Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 993945)

The British born Apostolic historian Kulwant Singh Boora...

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 993970)

sure would like to met him...maybe it can be traced let´s wait and see...I read the article.

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 983935)

I've read Boora's books and his "research" is a laugh. He even utilizes the old canard about the settler's on Billy's Island in the Okefenokee Swamp being "persecuted Oneness Apostolics."

They were not "persecuted" in any way. They just liked to live in out and away from a lot of people and development. Also, they would be more accurately compared to "Baptist" in their beliefs and practice.

Quote:
"The church at Fort Mudge is called the "Pilgrim's Hope," possibly because the pilgrims who worship at this shrine are always hoping for many things which they never get. As a specimen of modern architecture it can scarcely be called imposing. Its ventilation is perfect, and is attained by the means of large cracks through the log walls. Indeed, the entire house is constructed of logs, with abundance of space between them for fresh air and for viewing the surrounding country. We found some fifty or more pilgrims assembled, and two preachers favored us with discourses - the Rev. Richard Lee and Rev. Moses Thrift. If the faith of these pilgrims be measured by the time they spend at their devotions, they all deserve a high place, for services commenced at a little before twelve and wound up a little after four. Each of the ministers opened by saying he had preached out and had nothing to say; yet each occupied about two hours to get rid of that nothing.

The Rev. Moses Thrift devoted a considerable portion of his time to the matters of "Infant Baptism" and "Sunday schools." These he denounced vigorously and warmly. He had the orthodox Baptist drawl at the end of every two or three words, which was doubtless very pleasant to the brethren, but which made his utterances so indistinct that I could understand but a very small part of what he said.

The men and women were separated during the services, and everything was conducted in a very democratic way. Men, women and children would go out and return as often as they desired, the sleepy slept, and the thirsty made repeated trips to the water bucket. Generally, however, the behavior of the congregation was devout, and there were beyond doubt many good people present. [But] the exercises were entirely too long and wearied out everybody."

Howell Cobb Jackson, Atlanta Journal, 1890

Fort Mudge, Georgia is on the northern shore of the Okefenokee Swamp and Rev. Richard Lee was a relation to Daniel Lee, the noted "squatter" on Billy's Island in the swamp.

You won't find the word's "Jesus name baptism" or "received the Holy Ghost as evidenced by speaking in other tongues" or the term "Oneness" associated with any one in this region except in the writings of Oneness Apostolics. It is a plain invention.

Boora simply parrots this error. The doctoral level training he boasts of appears to have left him unable to perform any original research.

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 993966)

:ursofunny

As credible as his diploma mill degrees and doctorate.

Or the one's he helped secure for Art Wilson and Lee Stoneking.

The word FRAUD comes to mind.

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 993973)

doctoral impostor ....? is he not a doctor?

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 993979)

DA- you and I may have our differences on some things, but you do a great job on shining the light on these issues!
Thanks!

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 993977)

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 993973)

doctoral impostor ....? is he not a doctor?

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 994001)

. I say Baron should post the recording that Kalwunt Boora left on his phone.

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 994006)

I think he must .... we've spoke about this very matter.

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 993977)

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 993973)

doctoral impostor ....? is he not a doctor?

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 994011)

I deleted the post I had just rattled off when I saw that you had quoted an earlier one of mine covering the same material.

Just why does the "Oneness Apostolic" movement find itself constantly plagued by frauds like Kalwant Boora?

You are correct to ask why people like Bro. Ensey will rely on so many inaccuracies and outright fabrications to ostensibly promote "the Truth."

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 994050)

Well, I have a framed diploma hanging on the wall in my office. It says that I have a Th.D. degree and it is issued by AFF Virtual Seminary. So, I can call my self Doctor James Ellis and I can designate myself as James Ellis Th.D. if I want. Now some would say it is not a "real" degree but I have a piece of paper that looks official and it says I have a doctorate in theology.

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 994055)

Plus I made it for you.

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 994056)

yeppers, although your name does not appear among the 5 signatures on it.

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 994058)

Further proof of my humility.

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 994054)

Well, OP's have to use something to justify their unique doctrine of "the plan of salvation" and "the godhead" so they grab at stuff like this. They then pass this off to the average church member or preacher who will not investigate and we are told that there is an "unbroken line of One God Acts 2:38 people and practice from the first century until now."

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 994060)

You studied service and integrity under the CarMax scholars. You can proudly claim you are the most humble person on this board.

Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 994073)

Anyone know how to convert a .band file to a format that will play on this forum? If so I can post the voicemail that was left from Boora claiming to be an attorney calling from Britain.

Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 994073)

Anyone know how to convert a .band file to a format that will play on this forum? If so I can post the voicemail that was left from Boora claiming to be an attorney calling from Britain.

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 994062)

This is like the third PUFF PIECE BY PAUL BAUMEISTER ... that the folks at Apostolic News have done on Kal ... hmmmm....

http://www.apostolicnews.org/2010/08...rical-support/

http://www.apostolicnews.org/2009/12...ble-testimony/

http://www.apostolicnews.org/2010/11...e-2nd-century/

Another mention here:
http://www.apostolicnews.org/2010/03...ts-conference/

Looks like he's a darling of of Wilson, Miles and the WPF too.

Good thing the WPF is still standing for TRUTH.

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 994074)

ooh .... Pick me ... Pick me.

Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 994078)

It is giving me fits trying to convert it in itunes.

I can email it to you if you want to play with it.

Yes same voice that claimed to be from the Bar.