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coadie 11-19-2010 11:00 AM
1 in 5 Americans mentally ill
 
CHICAGO - More than 45 million Americans, or 20 percent of U.S. adults, had some form of mental illness last year, and 11 million had a serious illness, U.S. government researchers reported on Thursday.

"Too many Americans are not getting the help they need and opportunities to prevent and intervene early are being missed," Pamela Hyde, SAMHSA's administrator, said in a statement.

"The consequences for individuals, families and communities can be devastating. If left untreated mental illnesses can result in disability, substance abuse, suicides, lost productivity, and family discord."

Shall we add Prozac to the drinking water?

How about the healthcare laws. I take it we want to medicate and subdue the country and get a little more compliance.

Since I am healthy, it means the odds of it being you are about 25% :bliss

http://www.cnbc.com/id/40257359


Many are the afflictions of the righteous.

notofworks 11-19-2010 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 990605)
CHICAGO - More than 45 million Americans, or 20 percent of U.S. adults, had some form of mental illness last year, and 11 million had a serious illness, U.S. government researchers reported on Thursday.

"Too many Americans are not getting the help they need and opportunities to prevent and intervene early are being missed," Pamela Hyde, SAMHSA's administrator, said in a statement.

"The consequences for individuals, families and communities can be devastating. If left untreated mental illnesses can result in disability, substance abuse, suicides, lost productivity, and family discord."

Shall we add Prozac to the drinking water?

How about the healthcare laws. I take it we want to medicate and subdue the country and get a little more compliance.

Since I am healthy, it means the odds of it being you are about 25% :bliss

http://www.cnbc.com/id/40257359


Many are the afflictions of the righteous.


Well, I know one that is, for sure!!

Sam 11-19-2010 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 990609)
Well, I know one that is, for sure!!
Well, I know I'm OK
but
I wonder about the rest of you here

houston 11-19-2010 02:07 PM
Re: 1 in 5 Americans mentally ill
 
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Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 990609)
Well, I know one that is, for sure!!
:ursofunny

ILG 11-19-2010 02:52 PM
Re: 1 in 5 Americans mentally ill
 
I've suffered from depression off and on my whole life. So, I would probably be considered "mentally ill". Oh well. Shrug.

Aquila 11-19-2010 02:59 PM
Re: 1 in 5 Americans mentally ill
 
If you look around and the four closest people to you appear to be "normal"... guess what....

LOL

Truthseeker 11-19-2010 04:10 PM
Re: 1 in 5 Americans mentally ill
 
I think it's a higher rate at our church. ;)

coadie 11-19-2010 04:15 PM
Re: 1 in 5 Americans mentally ill
 
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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 990775)
I think it's a higher rate at our church. ;)
Many are the afflictions of the righteous.


People for some reason even in churches seem to think everything should be hunkey dorry.

Digging4Truth 11-19-2010 04:18 PM
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This is because it is necessary to label every little nuanced deviation from defined normalcy because the pharm companies can't market a medication to "treat" it unless it has been labeled.

ILG... In the future if you find yourself battling depression again... look into Niacin (Vitamin B3)

Cindy 11-19-2010 04:19 PM
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I'm fine with my insanity, TYVM.

Azzan 11-19-2010 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 990782)
I'm fine with my insanity, TYVM.
:ursofunny I'm with you!

ILG 11-19-2010 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 990781)
This is because it is necessary to label every little nuanced deviation from defined normalcy because the pharm companies can't market a medication to "treat" it unless it has been labeled.

ILG... In the future if you find yourself battling depression again... look into Niacin (Vitamin B3)
I already take niacin, d4t. I'm pretty savvy with nutrition etc. If I let the drs dope me up, I would probably be a wreck! LOL!

Margies3 11-19-2010 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 990782)
I'm fine with my insanity, TYVM.
me too, Cindy. All these voices just mean that I'm always in good company. :toofunny

Cindy 11-19-2010 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Margies3 (Post 990792)
me too, Cindy. All these voices just mean that I'm always in good company. :toofunny
Yep, they can't ALL be wrong.:crazywalls

Margies3 11-19-2010 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 990794)
Yep, they can't ALL be wrong.:crazywalls
yep! and we're never lonely. :hug3

Cindy 11-19-2010 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Azzan (Post 990783)
:ursofunny I'm with you!
:thumbsup

Jermyn Davidson 11-19-2010 06:04 PM
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I know of situations where a person attributed the wooing and working of the Holy Spirit along with the affects of their sinful choices to mental illness.


Mental illness is a serious issue. It is my opinion however, that if humans would make better decisions, then sometimes that mental illness would never manifest itself.

This goes for Christians and non-Christians.



Why should a person relinquish their right to experience happiness? Why do humans do the things that humans do?

Esther 11-19-2010 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 990794)
Yep, they can't ALL be wrong.:crazywalls
:ursofunny:ursofunny

pelathais 11-19-2010 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 990605)
...
Since I am healthy, ...
:blah

:ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny :ursofunny

pelathais 11-19-2010 06:08 PM
Re: 1 in 5 Americans mentally ill
 
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 990802)
I know of situations where a person attributed the wooing and working of the Holy Spirit along with the affects of their sinful choices to mental illness.


Mental illness is a serious issue. It is my opinion however, that if humans would make better decisions, then sometimes that mental illness would never manifest itself.

This goes for Christians and non-Christians.



Why should a person relinquish their right to experience happiness? Why do humans do the things that humans do?
By definition, I guess that may be part of what makes them (us) "human."

Azzan 11-19-2010 06:18 PM
Re: 1 in 5 Americans mentally ill
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 990802)
I know of situations where a person attributed the wooing and working of the Holy Spirit along with the affects of their sinful choices to mental illness.


Mental illness is a serious issue. It is my opinion however, that if humans would make better decisions, then sometimes that mental illness would never manifest itself.

This goes for Christians and non-Christians.

Why should a person relinquish their right to experience happiness? Why do humans do the things that humans do?
That is a valid point. However, it's not always decisions that cause mental illness, life changing events can be the cause as well.

Pressing-On 11-19-2010 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 990782)
I'm fine with my insanity, TYVM.
:toofunny :toofunny :thumbsup

Jermyn Davidson 11-19-2010 06:22 PM
Re: 1 in 5 Americans mentally ill
 
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Originally Posted by Azzan (Post 990809)
That is a valid point. However, it's not always decisions that cause mental illness, life changing events can be the cause as well.
Agreed.

Most life changing events are not exactly planned for, opening the door for mental illness.


I guess I can only speak from personal experience-- from what I've witnessed in the lives of other and what I have experienced myself.

Sometimes, we just don't like the taste of the fruit we have planted and blame it on mental illness.

coadie 11-19-2010 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Azzan (Post 990809)
That is a valid point. However, it's not always decisions that cause mental illness, life changing events can be the cause as well.
Life changing events cause stress. Stress is not a mental illness.

Digging4Truth 11-19-2010 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 990785)
I already take niacin, d4t. I'm pretty savvy with nutrition etc. If I let the drs dope me up, I would probably be a wreck! LOL!
That is great to hear. Too few people are savvy with nutrition. Between you & "them" I trust you much more.

Digging4Truth 11-19-2010 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 990822)
Life changing events cause stress. Stress is not a mental illness.
But it can be a catalyst.

coadie 11-19-2010 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 990828)
But it can be a catalyst.
I'll get a little more specific. If one has an anxiety disorder, stress may trigger an unwanted reaction. People with anxiety disorders have different threshholds for coping.

pelathais 11-20-2010 03:47 AM
Re: 1 in 5 Americans mentally ill
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coadie (Post 990822)
Life changing events cause stress. Stress is not a mental illness.
For the purposes of the study you quoted even the depression that can accompany losing one's job is a "mental illness."

I suppose in some sense these researchers might consider "the sniffles" as a physical "illness," and technically it is. And so, the "stress" and its effects that hits each of us throughout our lives might be seen as a "mental illness" when we're being so generous in applying the term.

coadie 11-20-2010 07:06 AM
Re: 1 in 5 Americans mentally ill
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 990869)
For the purposes of the study you quoted even the depression that can accompany losing one's job is a "mental illness."

I suppose in some sense these researchers might consider "the sniffles" as a physical "illness," and technically it is. And so, the "stress" and its effects that hits each of us throughout our lives might be seen as a "mental illness" when we're being so generous in applying the term.
Try to follow this discussion of mandatory evals for post partum depression.

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In 2006, the Governor of New Jersey signed legislation requiring health-care professionals who provide prenatal care to educate women about postpartum depression (“PPD”) and to see that new mothers receive treatment for the disorder. Then, in a press release, it was stated that 80% of women experience some degree of depression following childbirth. And, most recently, both Illinois and Pennsylvania are also attempting to get similar legislation passed as well.

Not to be outdone, in the United States Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) has slipped a controversial bill called The Mothers Act into an omnibus package called "Advancing America's Priorities Act" (S.3297). The legislation, as first enacted in New Jersey, would require pregnant and new mothers across the U.S. to be screened and treated because they are deemed to be at risk for mental disorders. Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ) jumped on the bandwagon, proudly proclaiming that, "We must attack postpartum depression on all fronts with education, screening, support, and research so that new moms can feel supported and safe rather than scared and alone."

Fortunately, S.3297 stalled in the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pension (HELP) committee for months

Here is a person hysterically arguing for drugging up new moms with perinatal depression.
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Have these people not seen the research? Do they not know that women with untreated postpartum depression can go on to have chronic depression for the rest of their lives? Do they not know that women with untreated depression during pregnancy are twice as likely to have pre-eclampsia, twice as likely to have a C-section, twice as likely to have a preterm delivery and twice as likely to have their baby go to NICU? Do they know the odds of developmental delay for children whose mother’s illness goes on and on and on and on? Do they not know that suicide as a result of postpartum mood disorders is the leading cause of death for women postpartum in the US?
Postpartum hemorrhage (PPH), or severe bleeding after birth is treated with an injection of Pitocin. Post partum moms have a lot of chemical changes that happen rapidly.

Percocet, Morphine, Oxycodone and Hydrocodone after the c-section for pain and addiction comes next.

Progesterone and Estrogen fall by 90% to 95% in the first 48 hours after delivery so then start the Tricyclics such as brand names Elavil, Norpramin, Tofranil, Aventyl and Pamelor for "rebalancing moods"

Both the baby going on a bottle and mommy going on a bottle of enhancement products.

I am not against medication. I do not deny there are even a few cases of post partum psychosis.


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