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Ferd 11-05-2010 12:37 PM

MSNBC Fires Keith Olberman!
 
And all the good Americans celebrated.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...40-503544.html

coadie 11-05-2010 12:48 PM

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He was on the bubble. he had suspended the worlds worst person piece. The network has new ownership and I suspect he was doing damage that boosted the Republican movement more than expected. We see a firing not called for by Muslims or Jesse jackson. How rare for the left to do something right for a change.

Dedicated Mind 11-05-2010 01:29 PM

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Olbermann is "suspended" not fired. He could come back.

Digging4Truth 11-05-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 983937)
Olbermann is "suspended" not fired. He could come back.

Well let's hope not.

I'm pretty tolerant of people with opposing views in most cases but Olberman (and a few others) will not be missed by me.

Ferd 11-05-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 983937)
Olbermann is "suspended" not fired. He could come back.

you are corrrect. I appologize.

in a moment of utter giddiness, I miss stated.

i had visions of Overbite standing on a street corner panhandling for food...

Dedicated Mind 11-05-2010 01:46 PM

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How does this compare to Fox giving millions to the RNC and Govenor Kasich? right or wong for a media company to give donations? It seems that msnbc has a higher standard than fox.

Sabby 11-05-2010 02:08 PM

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This is the Facebook post I made the morning after.

"I tuned to CNN last night; Wolf Blitzer was hosting the segment. He had two lists posted on the screen labeled: PALIN WINS; PALIN LOSSES. Observations. One: An obvious predilection towards labeling the "losses" in Delaware, Nevada and California as "PALIN LOSSES". Two: An obsession with Sarah Palin. Three: Never mentioning this as a mandate or a landslide".

If you're honest you'll admit that there has been aLOT more Palin bashing from MSNBC than Obama bashing on Fox. Beck and Hannity are ideologically driven, but every other show is much more balanced than anything I've ever watched on MSNBC. I also tuned to NBC Tuesday night to check out their coverage. Brian Williams looked so sad I thought he was going to cry and Andrea Mitchell was talking about a republican that had been declared a winner but there was a 60,000 vote messup that needed to be thoroughly "investigated".

Just a question. Why is it when democrats get elected we hear it called a time for "change" and "hope", but when republicans are, it's because they're "angry"? Kinda hypocrital, imo.

Ferd 11-05-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 983947)
How does this compare to Fox giving millions to the RNC and Govenor Kasich? right or wong for a media company to give donations? It seems that msnbc has a higher standard than fox.

how does it compair?

It is utter nonsense that NBC has such a stupid rule for one of its liberal comentators.

Its one thing for a hard hitting reporter who is supposed to give unbiased new to jump on board with a politician.

it is entirely something else for a keith olberman or even an MSNBC to give money to candidates they openly support on thier shows or that they as a station openly support.


Look, the suspension or firing or what ever is NOT about this money. If NBC is getting rid of him, it is for something entirely different, like they dont like his ratings or they dont like his direction.

MSNBC just got new ownership and I suspect this is about the new owners exercising some musle.

pelathais 11-05-2010 02:16 PM

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Olbermann was using his show to promote the candidacy of Rep. Grijalva from Arizona. He had Grijalva on many times and always featured him in a very favorable manner. That Olbermann also contributed to this guy's coffers is hardly a surprise.

Congressman Grijalva should have been forced to declare an "In Kind" contribution from MSNBC for his appearances on Olbermann's show.

Ferd 11-05-2010 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 983964)
Olbermann was using his show to promote the candidacy of Rep. Grijalva from Arizona. He had Grijalva on many times and always featured him in a very favorable manner. That Olbermann also contributed to this guy's coffers is hardly a surprise.

Congressman Grijalva should have been forced to declare an "In Kind" contribution from MSNBC for his appearances on Olbermann's show.

I am neither shocked nor offended by this. Olberman and MSNBC are liberals with an agenda of pushing liberal politicians.

You might as well have said that KO sees blue when he looks skyward on a clear day.

What is shocking to me is that NBC has decided they have "standards" all the sudden.

bottom line here is NBC has decided that getting rid of KO is good for business.

Jermyn Davidson 11-05-2010 04:03 PM

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I disagree with MSNBC's decision.

I believe FOX allows their employees to donate and participate as along as it does not affect the performance of their duties.

I don't like Olberman's style at all.

Still for him to be suspended because he gave his own money to a political candidate whose views he supported seems like his own rights are being infringed upon.


I see this as another assault on freedom, despite how it is dressed up.

MissBrattified 11-05-2010 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 984007)
I disagree with MSNBC's decision.

I believe FOX allows their employees to donate and participate as along as it does not affect the performance of their duties.

I don't like Olberman's style at all.

Still for him to be suspended because he gave his own money to a political candidate whose views he supported seems like his own rights are being infringed upon.

As liberal as NBC is, they still have a policy (e.g., rule) that Olbermann violated:

"The fact that MSNBC's Keith Olbermann is a progressive liberal Democrat should come as no surprise to American news viewers. Nonetheless, NBC News policy, which also applies to MSNBC, clearly says that donating money to any candidate is a violation, as, "these activities jeopardize his or her standing as an impartial journalist because they may create the appearance of a conflict of interest."--Source

Sounds reasonable to me. :coffee2

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
...I see this as another assault on freedom, despite how it is dressed up.

NBC has the right to put policies in place to protect the impartiality, perceived or otherwise, of its journalists and newscasters.

Sam 11-05-2010 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 984036)
As liberal as NBC is, they still have a policy (e.g., rule) that Olbermann violated:

"The fact that MSNBC's Keith Olbermann is a progressive liberal Democrat should come as no surprise to American news viewers. Nonetheless, NBC News policy, which also applies to MSNBC, clearly says that donating money to any candidate is a violation, as, "these activities jeopardize his or her standing as an impartial journalist because they may create the appearance of a conflict of interest."





NBC has the right to put policies in place to protect the impartiality, perceived or otherwise, of its journalists and newscasters.

I don't think it is right for an employer like NBC to say that an employee may not donate money to a political candidate or party.

sandie 11-05-2010 06:05 PM

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It's probably more due to the fact nobody watched his show.
Ratings matter and if they're under new owners they're probably cleaning house.
Good riddence, imo.

MissBrattified 11-05-2010 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 984038)
I don't think it is right for an employer like NBC to say that an employee may not donate money to a political candidate or party.

Whether it's right or not is really not the issue; if they had a pre-existing policy in place, and he was aware of it and violated it, that's on his head; not NBC.

Personally, I think companies whose goal is to act in the public interest (as journalists are, in reporting "unbiased facts") have good reason to put policies in place that protect their journalists' impartiality in the eyes of the public.

Obvious biases exist on every network, including FOX, and it has led to an overall distrust of the media. Some of these networks would do well to clean up their image and restore some lost trust in their reporting.

canam 11-05-2010 06:20 PM

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In my state, repubs took all three, gov, senate and house first time since early sixties,the gov is the first franco american gov. in history. Lived on the streets at 11 from a family of 18 children, very abusive home, graduated from college with masters after being taken in by two different families, probably the most conservative gov. in country.I cant wait til he starts taking an axe to this ridiculous spending. We arent know as the welfare capitol for nothing.

MissBrattified 11-05-2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by canam (Post 984050)
In my state, repubs took all three, gov, senate and house first time since early sixties,the gov is the first franco american gov. in history. Lived on the streets at 11 from a family of 18 children, very abusive home, graduated from college with masters after being taken in by two different families, probably the most conservative gov. in country.I cant wait til he starts taking an axe to this ridiculous spending. We arent know as the welfare capitol for nothing.

What does this have to do with the suspension of Keith Olbermann? :blink

berkeley 11-05-2010 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 984054)
What does this have to do with the suspension of Keith Olbermann? :blink

How often do threads make it to page three BEFORE going off topic? :bliss

MissBrattified 11-05-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Berkley (Post 984059)
How often do threads make it to page three BEFORE going off topic? :bliss

Usually it's a gradual drift, though. That post was cold turkey. :D

berkeley 11-05-2010 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 984062)
Usually it's a gradual drift, though. That post was cold turkey. :D

:toofunny

coadie 11-05-2010 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 983979)
I am neither shocked nor offended by this. Olberman and MSNBC are liberals with an agenda of pushing liberal politicians.

You might as well have said that KO sees blue when he looks skyward on a clear day.

What is shocking to me is that NBC has decided they have "standards" all the sudden.

bottom line here is NBC has decided that getting rid of KO is good for business.

We have a winner. That ugly network discovered the majority in America is conservative. Conservatives don't watch liberal garbage. Over 600 Republicans were added to state legislatures and 600 less Dems. MSNBC discovered if they allowed less grotesque commentary, they may one day get some of FoX' audience.

Ferd 11-05-2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 984007)
I disagree with MSNBC's decision.

I believe FOX allows their employees to donate and participate as along as it does not affect the performance of their duties.

I don't like Olberman's style at all.

Still for him to be suspended because he gave his own money to a political candidate whose views he supported seems like his own rights are being infringed upon.


I see this as another assault on freedom, despite how it is dressed up.

evidently the difference was Fox guys are open and honest.

KO was blasting foxnews for giving to the republicans all the while he was doing the same.

Now I have already said, i dont think KO did a single thing wrong with his giving to the candidates of his choice. I dont even have an issue with the apparent hypocrisy. its no different from all the other forms of hypocrisy Mr KO dishes out every day...

but this wasnt about the money anyway. it was about NBC having reached a decision that suspending KO was good for business.

WATCH THE LEFT HAND WHEN THE RIGHT HAND STARTS MOVING...

Pressing-On 11-06-2010 06:31 AM

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"Suspended"? Looks like a publicity stunt to me.

Socialite 11-06-2010 11:06 AM

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Is this a good time to talk about campaign finance reform in general?

Jermyn Davidson 11-06-2010 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 984188)
evidently the difference was Fox guys are open and honest.

KO was blasting foxnews for giving to the republicans all the while he was doing the same.
Now I have already said, i dont think KO did a single thing wrong with his giving to the candidates of his choice. I dont even have an issue with the apparent hypocrisy. its no different from all the other forms of hypocrisy Mr KO dishes out every day...

but this wasnt about the money anyway. it was about NBC having reached a decision that suspending KO was good for business.

WATCH THE LEFT HAND WHEN THE RIGHT HAND STARTS MOVING...



Can you say, "... all the while..."

Didn't he blast them BEFORE he evidently decided that maybe he should do what they do instead of criticizing them?

The campaigns he donated to are recent.

His criticisms of Fox are of old.

coadie 11-06-2010 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 984343)
Can you say, "... all the while..."

Didn't he blast them BEFORE he evidently decided that maybe he should do what they do instead of criticizing them?

The campaigns he donated to are recent.

His criticisms of Fox are of old.

One of the recipients of his large donations is a Marxist socialist congress buddy of yours named Conyers.



notofworks 11-06-2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 984250)
"Suspended"? Looks like a publicity stunt to me.


Pressing-On, I agree with you.

None of this made sense until last night on Facebook when several of my liberal friends started posting a link praising NBC for doing what Fox News would never do. Several Fox folks contribute to conservative candidates and Fox does nothing about it.

Now, you people know that I am NOT a Conservative apologist, but I know Hogwash when I see it. I'd be willing to bet this was pre-arranged and Olbermann knew it was coming in advance and is simply taking a vacation.

canam 11-06-2010 06:41 PM

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Nothing wrong with him donating ? except he signed a contract (7 mil. per year) which had language in it saying he couldnt, so he got what stupids should get.

Jermyn Davidson 11-06-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 984363)
One of the recipients of his large donations is a Marxist socialist congress buddy of yours named Conyers.



Go suck an egg Coadie. I don't know the guy and I don't have any marxist friends.

notofworks 11-06-2010 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 984403)
Go suck an egg Coadie. I don't know the guy and I don't have any marxist friends.


:toofunnyI'm willing to bet a hundred dollars that's not what you really wanted to say.

MissBrattified 11-06-2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 984407)
:toofunnyI'm willing to bet a hundred dollars that's not what you really wanted to say.

What do you think he meant? :coffee2

notofworks 11-06-2010 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 984419)
What do you think he meant? :coffee2


I plead the 5th and any other constitutional amendment that will keep me out of trouble!!:lol

But I would refer you to the thread about V. Larson's language!

coadie 11-06-2010 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 984403)
Go suck an egg Coadie. I don't know the guy and I don't have any marxist friends.

Not that you admit in public?

Your marxist expressions regarding greed and corporations is discussed in Das Kapital by Karl Marx.

Quote:

Marx preached the fiery rhetoric of class warfare, explaining to the mesmerized workers that revolution was not only the sole answer to their difficulties but was indeed inevitable.
Every time we read rants about greedy corporations.


Mein Kampf is about the struggles of the workers.

canam 11-07-2010 05:21 AM

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JD is a marxist sympathizer ? I knew it !

coadie 11-07-2010 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by canam (Post 984474)
JD is a marxist sympathizer ? I knew it !

Too many quotes from Karl Marx. Progessives say they have new ideas. Boy was I dissappointed.

canam 11-07-2010 07:00 AM

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Their ideas are just recycled socialist ideas that they claim as original .Now Bo says he needs to make a midstream correction! What a joke.He acts so shocked that people just dont agree with him.

deacon blues 11-07-2010 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind (Post 983947)
How does this compare to Fox giving millions to the RNC and Govenor Kasich? right or wong for a media company to give donations? It seems that msnbc has a higher standard than fox.

NBC's parent company, GE, donates lots of money to Democrat candidates. Pure hypocrisy. KO had just spent a diatribe on Fox's parent company NewsCorp and its donations to GOP candidates.

tstew 11-07-2010 10:46 PM

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Olberman is already scheduled to return:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20101108/cm_yblog_upshot/keith-olbermann-returns-to-msnbc-on-tuesday




...but I'm sure he learned a lot in these last two days...

Praxeas 11-08-2010 01:16 AM

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deacon blues 11-08-2010 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tstew (Post 984652)
Olberman is already scheduled to return:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20101108/cm_yblog_upshot/keith-olbermann-returns-to-msnbc-on-tuesday




...but I'm sure he learned a lot in these last two days...

I suppose MSNBC made the calculation that since his show drew their largest audience they ought to bring him back quickly. Yet his audience is smaller than Sponge Bob Squarepants! It was a decision to guarantee remaining in the cellar of cable news versus tanking into the abyss.

However, I must admit I enjoy "Morning Joe" above all the other morning shows. "Fox and Friends" drives me crazy. Steve Ducey and Brian Kilmeade just don't strike me as serious journalists and I can't hardly stand to watch them. Joe Scarborough is conservative but isn't a GOP party hack. I've seen him take on the many liberals on MSNBC and hold his own. Yet he is more than willing to bust the chops of the GOP when he disagrees with them. I like his balance. He and Olbermann have clashed before on the air and Scarborough made KO look like an amateur.


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