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brianmidwest 12-13-2010 08:42 PM

What's the "Favor" Deal?
 
Recently, I have been hearing a lot of talk about "God's Favor". Is this an outgrowth of prosperity doctrine? :chat

Hoovie 12-13-2010 08:50 PM

Re: What's the "Favor" Deal?
 
It does seem like the new buzzword doesn't it!

I certainly don't want anything other than God's favor in my life... I just pray that I have knowledge to identify and humility to accept his will and favor in all things.

Encryptus 12-13-2010 08:57 PM

Re: What's the "Favor" Deal?
 
Luke 1:28

And the angel came in to her, and said, Hail, you that are highly favored, the Lord is with you: blessed are you among women.

Hoovie 12-13-2010 09:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Encryptus (Post 1000330)
Luke 1:28

And the angel came in to her, and said, Hail, you that are highly favored, the Lord is with you: blessed are you among women.

Her favor with God got her pregnant at 13... I am sure that was not exactly easy to deal with.

freeatlast 12-13-2010 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 1000350)
Her favor with God got her pregnant at 13... I am sure that was not exactly easy to deal with.

You crack me up Hoovie !!

Hoovie 12-13-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by freeatlast (Post 1000361)
You crack me up Hoovie !!

LOL! Well? It's true isn't it?

ThePastorsCoach 12-13-2010 09:27 PM

Re: What's the "Favor" Deal?
 
Lord have mercy! You guys are a day late and a dollar short! I have been preaching the FAVOR OF GOD for well over 10 years. Grace is the unmerited, unearned and unrepayable FAVOR of Almighty God!
I pray for a crown of FAVOR on my head and those that hear me daily!
You know guys - if you keep preaching what you have always preached - you keep getting what you always got!
Favor is not NEW!
One day of Favor, is worth a thousand years of Labor!

Neck 12-13-2010 10:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brianmidwest (Post 1000321)
Recently, I have been hearing a lot of talk about "God's Favor". Is this an outgrowth of prosperity doctrine? :chat

Favor to these folks is only granted by "Giving". it amazing how they preach Grace without works, but yet you have to give to gain prosperity. Whatever works in their 'Favor' becomes God's favor!

ThePastorsCoach 12-14-2010 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Neck (Post 1000420)
Favor to these folks is only granted by "Giving". it amazing how they preach Grace without works, but yet you have to give to gain prosperity. Whatever works in their 'Favor' becomes God's favor!

Excuse me but what have you been drinking?

brianmidwest 12-14-2010 09:08 AM

Re: What's the "Favor" Deal?
 
I agree that Grace is God's favor to us. But the gist of what I was being told was that if you give into "the work of the Lord", that then God's favor rests upon you. I wouldn't have been surprised to hear this in some quarters, but these were good apostolic folks. There's even a conference coming up on it

Michael The Disciple 12-14-2010 09:27 AM

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Amen its simple. The Greek word for Grace "charis" just means favor. If we are in Gods grace we are in his favor.

BTW it is merely a theological interpretation that grace means "unmerited" favor.

ThePastorsCoach 12-14-2010 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by brianmidwest (Post 1000558)
I agree that Grace is God's favor to us. But the gist of what I was being told was that if you give into "the work of the Lord", that then God's favor rests upon you. I wouldn't have been surprised to hear this in some quarters, but these were good apostolic folks. There's even a conference coming up on it

Well...Really it is only is you give into MY ministry! PM me for personal Ministry address and we accept all credit and debit cards, cash and good checks.

ThePastorsCoach 12-14-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1000569)
Amen its simple. The Greek word for Grace "charis" just means favor. If we are in Gods grace we are in his favor.

BTW it is merely a theological interpretation that grace means "unmerited" favor.

Well...we are mere human beings that have a tendency to interpret words like grace don't we?

warrior 12-14-2010 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop (Post 1000370)
Lord have mercy! You guys are a day late and a dollar short! I have been preaching the FAVOR OF GOD for well over 10 years. Grace is the unmerited, unearned and unrepayable FAVOR of Almighty God!
I pray for a crown of FAVOR on my head and those that hear me daily!
You know guys - if you keep preaching what you have always preached - you keep getting what you always got!
Favor is not NEW!
One day of Favor, is worth a thousand years of Labor!

Atlanta Bishop, you make me sick! I wanted to be the one to say it. Favor isn't a new concept at all. Unfortunately, most apostolics are obsessed with preaching/hearing the same things (ACTS 2:30, dress code, tongues,etc.) until there is so much that hasn't been embraced. Therefore, they are left out in the cold because they can't move forward.

ThePastorsCoach 12-14-2010 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by warrior (Post 1000576)
Atlanta Bishop, you make me sick! I wanted to be the one to say it. Favor isn't a new concept at all. Unfortunately, most apostolics are obsessed with preaching/hearing the same things (ACTS 2:30, dress code, tongues,etc.) until there is so much that hasn't been embraced. Therefore, they are left out in the cold because they can't move forward.

And what exactly is YOUR problem?
1. Why do I make you sick?
2. I never said Favor was a new concept - I said exactly opposite!
3. You obviously have no clue what you are talking about!

warrior 12-14-2010 09:40 AM

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Atlanta Bishop, You make me sick because I wanted to be the first one to say what you said. I agreed with you.

You love my approach!

ThePastorsCoach 12-14-2010 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by warrior (Post 1000585)
Atlanta Bishop, You make me sick because I wanted to be the first one to say what you said. I agreed with you.

You love my approach!

I am so totally confused - but of course - I was in the UPC for many years and it goes with the territory! LOL

brianmidwest 12-14-2010 09:45 AM

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But if I make a contribution do I get a prayer cloth, or shofar, or at least a cd?

ThePastorsCoach 12-14-2010 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by brianmidwest (Post 1000589)
But if I make a contribution do I get a prayer cloth, or shofar, or at least a cd?

You get MY prayer of faith and that is it! Do you expect me to store all that stuff up then spend God's Money to mail it out - just to make you feel good and think you have access to God through all those THINGS?
The access is YOU giving to ME and ME telling God about it! It is VERY SIMPLE! ;-)

Sam 12-14-2010 10:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop (Post 1000370)
Lord have mercy! You guys are a day late and a dollar short! I have been preaching the FAVOR OF GOD for well over 10 years. Grace is the unmerited, unearned and unrepayable FAVOR of Almighty God!
I pray for a crown of FAVOR on my head and those that hear me daily!
You know guys - if you keep preaching what you have always preached - you keep getting what you always got!
Favor is not NEW!
One day of Favor, is worth a thousand years of Labor!

Amen, Bishop

:penguin

ThePastorsCoach 12-14-2010 10:28 AM

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Thanks Sam - We agree!

warrior 12-14-2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop (Post 1000607)
You get MY prayer of faith and that is it! Do you expect me to store all that stuff up then spend God's Money to mail it out - just to make you feel good and think you have access to God through all those THINGS?
The access is YOU giving to ME and ME telling God about it! It is VERY SIMPLE! ;-)

Sounds like you belong to TBN!

warrior 12-14-2010 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop (Post 1000587)
I am so totally confused - but of course - I was in the UPC for many years and it goes with the territory! LOL

Atlanta Bishop, Obviouslly that beard is imparing your thinking. I agree with your stance on favor. I just wanted to say it before you did. BTW, go take a shave. That is very unapostolic of you.

Sam 12-14-2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by warrior (Post 1000678)
...BTW, go take a shave. That is very unapostolic of you.

why do you think that the apostles (at least the men apostles) of the first century apostolic church were beardless?

Jermyn Davidson 12-14-2010 04:26 PM

Re: What's the "Favor" Deal?
 
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Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 1000350)
Her favor with God got her pregnant at 13... I am sure that was not exactly easy to deal with.

There's a good sermon somewhere in Hoovie's quote.


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