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Digging4Truth 11-16-2010 06:46 AM

Visualizing Obama's $100 Million Budget Cut
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWt8hTayupE

sandie 11-16-2010 06:53 AM

Re: Visualizing Obama's $100 Million Budget Cut
 
Someone put this guy on TV...around the clock.

coadie 11-16-2010 06:53 AM

Re: Visualizing Obama's $100 Million Budget Cut
 
Obama cleary denies not getting the message. He will however try to take credit for ideas and not give credit to the Republicans.
Now the Dems are against earmarks. Why? They don't want the enemy to use a system they abused.

Digging4Truth 11-16-2010 06:57 AM

Re: Visualizing Obama's $100 Million Budget Cut
 
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Originally Posted by sandie (Post 988292)
Someone put this guy on TV...around the clock.

Yeah... since posting this here I have found that he has more visualizations up as well. This is such a simple concept but it sure does open the eyes of the public because these big numbers in the millions & billions & trillions are beyond most peoples ability to perceive in relation to one another.

His youtube account is 10000pennies

http://www.youtube.com/user/10000Pennies

sandie 11-16-2010 07:03 AM

Re: Visualizing Obama's $100 Million Budget Cut
 
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 988296)
Yeah... since posting this here I have found that he has more visualizations up as well. This is such a simple concept but it sure does open the eyes of the public because these big numbers in the millions & billions & trillions are beyond most peoples ability to perceive in relation to one another.

His youtube account is 10000pennies

http://www.youtube.com/user/10000Pennies

It's a scam on the American people to make them think he's making such a big cut...but, that's how these politicans keep winning. They count on, thrive upon and hope beyond hope not too many people will look deep into what's really happening.

I hope this video makes a huge difference.

coadie 11-16-2010 07:18 AM

Re: Visualizing Obama's $100 Million Budget Cut
 
For most of the Bush years, the federal budget for education was in the 50 billions.
In 2009 they jacked it up by 100 billion to 150 billion plus. Now if we go back to the old pattern, the Teacher's unions will howl about nasty and severe cuts. It takes 2 seconds for people to get comfy with a one time gift being a long term expectation.

This is a phenomena first named as reverse innelasticity of demand by Thorstan Veblin.

Digging4Truth 11-16-2010 07:22 AM

Re: Visualizing Obama's $100 Million Budget Cut
 
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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 988309)
For most of the Bush years, the federal budget for education was in the 50 billions.
In 2009 they jacked it up by 100 billion to 150 billion plus. Now if we go back to the old pattern, the Teacher's unions will howl about nasty and severe cuts. It takes 2 seconds for people to get comfy with a one time gift being a long term expectation.

This is a phenomena first named as reverse innelasticity of demand by Thorstan Veblin.

There's no need for a federal education entity. The states can handle their own education regulations. They need to save the 50-100-150 billion and shut the federal education oversight down.

coadie 11-16-2010 07:25 AM

Re: Visualizing Obama's $100 Million Budget Cut
 
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 988311)
There's no need for a federal education entity. The states can handle their own education regulations. They need to save the 50-100-150 billion and shut the federal education oversight down.

Not so. Obama comes from the Annenburg Challenge. If the feds can give moneys, they can tack on education mandates and order the schools what to tell the kids.

The D.C. school system is the worst and the most expensive in America. It is directly funded by Congress and reminds people how the feds need to stay away from education.

Digging4Truth 11-16-2010 07:26 AM

Re: Visualizing Obama's $100 Million Budget Cut
 
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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 988313)
Not so. Obama comes from the Annenburg Challenge. If the feds can give moneys, they can tack on education mandates and order the schools what to tell the kids.

The D.C. school system is the worst and the most expensive in America. It is directly funded by Congress and reminds people how the feds need to stay away from education.

Then I repeat. There is no need for the federal education entity.

coadie 11-16-2010 07:33 AM

Re: Visualizing Obama's $100 Million Budget Cut
 
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 988314)
Then I repeat. There is no need for the federal education entity.

I think that burst of spending was just to send a message to the Unions that the libs luv the NEA and other unions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2PwE...layer_embedded

$234,000 dollar base pay for a superintendant?

Sam 11-16-2010 10:20 AM

Re: Visualizing Obama's $100 Million Budget Cut
 
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 988311)
There's no need for a federal education entity. The states can handle their own education regulations. They need to save the 50-100-150 billion and shut the federal education oversight down.

I often thought, "What does a politician or bureaucrat in Washington D.C. have to do with my child's education here in Ohio?" But, I wonder if we still went by "states' rights" and no federal intrusion, would we still have segregation and inferior schools for certain ethnic groups under the old "separate but equal" philosophy.

Abraham Lincoln pretty well destroyed the 10th amendment in his day and the feds have been kicking it while it is down ever since.

Jermyn Davidson 11-16-2010 10:21 AM

Re: Visualizing Obama's $100 Million Budget Cut
 
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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 988293)
Obama cleary denies not getting the message. He will however try to take credit for ideas and not give credit to the Republicans.
Now the Dems are against earmarks. Why? They don't want the enemy to use a system they abused.

Actually, when Dems brought this up before, it was our fellow GOP'ers that were against cutting earmarks because it would give the President too much power.

Jermyn Davidson 11-16-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 988474)
I often thought, "What does a politician or bureaucrat in Washington D.C. have to do with my child's education here in Ohio?" But, I wonder if we still went by "states' rights" and no federal intrusion, would we still have segregation and inferior schools for certain ethnic groups under the old "separate but equal" philosophy.

Abraham Lincoln pretty well destroyed the 10th amendment in his day and the feds have been kicking it while it is down ever since.


I think the proper balance of Federal to State government is so important.

Without "federal intrusion" change would be much, much slower.

That was proven ever so clearly during the Reconstruction Era.

The Civil Rights Act of the 1960's would never have passed or been uniformly adopted by all 50 states-- the issues and situations in each state vary a great deal too.

Digging4Truth 11-16-2010 10:28 AM

Re: Visualizing Obama's $100 Million Budget Cut
 
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Originally Posted by Sam (Post 988474)
I often thought, "What does a politician or bureaucrat in Washington D.C. have to do with my child's education here in Ohio?" But, I wonder if we still went by "states' rights" and no federal intrusion, would we still have segregation and inferior schools for certain ethnic groups under the old "separate but equal" philosophy.

Abraham Lincoln pretty well destroyed the 10th amendment in his day and the feds have been kicking it while it is down ever since.

I so completely agree with the last statement. The Civil War was about the centralization of government and we are living the consequences of that way of thinking today.

I don't believe that there would be any more chance of segregation in the US without federal intrusion than there was in any other civilized country.

The mid to latter part of the 1800's was a time of an evolution in the thinking of mankind. Every country in every corner of the world was ending slavery. There was no need for war. It was a time of changing of the human mind. A coming away from a mindset that has been with us in all parts of the world since the beginning of time.

The change was happening everywhere and it was going to finish it's course. Mankind's thinking was evolving. Any major change in man comes with upheaval and resistance but it is destined to succeed and there is no power that can stop it from finishing it's path.

Digging4Truth 11-16-2010 10:32 AM

Re: Visualizing Obama's $100 Million Budget Cut
 
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 988479)
I think the proper balance of Federal to State government is so important.

The "proper balance" is found in the constitution.

The constitution lines out very specific power for the federal government and then states that ALL powers and authorities not enumerated in that document remain with the states and the people.

This has been long since forgotten.

But... if you want the proper balance... read the constitution. It spells it out nicely.

coadie 11-16-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 988483)
The "proper balance" is found in the constitution.

The constitution lines out very specific power for the federal government and then states that ALL powers and authorities not enumerated in that document remain with the states and the people.

This has been long since forgotten.

But... if you want the proper balance... read the constitution. It spells it out nicely.

That means Jermyn's lib friends are ursurping their authority.

Digging4Truth 11-16-2010 10:40 AM

Re: Visualizing Obama's $100 Million Budget Cut
 
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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 988488)
That means Jermyn's lib friends are ursurping their authority.

Jermyn's lib friends are AMONG those usurping their authority. The con's are doing the same thing.

Have you ever heard of the Patriot Act?


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