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coadie 11-23-2010 08:05 AM

TSA spreading infectious diseases.
 
Scrubbing before surgery. If you use a hand scrub brush, you scrub for
5 minutes first time each day and 3 minutes with a brush for the next cases before donning sterile gloves. Yes the first scrub caused pain on my sun burned arms from the weekend .
The wearing of gloves does NOT eliminate the requirement to scrub. There are several good antiseptic solutions for cleaning.

Now the TSA fondlers wear gloves to protect them selves from "bugs"

They do not change gloves between groping incidents. There are cases where they push the hand under the undergarments.

We are dealing with an ignorant group of uneducated technicians.
Spreading disease is very easy.

I am not a clean freak. I have no problem working working with people that have TB and wearing suitable protection. Just remember even youngsters that take a little food handlers class to get that first fast food job have a little hygeine education and policy that far exceeds what the screeners do.

Cindy 11-23-2010 08:18 AM

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Good grief, Coadie. How do you know they don't change gloves? That is an assumption.

coadie 11-23-2010 09:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 991899)
Good grief, Coadie. How do you know they don't change gloves? That is an assumption.

They are not told to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSQTz1bccL4

The woman screener on the left wears gloves and has her hands near her armpits.
Quote:

unclean
The next passenger comes and she doesn't change them. The right hand screener leaves in the middle of the video and I see him put his removed gloves in his right pocket when he walks.

Every time you remove a latex glove it is inside out. If he puts the glove back on, the inside and outside are reversed.

Good grief Cindy. I have donned surgical gloves 10,000 times more than you have. This boarding gate has a metal detector and no x-ray machines. That means they all get contact?

:toofunny

A typical plane has 150 passengers. With 1-3 screeners, that means no less than 300 gloves during one plane being loaded.

Cindy 11-23-2010 09:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 991959)
They are not told to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSQTz1bccL4

The woman screener on the left wears gloves and has her hands near her armpits. The next passenger comes and she doesn't change them. The right hand screener leaves in the middle of the video and I see him put his removed gloves in his right pocket when he walks.

Every time you remove a latex glove it is inside out. If he puts the glove back on, the inside and outside are reversed.

Good grief Cindy. I have donned surgical gloves 10,000 times more than you have. This boarding gate has a metal detector and no x-ray machines. That means they all get contact?

:toofunny

A typical plane has 150 passengers. With 1-3 screeners, that means no less than 300 gloves during one plane being loaded.

I doubt you have, you are not the only person to work in the medical profession. I still wash my hands at home the way I was taught. But you made a blanket statement. So, you saw 2 people in a video. That doesn't mean they all don't change gloves.

coadie 11-23-2010 10:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 992002)
I doubt you have, you are not the only person to work in the medical profession. I still wash my hands at home the way I was taught. But you made a blanket statement. So, you saw 2 people in a video. That doesn't mean they all don't change gloves.

Actually I commented on 2 even tho 3 were involved with screening this boy.

Watch again. The woman at the metal detector places her gloved hands folded against her apparel. Now she should change shirts every time she does that to avoid contamination by germs.

I have flown for 40 years. I have never seen a sink for handwashing at the boarding areas.

coadie 11-24-2010 07:26 PM

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Quote:

Syphilis, lice, gonorrhea, ringworm, chlamydia, staph, strep, noro and papilloma viruses all are part of the possible fringe benefits when airline passengers next go through a full hands-on pat-down by agents of the federal government's Transportation Security Administration, according to doctors.
Flyer bonus points.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=232457

Now we have more docs speaking up.

There is no doubt that bacteria (staph, strep, v.cholerae etc) and viruses (noro, enteroviruses, herpes, hepatitis A and papilloma viruses) can be spread by contaminated vinyl or latex gloves," Dr. Thomas Warner of Wisconsin told WND in a letter to the editor.

"If a traveler has diarrhea and is soiled, as can and does happen, the causative agent can be spread by this method since bacteria and viruses in moist environments have greater viability."

canam 11-24-2010 08:04 PM

Re: TSA spreading infectious diseases.
 
Unbeleivable its time to stop this insanity,just profile ,it works.

coadie 11-24-2010 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by canam (Post 993312)
Unbeleivable its time to stop this insanity,just profile ,it works.

Can't get infections from profiling.

Cindy 11-25-2010 04:48 AM

Re: TSA spreading infectious diseases.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 992036)
Actually I commented on 2 even tho 3 were involved with screening this boy.

Watch again. The woman at the metal detector places her gloved hands folded against her apparel. Now she should change shirts every time she does that to avoid contamination by germs.

I have flown for 40 years. I have never seen a sink for handwashing at the boarding areas.

:crazywalls

Walks_in_islam 11-25-2010 07:29 AM

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<whispers> Just hit the flush handle - and then make sure you wash your hands.......

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 993369)
:crazywalls


Esther 11-25-2010 08:09 PM

Re: TSA spreading infectious diseases.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 992002)
I doubt you have, you are not the only person to work in the medical profession. I still wash my hands at home the way I was taught. But you made a blanket statement. So, you saw 2 people in a video. That doesn't mean they all don't change gloves.

Cindy you are right there is no way to "know" but I agree with Coadie, most likely they don't change. That would mean more cost.

Cindy 11-25-2010 08:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esther (Post 993587)
Cindy you are right there is no way to "know" but I agree with Coadie, most likely they don't change. That would mean more cost.

They would only change if they were coming into direct contact with someone's body fluids, IMO Although I do agree about the cost part.

coadie 11-27-2010 08:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esther (Post 993587)
Cindy you are right there is no way to "know" but I agree with Coadie, most likely they don't change. That would mean more cost.

Out of the scores of airports I have gone thru over the years, none have sinks in the areas of passenger screeing and boarding. None.

Everytime a TSA agent puts on a pair of gloves they contaminate them. The agents dirty hands contact the outside of the glove which contacts the passenger.

coadie 11-27-2010 08:58 AM

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List of STD's

STDs are divided into several groups according to their pathogenic causes:

BACTERIAL:

# Chancroid (Haemophillius ducreyi); # Chlamydia infection (Chlamydia trachomatis); # Donovanosis (Granuloma inguinale or Calymmatobacterium granulomatis); # Gonorrhea (Neisseria gonorrhoeae); # Lymphogranuloma venereum (LGV) (Clamydia trachomatis serotypes L1, L2, L3) # Non gonococcal urethritis (NGU) (Ureaplasma urealyticum or Mycoplasma hominis); # Syphilis (Treponema pallidum); etc.

VIRAL:

# Cytomegalovirus; # Hepatitis B; # Herpes /HSV (Herpes simplex virus); # Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV/AIDS); # Human Papilloma Virus (HPV); # Molluscum (MC); # Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS); etc.


PARASITES:

# Pubic Lice or, more popular, "crabs" (Phthirius pubis); # Scabies (Sarcoptes scabiei); etc. FUNGAL: # Candidiasis (thrush) (Candida albicans) can be sexually transmitted but not strictly an STD;

PROTOZOAL:

# Trichomoniasis (Trichomonas vaginalis)

Cindy which of these are passed on by body fluids?
Which are anearobic?
Which can be found in living form on a latex glove after contact?


http://www.cdc.gov/std/

Cindy 11-27-2010 09:02 AM

Re: TSA spreading infectious diseases.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 993985)
List of STD's

STDs are divided into several groups according to their pathogenic causes:

BACTERIAL:

# Chancroid (Haemophillius ducreyi); # Chlamydia infection (Chlamydia trachomatis); # Donovanosis (Granuloma inguinale or Calymmatobacterium granulomatis); # Gonorrhea (Neisseria gonorrhoeae); # Lymphogranuloma venereum (LGV) (Clamydia trachomatis serotypes L1, L2, L3) # Non gonococcal urethritis (NGU) (Ureaplasma urealyticum or Mycoplasma hominis); # Syphilis (Treponema pallidum); etc.

VIRAL:

# Cytomegalovirus; # Hepatitis B; # Herpes /HSV (Herpes simplex virus); # Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV/AIDS); # Human Papilloma Virus (HPV); # Molluscum (MC); # Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS); etc.


PARASITES:

# Pubic Lice or, more popular, "crabs" (Phthirius pubis); # Scabies (Sarcoptes scabiei); etc. FUNGAL: # Candidiasis (thrush) (Candida albicans) can be sexually transmitted but not strictly an STD;

PROTOZOAL:

# Trichomoniasis (Trichomonas vaginalis)

Cindy which of these are passed on by body fluids?
Which are anearobic?
Which can be found in living form on a latex glove after contact?


http://www.cdc.gov/std/

Yuck, I don't know Coadie. Are there a lot of people walking around with these things on the outside of their clothing? I know head lice might be spread that way, if they check your hair.

coadie 11-27-2010 09:59 AM

Re: TSA spreading infectious diseases.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 993987)
Yuck, I don't know Coadie. Are there a lot of people walking around with these things on the outside of their clothing? I know head lice might be spread that way, if they check your hair.

Everything is infected. AIDS/herpes is not passed easily at all without being carried by something moist. Airplane seats are disinfected using stuff similar to lysol.

http://www.hospitalmanagement.net/co...aning/hygiena/

There is an idustry that tests for clean even in hospitals. Hospitals today fight transmission of Staph

After glancing at the screeners when I fly

They would be perfect for:

Quote:

Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) is a bacterium responsible for several difficult-to-treat infections in humans.
Helping people share disease.

Cindy 11-27-2010 10:02 AM

Re: TSA spreading infectious diseases.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 994022)
Everything is infected. AIDS/herpes is not passed easily at all without being carried by something moist. Airplane seats are disinfected using stuff similar to lysol.

http://www.hospitalmanagement.net/co...aning/hygiena/

There is an idustry that tests for clean even in hospitals. Hospitals today fight transmission of Staph

After glancing at the screeners when I fly

They would be perfect for:



Helping people share disease.

Yeah, and you're all closed up in an airplane together. YUCK, I'm surprised a lot of diseases don't get spread there. I guess most of us never think about that possibility. Maybe someone could suggest to the TSA about doing a better job at protecting people.


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