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ILG 12-27-2010 09:13 AM

Can Your Life Be Richer Without TV?
 
Forget that old hellfire and brimstone preaching about the one eyed devil and read this article. Now, I have to take offense about what she said about not going to the library (since I work in one), but she makes some good points. ;)


http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...ithout-tv.aspx

missourimary 12-27-2010 09:31 AM

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I haven't ever owned a TV. I don't think it's evil... I think it's boring. When I moved to college, I couldn't have TV in our older dorms. The electrical system wasn't set up to handle computers, microwaves, TVs, or dorm sized fridges. When I graduated, cable was outrageous, I was broke, and no one in town got reception without cable or a monstrous tower of tinfoil and wire extending from their antenna. When I moved to an area where I could have gotten reception, TV just didn't make much sense anymore. My dad talks about TV constantly, and sleeps with his remote. I didn't want my life to revolve around a box the way it did in my teens--I enjoyed the freedom from the TV Guide.

I checked into getting a TV recently. I can only get three stations here without cable. TBN and CBS don't impress me enough to make buying and finding space for a $200+ piece of equipment worthwhile. I did order a month of Netflix for the holidays so I could watch some Christmas movies I haven't seen in 19 years, but will cancel my subscription in January. The local library has DVDs for checkout, and I might check something from Blockbuster or Redbox once in awhile to watch on my computer.

seguidordejesus 12-27-2010 09:34 AM

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I recently started viewing some shows that I enjoy online, and realized quickly what a time waster it is, so no more....

ILG 12-27-2010 09:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 1004729)
I haven't ever owned a TV. I don't think it's evil... I think it's boring. When I moved to college, I couldn't have TV in our older dorms. The electrical system wasn't set up to handle computers, microwaves, TVs, or dorm sized fridges. When I graduated, cable was outrageous, I was broke, and no one in town got reception without cable or a monstrous tower of tinfoil and wire extending from their antenna. When I moved to an area where I could have gotten reception, TV just didn't make much sense anymore. My dad talks about TV constantly, and sleeps with his remote. I didn't want my life to revolve around a box the way it did in my teens--I enjoyed the freedom from the TV Guide.

I checked into getting a TV recently. I can only get three stations here without cable. TBN and CBS don't impress me enough to make buying and finding space for a $200+ piece of equipment worthwhile. I did order a month of Netflix for the holidays so I could watch some Christmas movies I haven't seen in 19 years, but will cancel my subscription in January. The local library has DVDs for checkout, and I might check something from Blockbuster or Redbox once in awhile to watch on my computer.

We've never gotten a TV since we've been married (24 years ago). When we left the UPC, we never really thought about getting one. Well....we have a TV per se.....we just don't use it for anything except videos. No commercials which is great. Also, internet has everything nowadays you could want. I will never say we will NEVER get a TV, but I don't see getting one anyway.

ILG 12-27-2010 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by seguidordejesus (Post 1004734)
I recently started viewing some shows that I enjoy online, and realized quickly what a time waster it is, so no more....

I like to watch videos to relax, so I don't consider relaxing a waste of time, I guess. ;) But I would feel aggravated if I had to sit through commercials I didn't want to see.

sandie 12-27-2010 10:28 AM

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Wow, I really admire all of you who don't have TVs.

I never turn the thing on in the day...unless there's something newsworthy happening and I feel a need to stay informed. However, at night....it's my pacifier, I need help and prayer!

When our power went out recently and my husband hooked up the generator I said the first thing is, hook up the TV (dummy me forgot the cable would be out too), see how much help I need!

seguidordejesus 12-27-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1004748)
I like to watch videos to relax, so I don't consider relaxing a waste of time, I guess. ;) But I would feel aggravated if I had to sit through commercials I didn't want to see.

No doubt it's my tendency to want to stay there for any extended period of time, and also, I get a great idea about something I need to do halfway through a program so either leave off watching or forget what I was going to do lol

NotforSale 12-27-2010 11:17 AM

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Haven't had a TV for over 30 years, and don't plan to get one. I do watch video, which is great because I can pick and choose what to watch at the time I want to watch a particular movie or documentary. Also, no commercials which is another time waster.

The big one is "When", for me. A TV requires a person to be bound by their time. Many times my wife and I will turn off a movie half way through the program and watch the rest later.

Another thing I notice about TV is when I visit my parents I see how the News affects their life. My dad seems to be hooked on the repetitious forum of the News, and when we talk politics, religion, or other current events I can tell he is totally using the News as his learning tool. Even my mother notices this, and she tells me that the News will repeat the same story, over and over with an extremely bias opinion.

The only thing I wish I could watch from time to time is a sports game. I do love baseball and basketball, and seeing these games might be fun to watch.

Dedicated Mind 12-27-2010 11:20 AM

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I went without tv for a few years when I was in the upc, but I have one now. I don't watch during the day, but I watch in the evening. I don't like comercials so I usually watch movies, basketball games or news. I am very selective on what I watch, so I don't consider it a waste of time.

RandyWayne 12-27-2010 11:44 AM

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We have a pretty nice setup with our DirecTV whole house system, where the two DVR's are networked together and can share content. On top of that we can watch Netflix on any of our sets along with whatever DVD's we happen to have.

But...... the thing is barely on. We record what we want to watch and of course the Netflix is on demand. About the only thing we will watch live is football but even then we like to let it record for 45 minutes to an hour before starting so we can fast forward through as many commercial breaks as possible.

I spend FAR more time at my computer then at the TV (is "TV" even a legitimate word anymore? Sort of like saying "I listen to tapes".)

houston 12-27-2010 12:00 PM

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I have too much A.D.D. to watch tv. There's a few things that I like to watch, but I am constantly rewinding and replaying. Praise the Lord for dvr.

MissBrattified 12-27-2010 12:12 PM

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I have a really hard time sitting down and *just* watching TV. If I have to, I'm usually multi-tasking. Maybe I'm ADD too...I don't know. I do like the background noise, and I often leave it on when I'm cooking or cleaning. I did the same thing with the radio before we had TV.

However.

I DO think it's a time waster for many people.
I DO think its absence is best for children, although not in the sense that it's a *sin* or forbidden fruit, but rather in the sense that there are so many better things to do.

I'm reading a book right now called "Simplicity Parenting", which I love. Based on some of the research and perspectives in the book, I would say that television can not only be a hindrance to a child's proper growth and development, but can actually be damaging to younger children. (Especially over-exposure.)

Here's my test for myself: If I ever feel tempted to brush off a real person in my home in favor of a tv show, then I know *it* has become too important to me. Real life relationships are much more important than anything we watch on tv, and tv should never take priority over those relationships or the needs of those people.

Praxeas 12-27-2010 12:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 1004729)
I haven't ever owned a TV. I don't think it's evil... I think it's boring. When I moved to college, I couldn't have TV in our older dorms. The electrical system wasn't set up to handle computers, microwaves, TVs, or dorm sized fridges. When I graduated, cable was outrageous, I was broke, and no one in town got reception without cable or a monstrous tower of tinfoil and wire extending from their antenna. When I moved to an area where I could have gotten reception, TV just didn't make much sense anymore. My dad talks about TV constantly, and sleeps with his remote. I didn't want my life to revolve around a box the way it did in my teens--I enjoyed the freedom from the TV Guide.

I checked into getting a TV recently. I can only get three stations here without cable. TBN and CBS don't impress me enough to make buying and finding space for a $200+ piece of equipment worthwhile. I did order a month of Netflix for the holidays so I could watch some Christmas movies I haven't seen in 19 years, but will cancel my subscription in January. The local library has DVDs for checkout, and I might check something from Blockbuster or Redbox once in awhile to watch on my computer.

Netflix looks like a good deal at 8$ a month

ILG 12-27-2010 01:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NotforSale (Post 1004794)
Haven't had a TV for over 30 years, and don't plan to get one. I do watch video, which is great because I can pick and choose what to watch at the time I want to watch a particular movie or documentary. Also, no commercials which is another time waster.

The big one is "When", for me. A TV requires a person to be bound by their time. Many times my wife and I will turn off a movie half way through the program and watch the rest later.

Another thing I notice about TV is when I visit my parents I see how the News affects their life. My dad seems to be hooked on the repetitious forum of the News, and when we talk politics, religion, or other current events I can tell he is totally using the News as his learning tool. Even my mother notices this, and she tells me that the News will repeat the same story, over and over with an extremely bias opinion.

The only thing I wish I could watch from time to time is a sports game. I do love baseball and basketball, and seeing these games might be fun to watch.

Can you watch those online?

ILG 12-27-2010 01:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1004802)
We have a pretty nice setup with our DirecTV whole house system, where the two DVR's are networked together and can share content. On top of that we can watch Netflix on any of our sets along with whatever DVD's we happen to have.

But...... the thing is barely on. We record what we want to watch and of course the Netflix is on demand. About the only thing we will watch live is football but even then we like to let it record for 45 minutes to an hour before starting so we can fast forward through as many commercial breaks as possible.

I spend FAR more time at my computer then at the TV (is "TV" even a legitimate word anymore? Sort of like saying "I listen to tapes".)

What's wrong with saying "I listen to tapes"?:gotcha

ILG 12-27-2010 01:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1004806)
I have too much A.D.D. to watch tv. There's a few things that I like to watch, but I am constantly rewinding and replaying. Praise the Lord for dvr.

I had to look up DVR, didn't know what it was.:christmoose

ILG 12-27-2010 01:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MissBrattified (Post 1004808)
I have a really hard time sitting down and *just* watching TV. If I have to, I'm usually multi-tasking. Maybe I'm ADD too...I don't know. I do like the background noise, and I often leave it on when I'm cooking or cleaning. I did the same thing with the radio before we had TV.

However.

I DO think it's a time waster for many people.
I DO think it's absence is best for children, although not in the sense that it's a *sin* or forbidden fruit, but rather in the sense that there are so many better things to do.

I'm reading a book right now called "Simplicity Parenting", which I love. Based on some of the research and perspectives in the book, I would say that television can not only be a hindrance to a child's proper growth and development, but can actually be damaging to younger children. (Especially over-exposure.)

Here's my test for myself: If I ever feel tempted to brush off a real person in my home in favor of a tv show, then I know *it* has become too important to me. Real life relationships are much more important than anything we watch on tv, and tv should never take priority over those relationships or the needs of those people.

Yeah, that can go for internet too. But, we all sit in front of our computers so nobody cares that we aren't talking to **each other**. LOL!! It's kind of pathetic, but we all like it!! However, we eat meals together and go places together.

BTW, you are a very cool parent.

Sister Alvear 12-27-2010 01:09 PM

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I watch TV 24 hours a day...ha.....

houston 12-27-2010 01:09 PM

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My friend and his mother would do most of their conversations through IM... and they were in the same house.

ILG 12-27-2010 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 1004845)
I watch TV 24 hours a day...ha.....

???

whoami 12-27-2010 01:34 PM

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I do think that TV could be a time-sucking addiction for some people.

Something that irritated me when I didn't have one though was being in the dark on pop culture references. lol There were people that I thought were really funny and witty, and once I started watching a little TV I realized that those persons had no original thoughts of their own, they were just repeating popular punch lines! :penguin

houston 12-27-2010 01:39 PM

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That's what she said.

missourimary 12-27-2010 03:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1004816)
Netflix looks like a good deal at 8$ a month

It can be. I can go to Blockbuster or Redbox and rent a movie for $1, though, or get them free from the library and don't usually watch more than four or five a month. Unless I have Netflix. Then, in order to "get my money's worth" I want to watch one every night. So for me it's not such a good deal. :jolly

ILG 12-27-2010 03:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 1004868)
It can be. I can go to Blockbuster or Redbox and rent a movie for $1, though, or get them free from the library and don't usually watch more than four or five a month. Unless I have Netflix. Then, in order to "get my money's worth" I want to watch one every night. So for me it's not such a good deal. :jolly

LOL! What I don't get is my library co-workers who rent Netflix. I guess they can't wait until their hold comes in. :jolly

RandyWayne 12-27-2010 04:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by whoami (Post 1004856)
I do think that TV could be a time-sucking addiction for some people.

Something that irritated me when I didn't have one though was being in the dark on pop culture references. lol There were people that I thought were really funny and witty, and once I started watching a little TV I realized that those persons had no original thoughts of their own, they were just repeating popular punch lines! :penguin

That's what SHE said!

canam 12-27-2010 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1004834)
Can you watch those online?

yes, channellsurfing .net

*AQuietPlace* 12-27-2010 06:21 PM

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We didn't watch any television, movies, dvds..... NONE, including YouTube, Veggie Tales or Andy Griffith.... until a few years ago. We do now.

I haven't noticed any difference, period. Before, we spent time on the internet, reading books, whatever. Now, we watch movies and tv shows together (among other things, of course). We are no more or less productive than we were, spend no more or less time together, are no more nor less richer. ;)


edit to add:

On second thought, come to think of it, I'd say our life is slightly richer because of adding tv shows/movies, etc. We probably do spend a little more time together because of it..... laughing, sharing memories, sharing punch lines. But I certainly didn't find that the life we had before tv was richer than the one we have now.

RandyWayne 12-27-2010 06:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 1004915)
We didn't watch any television, movies, dvds..... NONE, including YouTube, Veggie Tales or Andy Griffith.... until a few years ago. We do now.

I haven't noticed any difference, period. Before, we spent time on the internet, reading books, whatever. Now, we watch movies and tv shows together (among other things, of course). We are no more or less productive than we were, spend no more or less time together, are no more nor less richer. ;)


edit to add:

On second thought, come to think of it, I'd say our life is slightly richer because of adding tv shows/movies, etc. We probably do spend a little more time together because of it..... laughing, sharing memories, sharing punch lines. But I certainly didn't find that the life we had before tv was richer than the one we have now.

You mean, you don't sit around staring at each other marveling at how much more saved you are than those heathen who brought satan into their homes in the form of the one-eyed devil?

*AQuietPlace* 12-27-2010 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1004931)
You mean, you don't sit around staring at each other marveling at how much more saved you are than those heathen who brought satan into their homes in the form of the one-eyed devil?

Well, we can't now, we're heathens now, too. ;)

Probably did a bit of that before. ;)

Sister Alvear 12-27-2010 07:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1004848)
???

just joking...

whoami 12-27-2010 07:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1004879)
That's what SHE said!

Yep. Run and tell that homeboy.

Praxeas 12-27-2010 07:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by missourimary (Post 1004868)
It can be. I can go to Blockbuster or Redbox and rent a movie for $1, though, or get them free from the library and don't usually watch more than four or five a month. Unless I have Netflix. Then, in order to "get my money's worth" I want to watch one every night. So for me it's not such a good deal. :jolly

you can also watch streaming content through Netflix on demand

ILG 12-27-2010 07:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace* (Post 1004915)
We didn't watch any television, movies, dvds..... NONE, including YouTube, Veggie Tales or Andy Griffith.... until a few years ago. We do now.

I haven't noticed any difference, period. Before, we spent time on the internet, reading books, whatever. Now, we watch movies and tv shows together (among other things, of course). We are no more or less productive than we were, spend no more or less time together, are no more nor less richer. ;)


edit to add:

On second thought, come to think of it, I'd say our life is slightly richer because of adding tv shows/movies, etc. We probably do spend a little more time together because of it..... laughing, sharing memories, sharing punch lines. But I certainly didn't find that the life we had before tv was richer than the one we have now.

Yes, I know what you mean APQ. Back when we watched *nothing* at all I can't say we spent more time together. We probably spend more time together now because we aren't doing church all the time.

ILG 12-27-2010 08:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 1004946)
just joking...

Oh!!!! :gotcha

NotforSale 12-28-2010 11:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1004834)
Can you watch those online?

In fact, yes!!! I did watch the World Series online but the overall experience wasn't as good as TV.

TheIndependent 12-28-2010 11:51 AM

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This is an interesting topic. For 7 years, I sat under the man-made idea that TV was bad and would send me to hell. HA! Been watching it for 3 years, not to mention the 20 years prior to the 7 of not watching it, and I'm still here watching it with the same shows as I watched before. Nothing that would cause me to stumble, let alone anyone else.

Funny thing is, some friends who go to one of the strictest UPC churches in the world (in the northeast Dallas suburbs), strangely don't watch TV but watch some of the most questionable shows (like Grey's Anatomy, The Bachelorette/Bachelor, etc.) on their computer. Hmm, what's wrong with this picture? Don't believe in TV in the house but watch shows with subliminal, and oftentimes, filthy content.

I agree that it can be time-consuming, just like anything else that can be. So, to me, it's all about balance and perspective. God knows every intention behind everything we do, and everything we watch and listen to...

whoami 12-28-2010 01:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheIndependent (Post 1005213)

I agree that it can be time-consuming, just like anything else that can be. So, to me, it's all about balance and perspective.


Yep, back in the day when I wasn't allowed any TV, I was totally addicted to books. I can sit and read for 24 hours straight. But when I'm watching a movie or show, I tend to get bored more easily and want to move on to something else. I think it's because with books, so much is interpreted in the mind and I tend to create the details that are the most interesting to me when interpreting books. With movies and shows, someone else has interpreted and presented those details and its not always to my taste so I lose interest faster. So - I have to watch myself because I can get lost in books and neglect my work, but that never happens with TV. lol

aegsm76 12-28-2010 04:40 PM

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Never had it and never plan to have it.
I am not totally ignorant of what is on it, though.
Can you tell me of a show that is decent enough to follow?
I am trying not to be judgemental, but all of the shows that I have heard of are not something I would feel comfortable watching.
Most seem to revolve around immorality or joke about immorality.
Of course, as I stated before, I do not have one.

ILG 12-29-2010 09:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1005320)
Never had it and never plan to have it.
I am not totally ignorant of what is on it, though.
Can you tell me of a show that is decent enough to follow?
I am trying not to be judgemental, but all of the shows that I have heard of are not something I would feel comfortable watching.
Most seem to revolve around immorality or joke about immorality.
Of course, as I stated before, I do not have one.

I think everyone here respects your right not to have a TV. Unfortunately, there is a lot of immorality on TV, but there are some good shows too. It's all in what you choose to watch (and to some extent what immorality is to you. If a woman in pants and cut hair is immoral, I guess most of it is immoral.)

ILG 12-29-2010 09:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheIndependent (Post 1005213)
This is an interesting topic. For 7 years, I sat under the man-made idea that TV was bad and would send me to hell. HA! Been watching it for 3 years, not to mention the 20 years prior to the 7 of not watching it, and I'm still here watching it with the same shows as I watched before. Nothing that would cause me to stumble, let alone anyone else.

Funny thing is, some friends who go to one of the strictest UPC churches in the world (in the northeast Dallas suburbs), strangely don't watch TV but watch some of the most questionable shows (like Grey's Anatomy, The Bachelorette/Bachelor, etc.) on their computer. Hmm, what's wrong with this picture? Don't believe in TV in the house but watch shows with subliminal, and oftentimes, filthy content.

I agree that it can be time-consuming, just like anything else that can be. So, to me, it's all about balance and perspective. God knows every intention behind everything we do, and everything we watch and listen to...

I didn't watch ANYTHING for 16 years, but, I read some serial killer books that were pretty awful.


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