Tongues interpretation - Rapture/Return
 

I have a sincere question.

A few months ago, there was an interpretation of tongues where I attend, that was along the lines of "I will be coming quickly to take out a people that has made themselves ready", or something of that nature.

My question is this: Are there others that have heard a similiar "tongues interpretation", and if so, how many years BACK have you heard/been hearing those interpretations? A long time, or just in the last few years, or months ?

(Not looking to debate eschatology at all, but just wanting to simply find out how many years this interpretation has been given, as an "interpretation of tongues"?

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Literally all my life. Jesus said He was coming soon 2000 years ago. Soon is relevant in relation to eternity, I suppose.

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Thing is, tongues/interpretation ALWAYS fit the interpreters eschatology!!!

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I can remember these from at least the late 70's early 80's but then that's about as far back as I can remember.

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This is a very difficult question. What is soon? Is 2000 years soon? Does that mean it could be another 2000 years, or does it just relate to the fact that any of us could called away individually at any moment?

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Do Universalists believe in a rapture? If so, who goes up? Everybody?

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Nathaniel Urshan said an angel told him the Lord would come back before he died.

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Oops.

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And this, my friends, makes one question the source.

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Now now now....

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now? or later?

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Where was this documented?

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Tapes all over the country.

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Rapture doctrine has messed up some folks!

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Well, you know there's the teaching that God has delayed His coming....so maybe that's what happened.

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Most of us are of the fulfilled understanding, or preterist view, I am not settled completely on full or partial.

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Well, you better decide before Jesus comes back!!

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Hey, Paul believed Jesus was coming before he died, so what if NU did? LOL

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I would not say the rapture doctrine messed anyone up. There's lots of factors involved that make the messes.

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But did he claim that an angel told him absolutely so?

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What about youtube or the internet?

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It was spread before that time.

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Any archives? I'm just thinking if you tell this to someone they'll deny it unless you have proof.

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I do not have any tape of it. We should spread the word and see who can locate one. It was widely spread abroad in his sermons.

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Let me know if you find anything out!

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Im convinced real tongues and interpretation aren't intended to teach doctrine but to exhort people to have faith or turn/return to God

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Was this part of the trip to the desert talk... or around that time?

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That was Jonathan Urshan's story. I have THAT on tape.

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May have been the Siberian Seven!

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I thought that was sometime during the 70's -at which point the anti-christs arrival was considered immanent.

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Paul was very adamant about it, and I believe he was right, but that is another subject.

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maybe not "always" but 99 percent of the time, prophecy and interpretation are consistent with the speaker's theology and intelligence level. When a person gives an interpretation or gives a prophecy or teaches or preaches or argues it is based on his/her own understanding of Scripture, doctrine, politics, etc.

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Bingo!!:thumbsup

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I'm older than some here so my memories of tongues and interpretation go back to 1955 or 1956.

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In my opinion, tongues and interpretation and also prophecy is to:
edify (build up)
exhort (stir up)
comfort (cheer up or lift up)
according to my understanding of 1 Corinthians 14:1-5

It is my opinion that when we hear a prophecy or hear a message in tongues and interpretation we should regard it the same way we would a testimony, teaching, or sermon. We are to judge it by the Word and our understanding of the Word. If it does not contradict the written Word, then we should file it away in our memory bank and await its confirmation.

When the Apostle Paul spoke to the infant church in Thessalonica where they had some questions about the coming of the Lord and the resurrection and the day of the Lord, he gave them the words in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 (which some see as a "rapture" because the Latin word for caught up is a form of "rapio") and said that those words should be used to comfort (not scare or intimidate) people.

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Anybody remember the song, "Wait a Little Longer Please, Jesus"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf8h53p3hdA

only in certain places would the words "hard" and "tired" rhyme like this and Cincinnati is one of them places.

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well, angel means messenger so anyone who speaks for the Lord could be considered a messenger/angel. maybe he heard some preacher say it.

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No, he claimed it was a heavenly angel who allegedly also gave him a cane that he kept. Anyone witness to that cane which he spoke of?

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Scripture can be used in a similar fashion, though. People can twist just about anything any way they want.

I knew guy once who got all stirred up because a notable Texas preacher had said that he thought the Lord would return "that year."

"That year" being, I think, about 1982 or so. Being a virgin at the time, I speculated on a later date. "No," my friend assured me; "this year."

Today he doesn't really believe anything anymore; except that he's always been right. He still believes that.

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Back in the late 1980s I heard a UPC preacher (William Sciscoe), speaking about the events which took place at Los Angeles during the Azusa Street revival of the early 1900s, state that many "messages in tongues" and their accompanying "interpretations" were received. One he mentioned that comes to mind, stated something to this effect: "As the time of the end draws near, there will be more emphasis placed upon worship than upon righteousness." (Note: that's my paraphrased version of what I remember this preacher saying...., not his exact words.) Are we witness to the fulfillment of this "message" in our day? I think so!

What purpose did God intend for "messages in tongues" and their "interpretations" to serve within the church?

Are we to think of the words of Revelation 22:21 as being God's final communication with His saints, therefore "messages in tongues" have no relevance whatsoever?

As for me, I take every "message in tongue" and its "interpretation" as something that is extremely important. Accordingly, I always try to reconcile such "messages" with what the Bible reveals about the matter(s) that are addressed by this means, and should I determine that it aligns with the things I find written there, then to me it is equally as important as anything that is found recorded in the Bible.

Admittedly, there are "messages in tongues" which do not conform to the principles of the Bible, and can be easily discarded, but this is not to say that such is the case with every "message" given.