoring honor, Glenn Beck, Wash., DC
 
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Originally Posted by Monkeyman (Post 956210)
I bet Arizona won't have a problem with Glen Beck Day like they did with MLK Day!
I'm sure Sheriff Arpaio will have his day as well.

Praxeas 08-29-2010 03:24 PM
Re: Restoring honor, Glenn Beck, Wash., DC
 
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Originally Posted by canam (Post 956186)
If you dont think the white race and the christian way of life is under attack, i beg to differ, it is being attacked, by too many illegals when they demand that they be given everything including citzenship, they enter illegally, but its not supposed to be criminal, they totally ignore the laws.Assimilate like every other race that has emigrated here, learn the language, work AND pay taxes, stop trying to make us do what you want , the muslims want sharia law in this country,not all of them, but too many.These are just a couple examples,of OUR civil rights being under attack. Why is it a racist thing for a white conservative to rally us for our rights? Sorry that aint cutting it in this fairness doctrine era thankfully we have that still,even though that too is under attack by the left whackos. Dont try to make this a black vs white thing like pelosi,waters and their ilk. PS there would be alot of african americans at these rallies but their afraid of being called uncle toms, another lefty divide and conquer tactic.The(competing rally) was nothing more than race baiting by Al Sharpton, who has been doing that every since the Tawana Brawley fiasco.
Are you serious? What in the world does ANY of that have to do with an attack on whites and the christian way of life? Do you feel like you are being compelled to go fornicate or get drunk because illegals are crossing over?

I swear, this post sounds like a confused montage from the ultra far right and some neo nazi's all jumbled incoherently together

BTW not all other races assimilate like that either. Their kids assimilate.

BroGary 08-29-2010 03:46 PM
Re: Restoring honor, Glenn Beck, Wash., DC
 
An interesting article I found online that I figure some should appreciate, even though I know there will always be the scoffers also.

Note: the Luciferian globalists control the major media and they will only allow what is called "controlled opposition", which are "wolves in sheep's clothing" who say enough truth to be believable, but will then direct their listeners away from knowing who all are really behind the scenes controlling the puppets that they have put in place.

(quotes from the article, followed by a link to the entire article)

"The masses are bribed with "social services" and fooled by the "Left - Right" conflict. Both Left and Right serve monopoly capital."

"The purpose of the phony opposition is to co-opt the opposition and discourage any genuine grass roots political movement from starting. Their mission also is to fight trivial battles and distract us from the stealth establishment of world government."

http://www.henrymakow.com/confessions_of_a_dupe_me.html


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