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I sure have changed my opinion on Billy Graham over the years.
Many years ago when I was teaching a class of teenagers in an Apostolic Church I jumped all over one young man for watching Billy Graham. I called Billy Graham a "false prophet" based on Deuteronomy 13:1-5. I told the class that Billy Graham was trying to get people to believe in and serve false gods --the trinity-- instead of Jesus Christ the true God. I also used the "inoculation" example saying that people go to a Billy Graham crusade, go to the front and receive an inoculation which keeps them from getting Biblical salvation. The thought being that an inoculation introduces a small dose of something into the system to build up an immunity to keep from getting the real thing. I no longer believe that way. Because of my belief in justification by faith, I consider Billy Graham to be justified/saved/born again. |
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go to youtube and find the convo between schuller and bg, where they proclaim that there is salvation outside of Jesus
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Yes, Graham did say he believed people could be saved apart from Jesus and Schuller was pleasantly surprised.
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John Hagee believes that also? ...he and some apo's.
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No, Mike. Preterism is heresy. Post trib borders on heresy. Cut hair, makeup, and pants on women is the mark of the beast. Jews don't need Jesus, that's sound doctrine...THEY are God's CHOSEN people... us, we're red headed step children.
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Was some good stuff. I shoulda took an offering.
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I believe Billy's statements are being taken out of context ,in this thread, he doesn't believe that there is salvation in any other name. Just that some may have believed in the true God and followed to the best of their understanding, simply that they didn't know His name.
I believe he believes as I believe, the folks will be saved after death, "because of what Jesus has done", so the fact is no one will be saved without Jesus. |
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When he was younger......no he obviously wasn't a UR advocate. As the the years go by, seems he has changed his stance a bit. There are many Christian universalists scattered in denominations all through christianity. And people that hope. But still Christian Universallists believe it's only posible through Christ. in all due time.
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I'm not assuming BG is a universalist. Just that his stance/message has changed over the years. Anyone who watched the video could see that. I'm neither 'reaching' or 'attempting'. |
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if you compare what he said in the video in this thread and compared it to his message at his crusades through his career we'd have to agree he 'has changes his stance'. I didn't say BG was a universalist.
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I ask this because if so, Graham's postion isn't that people can be saved apart from Jesus. Graham's belief would be more akin to Christian Universalism, a belief which extends Christ's saving power beyond the grave. |
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I've seen several very strict elders of the Christian faith who used to preach Acts 2:38 or burn soften in their old age to allow for UR's possibility.
Many near death experiences also present such possibility. I wonder what's going on in Graham's head? He might be softening to some concepts in his old age. |
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Many come to the maturity that God simply will accomplish why He created a world of humans in His likeness. Billy Graham seems to have moved closer to that understanding. God is the savior of the whole world and the whole creation will be redeemed.
God is the refining fire that will remove all dross from His creation, He is a God that is successful in all that He has said He would do. No freewill of man, nor the evil work of satan will thwart His purpose. He will remove ALL the dross from each of us NOW if we will daily keep our hearts turned to HIM, He hears every prayer, even the soft spoken ones, but his purpose is that the circumstances of life are a battering ram to pound us into the shape of HIS likeness. That we hear HIS voice to know where HE is working around us, so that we may join HIM in what HE is doing. |
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Billy Graha, is, first and formost a minister. He is, in fact a minister of the Baptist faith. In addition to that, Mr. Graham is, or maybe I should say, has been, a world religious leader. As such, he is diplomatic when it comes to sharing his faith with people of other faiths, whether they are Pentecostal, Catholic or Jewish. I don't think he believes there is salvation outside of Jesus nor do I think he believes in UR. I think he uses tact and diplomacy in dealing with people, which makes it seem necessary for him to "soften" his message somewhat. He was called a compromiser and a communist sympathizer when he returned from preaching in the USSR in the 70s because he didn't speak more harshly against USSR policies. His tact and diplomacy seems to have opened the door for people in Russia to have greater religious freedoms.
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