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Praxeas 11-27-2010 03:18 PM

Stuxnet
 
Has any of you been reading about this virus/worm? Im blown away by how sophisticated it is. Very intelligent programing. Kinda scary that someone or group could make something that intelligent

Digging4Truth 11-27-2010 03:24 PM

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And the inevitable follows...

Cyber Security Act...

There will be an immediate and undeniable need to take over the internet.

All major disasters equal losses of liberty.

hawks-cry 11-27-2010 03:49 PM

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I use Linux,...so I don't have to worry so much about virus attacks (and other such). Unfortunately,...my grown daughter insists on just using windows. I have to go in to her computer and run all kinds of programs to clean out the malware, trojans, viruses, etc. etc. every other day it seems. If Linux ever starts to be a target of virus attacks,....I'll probably move on to one of the BSDs.

jfrog 11-27-2010 03:54 PM

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Interesting.

Praxeas 11-27-2010 04:04 PM

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This worm infected Iran's Nuke facilities which are NOT connected to the internet. Presumably the infection copied itself onto thumb drives or laptops outside and went undetected. That is the genius. The worms intent was NOT to harm everyone's PC or make it a zombie for a DOS attack.

Instead its sole intent was to eventually make its way onto Iran's nuke computers and then cause their centrifuges to spin faster than intended and slow down, all without detection. The result was not destroyed centrifuges but centrifuges that just didn't work right. This went on for a year without detection. Absolutely amazing how it worked to copy itself to their computers and then sabotage for a year undetected

DAII 11-27-2010 04:05 PM

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The worm's probable target has been said to have been high value infrastructures in Iran using Siemens control systems.[6][7] According to news reports the infestation by this worm might have damaged Iran's nuclear facilities in Natanz[8][9] and eventually delayed the start up of Iran's Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant.[10] Siemens has stated, however, that the worm has not in fact caused any damage.[11]
Wonder if there is any speculation that Israel is behind it?

Praxeas 11-27-2010 04:05 PM

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http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...est=latestnews

RandyWayne 11-27-2010 05:12 PM

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This worm was NOT done by any group of hackers, rather is was nation sponsored and quite ingenious.

coadie 11-27-2010 05:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 994236)
Wonder if there is any speculation that Israel is behind it?

I read that there is speculation in your question.

DAII 11-27-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 994265)
I read that there is speculation in your question.

I mean, the Obama administration can't be behind this ... could it?

Baron1710 11-27-2010 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DAII (Post 994267)
I mean, the Obama administration can't be behind this ... could it?

If they are they should use that in their 2012 campaign.

coadie 11-27-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DAII (Post 994267)
I mean, the Obama administration can't be behind this ... could it?

I could see his administration behind the really big stuff. Hacking Siemens machine language protocols is much smaller than hacking Gov Palins e-mail.

A friend of mine sold computer operated systems to run nuclear plants for years. Things became slow for 2 decades even tho Westinghouse has half the reactors in the world and many others copied some part of their work.

Westinghouse sold to Siemens around 10 years ago. I work with Siemens Rail as a client and not other divisions. I remember Intergraph does construction modeling software and Burns MdDonald does Operating design. I suspect Intergraph also has enterprise operating software. They are a popular provider of software solutions to many refinerios.

Want me to call some contacts on Monday?

canam 11-27-2010 07:12 PM

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READ THE ARTICLE ON FOX, GENIUS, they suspect the US and Russia not israel,no hackers could do this, had to be more than one nation and someone that had intimate knowledge of siemans company.Amazing !

coadie 11-27-2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by canam (Post 994294)
READ THE ARTICLE ON FOX, GENIUS, they suspect the US and Russia not israel,no hackers could do this, had to be more than one nation and someone that had intimate knowledge of siemans company.Amazing !

Intergraph and Westinghouse are into most nuclear operations. Westinghouse was purchased by Siemens. PLC programming is old stuff for the industrial electrical industry. The only thing fancy about this was the detail under which they kept this from being detected.

notofworks 11-27-2010 08:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 994217)
Has any of you been reading about this virus/worm? Im blown away by how sophisticated it is. Very intelligent programing. Kinda scary that someone or group could make something that intelligent



The Mac user's reaction to virus talk:

Yaaaaaawwwwnnnnnn

MrMasterMind 11-27-2010 08:56 PM

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Don't tell anyone. But have it on good authority Skynet is behind it.

jfrog 11-27-2010 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 994306)
The Mac user's reaction to virus talk:

Yaaaaaawwwwnnnnnn

Mac has more holes than windows ever thought about.

Praxeas 11-27-2010 11:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 994236)
Wonder if there is any speculation that Israel is behind it?

yes, but some were saying it might be a multinational endeaver

Praxeas 11-27-2010 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 994323)
Mac has more holes than windows ever thought about.

And it's really irrelevant. MACS are insignificant. Had Iran been using MACS this would have been a MAC virus/worm

canam 11-28-2010 06:24 AM

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The only reason macs dont get virus's is, there aint enough of them for the virus writers to care about, so they ignore them.

canam 11-28-2010 06:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by coadie (Post 994303)
Intergraph and Westinghouse are into most nuclear operations. Westinghouse was purchased by Siemens. PLC programming is old stuff for the industrial electrical industry. The only thing fancy about this was the detail under which they kept this from being detected.

That, plus the fact that they thought they were impentrable because they werent connected to the web . And that it wasnt told to destroy anything, just mess with it ,by changing speeds,which i suppose kept it from being detected.

notofworks 11-28-2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by canam (Post 994347)
The only reason macs dont get virus's is, there aint enough of them for the virus writers to care about, so they ignore them.


Fine with me. We're a privileged few! :razz

Yaaaaawwwwnnnnnn.

houston 11-28-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MrMasterMind (Post 994307)
Don't tell anyone. But have it on good authority Skynet is behind it.

Skynet has Kyle Reese.

canam 11-28-2010 06:34 PM

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Been wondering for sometime why the Israelis hadnt bombed them like before .Obviously they had knowledge of what was happening, so instead they were technologically bombed, less mess, money and fuss.its a beautiful thing technology.

Praxeas 11-29-2010 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by canam (Post 994474)
Been wondering for sometime why the Israelis hadnt bombed them like before .Obviously they had knowledge of what was happening, so instead they were technologically bombed, less mess, money and fuss.its a beautiful thing technology.

They didn't bomb Iran, they bombed Iraq.

canam 11-29-2010 07:52 PM

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like before dude ?:)


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