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What election coverage will you be watching? Fox, CNN or MSNBC? I will be switching between CNN and MSNBC after the Miami heat game. Any predictions? Deacon has predicted a "Tsunami", yeah right. Post your reaction to election day coverage and results here people. I'll be up late into the night. (maybe)

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I won't be watching any.

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There's no sense in getting all shook up about it now. What's done is done. I won't be following it.

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I won't be home until some time between 9 and 10 EST.
We'll watch FOX.

Predictions?

Prediction number 1:
Republican gains in House and Senate but not a veto proof majority.

Prediction number 2:
lots of posturing and pontificating but not much action by the legislature with its new makeup.
Obamacare will not be reversed, rescinded, or revised
No Marriage amendment
No repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell
Bush Tax cuts reinstated by Legislature but vetoed by President
Less bailouts and stimulus legislation for the next two years
no impeachment of President
I think this will be pretty much of a "do nothing" legislature resulting in a backlash against Republicans in 2012 and re-election of BHO should he choose to run

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Hoping to catch up on my DVR'd programs........or sleep.

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Unfortunately you're probably right. But that's better than cap and trade and card check passing. And just maybe we can lower our unemployment rate. I'd really like my husband to be making money.

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And what exactly is "his agenda"......


Obama: Agenda 'all at risk' in any Republican romp
By MARK S. SMITH, AP
41 minutes ago


WASHINGTON — Even with voting already under way, President Barack Obama furiously worked the phones to urban-format radio stations Tuesday, arguing that his agenda would be "all at risk" if Republicans trampled Democrats.

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I'm not going to watch MSNBC....I don't want to take the risk of listening to Matthews talk about getting more tingles.
Hasn't he ever heard of depends anyway?

I've listened more to local radio then the TV.

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Republicans take the House. Is this the tsunami everyone expected?

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No I'm talking about a historic turnover, not just Republicans winning the House. In 1994 the GOP gained 52 seats. I say a "tsunami" would be anything over that number. That would be a history making change. No party has had a change higher than 55 since 1932 when the Dems and FDR swept in on the heels of the Depression.

I'll be watching Fox, MSNBC, CNN, ABC.

Fox just called the Wisconsin Senate race for Johnson against RUSS FEINGOLD an 18 year veteran!

Another race in the House called for a Republican defeating a Democrat of 28 years!

I called it back when Obamacare passed against public sentiment that this Election Day would be a "bloodbath". In the words of Reverend Jeremiah Wright, it looks like Obama's healthcare chickens have come home to roost...

This election is a strong repudiation of Obama's agenda.

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Then you know the proven historical trends .... Deek the Geek?

Prez wins next time 'round.

I will send you a special care package for 2012 ....

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No, DA, I'm afraid this is more like Jimmy Carter headed to 1980 and Ronald Reagsn than Bill Clinton in 1994

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Who's your Ronald Reagan ... and your Reagan Democrats?

Your Achilles heel .... the Tea Party. Watcha' gonna do with yourself to 2016?

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Matthews has been critical of Obama lately, guess he wanted to jump on the wave. Or else BO isn't leftist enough for him.

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If Chris Christy chooses to run, he would win in a landslide. Not sure if he's interested.

The Tea Party isn't an Achilles Heel! They just won 5 Senate seats and 13 House races. They will keep the GOP leadership honest, but more experienced legislators that didn't get as much media attention won most of the Senate seats and House seats.

No, Obama will be the deal breaker come 2012. He is no Bill Clinton. He is an ideologue. He won't move to the center. He will continue to promote way too liberal policies, he will continue with an arrogant approach and he won't possess the charisma of Bubba.

Save your care package. Your gonna need it for yoself! The economy will in the end defeat BO come 2012. These people won't be able to stop spending (Dems and GOP).

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What are you talking about? The economy is growing, albeit slowly, in part due to the stimulus bill he passed. By the time the next Presidential Election rolls around, there will be a strong track record of the economy getting better. That is going to help in 2012, not hurt.

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Alright Repubs... you've gotten your chance. Repeal the Health Care Bill or we will repeal you.

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Yes, last chance on the Republican Party for me.

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Don't they have to get a majority vote from both the Senate and the House in order to repeal it? I don't see them getting that from the Senate.

Interesting article on it:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Healt...ry?id=11668055

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They can cut funding. Yes. Just don't pay for it.

Remember the Dems were expected to draft a budget for next year and forgot their to do list.

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No they can't. They need a majority vote in the Congress to do that, as well.

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Prove it. If they sign no budget, spending stops at some point. :blah

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They don't have enough to repeal obamacare. They do have enough to cut funding to parts of it. This was a good victory, but for those of you who are looking to the Repubs for "one last chance" I'm afraid your going to be a little disappointed. They simply did not win enough. They will be able curb Obamas spending and control, but they dont have enough to pass any new help for the country. Which means the next two years will look pretty lame duck.

The biggest factor will be the Bush tax cuts. If somehow they can keep them in play then the economy will come back fairly quickly. If not it will be pretty slow going for the next two years. Companies simply are not hiring knowing they are about to be taxed to no end come first of the year.

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I think there is a chance that they come a little to the right, just to get things done. Of course, they have accomplished a good bit of what they wanted already.

Their other avenue of action is to try and pass bills, let the Republicans gridlock everything, and point that out to the voters in 2012.

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:beatdeadhorse
Ask Pelosi and Waxman. :tissue

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I was agreeing with Digging on giving the Republican Party this last chance to redeem themselves. I wasn't commenting on repealing Obamacare. We wouldn't have a Tea Party if the Republicans had stayed true to their values, but it does show that the American people are watching, listening and willing to fight. That is a great day, any day, for American values.

The stark truth is that Obama is the one that signs the bills. The House has the purse strings and we can try putting in riders to allocate where the money goes and what we want to fund, but at the end of the day - the President almost always wins a government shutdown.

We have a long road to hoe, and it's going to take a lot of hard work. DeMint has a great article in the WSJ - instructions to the Senate Conservatives. Good advice and hoping they will follow.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...Tabs%3Darticle

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I am not looking for him to change any of his arrogancy the last two years. He is going to push as much of his Socialist agenda as he can. He's the pawn and he is willing because that is who he is. He was groomed for it.

I wish that I could pull up the post that I made three or four years ago when I said, "They are grooming this man for something." Didn't think it was the presidency, but I saw something in the works. You could certainly feel it. And I don't mean a "tingle up my leg". LOL!

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It's not going to be seen as a gridlock by the republicans, it's going to be seen as Obam not willing to reach a compromise. And you might want to consider the fact that the bills that have been passed were just rejected.

You'll have to wait a few more generations to get your socialist uptopia, there's still just enough Americans left who want to see the constitution upheld.

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Republicans would have had to win a VETO PROOF majority in both houses to repeal healtcare.


What they can do for the next two years, is pass (in the house) bills that repeal the most unpopular aspects of the bill and keep pressure on Obama to either admit mistakes or defend the indefensable.

Not winning the senate gives the republicans cover (according to Joe Trippy a major democrat stratigist). Obama cant simply point at a do-nothing republican congress and run against that.

Republicans have a real chance to move things to the center and take credit for any economic rebound.

they also are well positioned to say that the stimulus bill may be providing very slow growth but it could have been far better if it had not contained so much deficit spending.

That doesnt mean beans if the economy is booming in 2012. If things are really good and unemployment is below 6% Obama gets re-elected no matter who runs against him. It might very well be that repbulcans gain the Senate and have a stronger control of the house but fail to win the Whitehouse because Americans may very well remember the very good days of Clinton/Gringrich.

and (and this is really important) Republicans will have zero chance of beating Obama if there is a conservative third party run at the presidency.

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"The Republican Party is being told to be the party of "no". No more stimulus spending, no cap and trade, no card check, none of this other stuff. Gridlock is not an American problem, it's an achievement. The framers of our Constitution didn't want an efficient government, they wanted a safe government. To which end, they filled it with slow end and blocking mechanisms - three branches of government, two branches of the legislative branch, a veto-veto override, super majority and judicial review. When we have gridlock, the system is working." - George Will

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

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Ferd,
Do you think this is still going to prove true given the volatile climate which forged the Tea Party Movement? They were very instrumental is turning this election around. It doesn't feel like the same old, same old, IMO.

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My take?

It was a landslide/Tsunami... whatever you want to call it and it was the best possible scenario for the republicans.


Not winning the Senate was likely a good thing for Republicans. it keeps Obama from simply running against congress.

But the real story is that that Republicans won HUGE in governor races and they won in very important swing states in the Mid West.

Secondly Republicans won BIG in State Legislatures again in those vital swing states with lots of House members.

This is a census year and these Republicans in these houses and governors offices will be redrawing congressional districts and building state wide party machines that will help the Republican in the 2012 elections.

this will be the second cencus in a row with strong Republican controll of redistricting. That is a HUGE advantage that can go a long way to building a massive wall against democrats regaining control of the House.

THAT is the real landslide in this election.

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Agreed. And what Gingrich has said, "There are 159 new offices, agencies, and commissions in this new bill," Gingrich explained. "All you say is, we're not gonna fund them. And you have in effect, stopped the project." :thumbsup

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The econonmy trumps everything. it always has.

the good news for Republicans is that Obama seems committed to the same kind of policy that Japan has used, and which gave them the "lost decade"

the wild card here is Afghanistan. if that goes south on him he is done big time.

Republicans will be able to say that he neither withdrew nor went all in and that dalling around doing neither could be a real sour spot for American voters.

We are tired of war. Democrats wont be able to say "rebulicans got us into this" because all those Republicans are gone.

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and they need to do them piecemeal

just a few at a time. Keep pressure for 2 years on Obama to defend the things that 75% of Americans HATE

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:thumbsup

Ariana Huffington is eating her words today. LOL!

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