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The scary part about listening to Terry Jones explain why he wants to burn the Koran on 9-11? He sounds like several of you here on AFF that argue against building a mosque near Ground Zero.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqddR5UTNP8

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I think the news caster and the pastor where in competition to see who could make the dumbest remarks.

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Actually I see what this pastor is doing and the proposition to build a mosque adjacent to Ground Zero as inflamatory actions. Both moves are extremely inconsiderate and both actions deserve denunciation. Those who oppose the building of the mosque should also oppost the burning of the Koran for the same reason. It perpetuates this "war", it perpetuates "hatred", it only stands to incite protest and even potential violence.

Both those proposing the mosque and the burning of the Koran should be ashamed.

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*BUMP* for Aquila

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I guess the comparison between Pastor Jones and the Muslim memorial at ground zero is this:

The Muslims have a constitutional right to build there but is a very inflammatory and inconsiderate action.

The Pastor has a constitutional right to burn the Quran but it is a very inflammatory and inconsiderate action.

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Good old violent Rick Sanchez. The low moral dirtbag.
are you aware of this Rick Sanchez Moment In Time?


Now does Rick Sanchez set moral standards? Hit and run Rick.
Watch him get all righteous with a preacher.

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Charisma online editorial


Wednesday, 08 September 2010 08:08 AM EDT
J. Lee Grady Newsletters - Fire In My Bones

Just Say No to Anti-Muslim Bigotry

Terry Jones, the Florida pastor who plans to burn copies of the Quran on 9/11, does not speak for charismatic Christians.


Most of us reacted with a collective groan when we learned that the pastor of a small charismatic church in Gainesville, Fla., said he plans to burn copies of the Quran on Sept. 11. I was especially disappointed because I lived in Gainesville in my 20s. This man's irresponsible plot has put a bustling college town in the crosshairs of a possible terrorist attack—and has made evangelical Christians look like intolerant goons.


I'd like to go on the record to say this: Rev. Terry Jones does not speak for charismatic Christians, and his brand of fire-breathing judgmentalism doesn't even remotely resemble the message of Jesus Christ. I am praying that he will repent and renounce his outrageous intentions before the time arrives to strike the first match.

While moderate Muslims in the United States view this as a woeful hate crime (think how you would feel if Muslims planned to burn Bibles on Christmas Day), some radical Islamic jihadists in other parts of the world have anonymously threatened to bomb Jones' church (which has shrunk to 30 members since he unveiled his plan.)

Most people, including the majority of Christians in Gainesville, view Jones as a misguided religious zealot. After all, members of his church wear "ISLAM IS OF THE DEVIL" T-shirts—and they even have coffee mugs bearing the phrase. The New York Times reported last week that Jones packs a pistol because he receives death threats.


He also told the newspaper that he plans to go through with his plan to incinerate copies of the Quran even though the local fire department has denied him a burning permit.


The National Association of Evangelicals (NAE), which represents numerous Pentecostal denominations and charismatic fellowships, denounced Jones' actions in a recent statement. "The NAE calls on its members to cultivate relationships of trust and respect with our neighbors of other faiths. God created human beings in His image, and therefore all should be treated with dignity and respect," the statement said.
Contrary to what Jones and his followers believe, Jesus Christ condemned hateful religious intolerance. When He and His disciples entered a Samaritan village, and the Samaritans were less than hospitable, James and John told Jesus they wanted to call down fire from heaven on the whole place (see Luke 9:54).


Jesus flatly rebuked them, saying: "You do not know what kind of spirit you are of; for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them" (v. 55-56, NASB).


Notice that James and John were eager to strike a match and conduct their own vengeful bonfire. In their immaturity they thought they could advance Christ's kingdom by fighting fire with fire. But Jesus contradicted their misdirected zeal and showed them that when we are opposed, the only way to win is through patience, compassion and forgiveness.


When Jesus was about to be arrested in the Garden of Gethsemane, an impetuous Peter came to His rescue and sliced off a slave's right ear. Jesus immediately healed the poor guy (don't you love the fact that Jesus can fix our stupid blunders?) and then rebuked Peter's crazed militarism by saying: "Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword" (Matthew 26:52).


Jesus never carried protest signs or staged book-burnings. If that had been His strategy, His disciples would have marched through Jerusalem with placards that said: "PROSTITUTION IS OF THE DEVIL," "UNFAIR TAXATION IS OF THE DEVIL" or "CAESAR WORSHIP IS OF THE DEVIL." All those sins are truly devilish, but you can't change people's behavior by condemning their actions. The only way anyone can ever find freedom from sin or satanic strongholds is by having a personal encounter with Christ.


The apostle Paul, whom we are called to imitate, didn't rattle swords or organize protests either. And even though he was inwardly irritated by the idolatry in Athens (see Acts 17:16), he preached to the men on Mars Hill about an unknown God who loved them. He did not insult them, call down fire on them or pull out a weapon. He knew that our Christian "warfare"—our invisible struggle with sin, deception and false gods—is not "according to the flesh" (2 Cor. 10:4). Rather, it involves humble acts like prayer and friendship evangelism.


Perhaps this embarrassing fiasco in Gainesville will help remind us how we are supposed to share the gospel with an unbelieving world: We do it with the same kind of unconditional love Jesus showed to the sinners, tax-collectors, prostitutes, lepers, Roman soldiers, pagans, homeless beggars and religious hypocrites He transformed.

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War and hatred. That is what the inside of the Quran pushes. It mandates violence. Kill the infidel.

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Mr. Smith, put the broad brush up.

I don't advocating provoking the pagans. They're always looking for a reason to kill innocent "infidels". I do advocate putting the Koran where it belongs, peacefully and quitely, in the trash can.

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The low drama method. Remember they were ordered to not translate it for the original Arabic. Translated versions expicially are trash by their standards.

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This pastor is not acting like a Christian.

Even Jesus did not respond like this or teach His disciples to respond like this to those who reject the Gospel.


In fact, the only people Jesus was ever "rough" with were the religious folks.

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True, however neither was Jesus touting the right for pagans to build a temple for Diana in Jerusalem.

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Jesus wasn't liberal. he also opposed abortion. Libs all vote for abortion but a few say they are against it. We look at deeds and not words. If you vote for a pro abortion candidate you are pro abortion. Muslims favor abortion after people are born.
The fake support of the Muslim brotherhood is a stunt by the left to act all superior and righteous.

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The Old Testament also incites this behavior. Not just kill, but kill everything. Imagine the modern day Church under Old Testament Law; think about us stoning anyone found in adultery.

Religion is the "Spark" for most, if not all, Wars on this planet. When God is drawn into a man's corner, he feels justified to destroy those who disagree with, or disobey an opinion that they think is most definitely God's idea. Follow David or Saul down the road of slaughtering the “Heathens” or “Infidels” of that day.

Look at America. We put, "In God We Trust" on our money, and say, "One Nation Under God" in our pledge. When going to a battlefield, we take these with us for cause and security, giving us purpose to fire off another round or drop another bomb.

Whether we like it or not, the Bible is full of violence and murder. The Bible is also full of hope and forgiveness, which I imagine can be found in the Quran.

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Who is Rick Sanchez?

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The quran doesn't directly offer hope, salvation, redemption or remission iof sins. They do say there are scales and if your good is more than bad, then maybe you are ok.

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Doesn't take long for someone to come up with something new to incite arguments on AFF.
Not dialog, not discussion, but arguing and hateful conversations. Lord, help us all to follow your lead, not mans.

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Wow I see Terry Jones when I read your ridiculous posts. BTW coadie your hero Muslim fighter got run out of his church in Germany. His people are still seeing Dr's because of this nut.

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Those to which I referred are gradually appearing.:lol I'll be Coadie's gonna be lighting the match Saturday.

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I don't know why anyone would think burning a book is going to change anything.

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Which means to kill Mr Smith too, if the opportunity presents itself, by the way unless of course he aint an infidel, which is entirely possible given his supportive ramblings."Each one kill one" is the quran motto.Great religion.

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Ah yes, another one appears! I'm reeling in quite a catch with my fishing pole post! :lol

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Yes Mr Sanctimonius, we are all here.Puff Puff ! Let me guess, Carly Simon is your fav singer.We all know the song that fits you !!

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I like all the 60's hippy songs about peace and love!:)

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Never mind the fishing pole or the bait just tool by, ill jump right into your boat kinda like those fish down south that do that ? What do they call them crappies?apt description of your ramblings:)

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You have two types of posts:

1) Posts that don't make any sense;
2) Posts that do make sense.

The benefit of your posts that don't make any sense? They make you look smarter than your posts which do make sense.

So you sound a bit smarter here because this one doesn't make any sense.

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Sweeet !

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:lol

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If Smith had the chance, he would burn the UPCI for hurting him....:ursofunny


Wait, that wasn't funny was it?:tissue:sad

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Old hippies. many of the are into the environmental craziness now.

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Blame the body of Christ. Thinks he is superior to the saints.

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:ursofunny:thumbsup

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I was thinking of the Simon song ,Your So Vain, course he doesnt listen to that evil music.

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I prefer Jimi Hendrix "Star Spangled Banner" at Woodstock.

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Coadie, could you proofread your posts so someone can understand what you're saying?

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:ursofunny

there's one to use in church service, MS. Get them sinners repentin'. :toofunny

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Interesting thought but no, not funny, really.

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It's actually, "You're So Vain" not "Your So Vain" but I doubt if canum can tell the difference.

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I wonder what some people that think like him would think if Muslims and people of Islamic faith would start to burn the Bibles like the interviewer asked. I think that it is really ludicris and very childish. I have some very, very good friends that are Muslims. They are not as radical as they are painted by this wacko preacher. He does not speak for me. I don't agree with the Koran, but I won't burn it. That is just plain dumb and I would leave this church or any church that wanted to do that.

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If I were to say that there is more violence in the bible than the koran...would that be an accurate statement?