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citizen 01-06-2011 06:59 AM
Interesting Facts about US Consumption
 
•Americans constitute 5% of the world's population but consume 24% of the world's energy.
•On average, one American consumes as much energy as
o 2 Japanese
o 6 Mexicans
o 13 Chinese
o 31 Indians
o 128 Bangladeshis
o 307 Tanzanians
o 370 Ethiopians
•The population is projected to increase by nearly 130 million people - the equivalent of adding another four states the size of California - by the year 2050.
•Forty percent of births are unintended.
•Americans eat 815 billion calories of food each day - that's roughly 200 billion more than needed - enough to feed 80 million people.
•Americans throw out 200,000 tons of edible food daily.
•The average American generates 52 tons of garbage by age 75.
•The average individual daily consumption of water is 159 gallons, while more than half the world's population lives on 25 gallons.
•Fifty percent of the wetlands, 90% of the northwestern old-growth forests, and 99% of the tall-grass prairie have been destroyed in the last 200 years.
•Eighty percent of the corn grown and 95% of the oats are fed to livestock.
•Fifty-six percent of available farmland is used for beef production.
•Every day an estimated nine square miles of rural land are lost to development.
•There are more shopping malls than high schools.

Reducing consumption without reducing use is a costly delusion. If undeveloped countries consumed at the same rate as the US, four complete planets the size of the Earth would be required. People who think that they have a right to such a life are quite mistaken.

Americans eat 200 billion more calories per day than necessary -- enough to feed 80 million people.

While millions of people around the world starve to death, Americans spend $30 billion a year on diet programs. One-third of the U.S. population is significantly overweight.

coadie 01-06-2011 07:18 AM
Re: Interesting Facts about US Consumption
 
Start off with energy. We produce a very large percentage of the worlds industrial goods and food which requires energy.

We are 1/4th of the world's GDP. Of course much of the energy goes into nitrogen for crop fertilizer.

It is my understanding Inda and China can now create enough crops to feed all their hungry. That consumes energy.

citizen 01-06-2011 07:33 AM
Re: Interesting Facts about US Consumption
 
Coadie, weve had it good for a very long time, which is a blessing.
But we have become gluttonous and ungrateful.
Its showing up in all kinds of ways - especially in our health. And then look at our fat little offspring.
This is not right and as Christians lets not be caught up in the consumption fever that's so prevalent in the nation.

We have to be more moderate in our consumption and we just cant keep defenging our greedy little appetites.
Lets start doing something different :)

RandyWayne 01-06-2011 07:57 AM
Re: Interesting Facts about US Consumption
 
So are you the Lorax? Do you speak for the trees?

citizen 01-06-2011 08:11 AM
Re: Interesting Facts about US Consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1009600)
So are you the Lorax? Do you speak for the trees?
LOL !!!

No I speak for our fat little darlings that are the future of our nation.
I am speaking for the stuffed goose like creatures we have become because OUR/Americans true religion has become more more more more more.

Its not Christian to be that darn greedy.
I am speaking as an 'oracle' - not a 'lorax' :)

We will continue to suffer and decline if we dont cut back. I cant see Jesus having this in mind for his followers.
Followers of Christ must do all things in moderation.

Digging4Truth 01-06-2011 08:21 AM
Re: Interesting Facts about US Consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by citizen (Post 1009607)
LOL !!!

No I speak for our fat little darlings that are the future of our nation.
I am speaking for the stuffed goose like creatures we have become because OUR/Americans true religion has become more more more more more.

Its not Christian to be that darn greedy.
I am speaking as an 'oracle' - not a 'lorax' :)

We will continue to suffer and decline if we dont cut back. I cant see Jesus having this in mind for his followers.
Followers of Christ must do all things in moderation.
Great news citizen...

All of these things will change drastically when the American economy collapses and the dollar goes defunct. When our economy is gone... no one can afford electricity and people are starving you can know that all of this has been remedied.

ILG 01-06-2011 08:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1009613)
Great news citizen...

All of these things will change drastically when the American economy collapses and the dollar goes defunct. When our economy is gone... no one can afford electricity and people are starving you can know that all of this has been remedied.
LOL! I was thinking similarly.

Citizen, the future is yours. Things are about to change. I can't say how much, but I think we are at least going to see the late 70's inflation and interest rates all over again. Maybe even worse. We are already bankrupt, we just haven't admitted it yet.

sandie 01-06-2011 08:36 AM
Re: Interesting Facts about US Consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1009613)
Great news citizen...

All of these things will change drastically when the American economy collapses and the dollar goes defunct. When our economy is gone... no one can afford electricity and people are starving you can know that all of this has been remedied.
Let's see where all the "citizens" are then in their high and mighty, holier than thou, you "darn greedy" people rhetoric.

I have a feeling they'll be singing a different tune.

Just love the "blame America" and let's just tell Jesus all these fabulous blessings He has given America are bad, bad, bad.

:angelsad

sandie 01-06-2011 08:42 AM
Re: Interesting Facts about US Consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by citizen (Post 1009591)
•Americans constitute 5% of the world's population but consume 24% of the world's energy.
•On average, one American consumes as much energy as
o 2 Japanese
o 6 Mexicans
o 13 Chinese
o 31 Indians
o 128 Bangladeshis
o 307 Tanzanians
o 370 Ethiopians
•The population is projected to increase by nearly 130 million people - the equivalent of adding another four states the size of California - by the year 2050.
•Forty percent of births are unintended.
•Americans eat 815 billion calories of food each day - that's roughly 200 billion more than needed - enough to feed 80 million people.
•Americans throw out 200,000 tons of edible food daily.
•The average American generates 52 tons of garbage by age 75.
•The average individual daily consumption of water is 159 gallons, while more than half the world's population lives on 25 gallons.
•Fifty percent of the wetlands, 90% of the northwestern old-growth forests, and 99% of the tall-grass prairie have been destroyed in the last 200 years.
•Eighty percent of the corn grown and 95% of the oats are fed to livestock.
•Fifty-six percent of available farmland is used for beef production.
•Every day an estimated nine square miles of rural land are lost to development.
•There are more shopping malls than high schools.

Reducing consumption without reducing use is a costly delusion. If undeveloped countries consumed at the same rate as the US, four complete planets the size of the Earth would be required. People who think that they have a right to such a life are quite mistaken.

Americans eat 200 billion more calories per day than necessary -- enough to feed 80 million people.

While millions of people around the world starve to death, Americans spend $30 billion a year on diet programs. One-third of the U.S. population is significantly overweight.
Please tell us you are underweight, are living in an earth friendly tent, rub two sticks together to get a little heat now and then, only sip on water, never, ever go near a vehicle of any sort....etc., etc., etc..

ILG 01-06-2011 08:47 AM
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Do you know that many Americans are overweight because we don't have ENOUGH money to spend on decent food? Very often, the lower the socioeconomic status, the higher the weight because foods like mac and cheese, which isn't very nutritious, is very cheap. Since many people are malnourished or undernourished, they eat more as their bodies crave food (nutrition) and they again eat the wrong kind of cheap calories and gain weight.

citizen 01-06-2011 08:58 AM
Re: Interesting Facts about US Consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sandie (Post 1009621)
Let's see where all the "citizens" are then in their high and mighty, holier than thou, you "darn greedy" people rhetoric.

I have a feeling they'll be singing a different tune.

Just love the "blame America" and let's just tell Jesus all these fabulous blessings He has given America are bad, bad, bad.

:angelsad
I'll be singing a tune but more along the lines of - the most hated tune ever sang: "I TOLD YOU SO!!!!"

And I guess I should not be blaming America for being greedy - I need to keep my critcisms aimed at Christians that are not to participate in the greedy gluttonous wantoness over indulgences of your worldly Americans...so I take that back:

America will go forth doing what comes natural and I guess she should - but Christians need not carry on in the same manner.

And the blessings that have been afforded us can be used for us or against us. ANY blessing can be used for us or against us. It depends on what you do with the blessing.

Jesus is good and He gives good gifts but sometimes we begin to worship the gifts instead of the giver of the gifts. ;)

The stats should make Christians repent or testify that they are not greedy because they live a moderate holy life. They ought not DEFEND the sin(s) even if they are guilty of them.

Azzan 01-06-2011 08:59 AM
Re: Interesting Facts about US Consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sandie (Post 1009624)
Please tell us you are underweight, are living in an earth friendly tent, rub two sticks together to get a little heat now and then, only sip on water, never, ever go near a vehicle of any sort....etc., etc., etc..
Why the personal attack?

citizen 01-06-2011 09:00 AM
Re: Interesting Facts about US Consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sandie (Post 1009624)
Please tell us you are underweight, are living in an earth friendly tent, rub two sticks together to get a little heat now and then, only sip on water, never, ever go near a vehicle of any sort....etc., etc., etc..
Is that the only way to live a less greedy lifestyle?

Cindy 01-06-2011 09:02 AM
Re: Interesting Facts about US Consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by citizen (Post 1009591)
•Americans constitute 5% of the world's population but consume 24% of the world's energy.
•On average, one American consumes as much energy as
o 2 Japanese
o 6 Mexicans
o 13 Chinese
o 31 Indians
o 128 Bangladeshis
o 307 Tanzanians
o 370 Ethiopians
•The population is projected to increase by nearly 130 million people - the equivalent of adding another four states the size of California - by the year 2050.
•Forty percent of births are unintended.
•Americans eat 815 billion calories of food each day - that's roughly 200 billion more than needed - enough to feed 80 million people.
•Americans throw out 200,000 tons of edible food daily.
•The average American generates 52 tons of garbage by age 75.
•The average individual daily consumption of water is 159 gallons, while more than half the world's population lives on 25 gallons.
•Fifty percent of the wetlands, 90% of the northwestern old-growth forests, and 99% of the tall-grass prairie have been destroyed in the last 200 years.
•Eighty percent of the corn grown and 95% of the oats are fed to livestock.
•Fifty-six percent of available farmland is used for beef production.
•Every day an estimated nine square miles of rural land are lost to development.
•There are more shopping malls than high schools.

Reducing consumption without reducing use is a costly delusion. If undeveloped countries consumed at the same rate as the US, four complete planets the size of the Earth would be required. People who think that they have a right to such a life are quite mistaken.

Americans eat 200 billion more calories per day than necessary -- enough to feed 80 million people.

While millions of people around the world starve to death, Americans spend $30 billion a year on diet programs. One-third of the U.S. population is significantly overweight.
And yet we have people starving in the U. S. also.

sandie 01-06-2011 09:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by citizen (Post 1009632)


I'll be singing a tune but more along the lines of - the most hated tune ever sang: "I TOLD YOU SO!!!!"

And I guess I should not be blaming America for being greedy - I need to keep my critcisms aimed at Christians that are not to participate in the greedy gluttonous wantoness over indulgences of your worldly Americans...so I take that back:

America will go forth doing what comes natural and I guess she should - but Christians need not carry on in the same manner.

And the blessings that have been afforded us can be used for us or against us. ANY blessing can be used for us or against us. It depends on what you do with the blessing.

Jesus is good and He gives good gifts but sometimes we begin to worship the gifts instead of the giver of the gifts. ;)

Stats should make Christians repent or testify that they are not greedy because they live a moderate holy life. The ought not DEFEND the sin(s) even if they are guilty of them.
I hope you know these people personally. Because we're not suppose to bear false witness.
And how is your earth friendly tent? How are you getting along sipping a little water each day, and rubbing those two sticks together now and then to get a little heat on a cold day? Because the words beam and log come to mind....

citizen 01-06-2011 09:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1009637)
And yet we have people starving in the U. S. also.
YEP, and that ought not be with all that we have. We dont even have to send buckets of money out of the nation to care about our fellowman - we can help those that are right here.

sandie 01-06-2011 09:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azzan (Post 1009633)
Why the personal attack?
Excuse me....he/she calls others "greedy"...now that's a personal attack.

When we point out the faults of others, I would hope the person doing that isn't guilty of those faults.

citizen 01-06-2011 09:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sandie (Post 1009642)
Excuse me....he/she calls others "greedy"...now that's a personal attack.

When we point out the faults of others, I would hope the person doing that isn't guilty of those faults.
I'm not calling YOU greedy - I am calling those that are greedy ---> greedy.

sandie 01-06-2011 09:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by citizen (Post 1009641)
YEP, and that ought not be with all that we have. We dont even have to send buckets of money out of the nation to care about our fellowman - we can help those that are right here.
I agree with your premise. We should help those right here, right now, and I believe we do.

sandie 01-06-2011 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by citizen (Post 1009644)
I'm not calling YOU greedy - I am calling those that are greedy ---> greedy.
Then you must know them personally, otherwise you're bearing false witness.

citizen 01-06-2011 09:12 AM
Re: Interesting Facts about US Consumption
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sandie (Post 1009639)
I hope you know these people personally. Because we're not suppose to bear false witness.
And how is your earth friendly tent? How are you getting along sipping a little water each day, and rubbing those two sticks together now and then to get a little heat on a cold day? Because the words beam and log come to mind....
Do I personally know some greedy people...uhhh YEAH.
Do I think the stats make me ask myself if I need to look in my own pantry and my own closets and start spreading the wealth and not eat so much mind numbing much?...uhh YEAH. I cant grow in God unless I repent of my sins.

Number one, God does not like it one bit.
Number two, its not healthy.
Number three, I want to show my children that its do-able to do alot with much less, whether its clothing or food and expensive entertainment
Number four, it feels better to give than to receive.

Azzan 01-06-2011 09:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sandie (Post 1009642)
Excuse me....he/she calls others "greedy"...now that's a personal attack.

When we point out the faults of others, I would hope the person doing that isn't guilty of those faults.
Maybe I missed something... but I didn't see where the term 'greedy' was used until post #11 which came after your post #9.

I was just surprised at the tone as until then, all that was posted were simple stats.

sandie 01-06-2011 09:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by citizen (Post 1009650)
Do I personally know some greedy people...uhhh YEAH.
Do I think the stats make me ask myself if I need to look in my own pantry and my own closets and start spreading the wealth and not eat so much mind numbing much?...uhh YEAH. I cant grow in God unless I repent of my sins.

Number one, God does not like it one bit.
Number two, its not healthy.
Number three, I want to show my children that its do-able to do alot with much less, whether its clothing or food and expensive entertainment
Number four, it feels better to give than to receive.
Fine, then you need to do those things and I wish you well and much success.

Sharing your personal convictions is one thing, calling fellow Christians greedy is another.

sandie 01-06-2011 09:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azzan (Post 1009652)
Maybe I missed someting... but I didn't see where the term 'greedy' was used until post #11 which came after your post #9.

I was just surprised at the tone as until then, all that was posted were simple stats.
Okay, fine...that's the way you saw it.
I saw the whole list as a slam against American citizens over consumption, which in and of itself says: greed. It then proceeded to only include Christians.

America really isnt' all that bad, imo.

Azzan 01-06-2011 09:23 AM
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Oops, I see it in post #5.

Digging4Truth 01-06-2011 09:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1009628)
Do you know that many Americans are overweight because we don't have ENOUGH money to spend on decent food? Very often, the lower the socioeconomic status, the higher the weight because foods like mac and cheese, which isn't very nutritious, is very cheap. Since many people are malnourished or undernourished, they eat more as their bodies crave food (nutrition) and they again eat the wrong kind of cheap calories and gain weight.
This is true. If anybody doesn't think it is true... have you ever tried dieting? You better have some cash on hand if you're going to eat right in this world.

sandie 01-06-2011 09:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azzan (Post 1009662)
Oops, I see it in post #5.
I didn't go back and count the number of posts, I took your word.
Thanks for correcting it.

Azzan 01-06-2011 09:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sandie (Post 1009661)
Okay, fine...that's the way you saw it.
I saw the whole list as a slam against American citizens over consumption, which in and of itself says: greed. It then proceeded to only include Christians.

America really isnt' all that bad, imo.
I don't necessarily see it as greed. But it's pretty hard to argue against some of the stats.

sandie 01-06-2011 09:29 AM
Re: Interesting Facts about US Consumption
 
And if we want to get technical about the personal attacks:

#3 "But we have become gluttonous and ungrateful."

That's a broad brush which now only includes Christians, I supppose.

We all have personal convictions and things that we think should be corrected in society. She's entitled to those beliefs just as I'm entitled to question when those things are posted on a public forum

I hope she succeeds in those personal convictions and wish her only the very best in her attempts. :)
I'm sure by her example she'll succeed in convincing others to do likewise.

Hoovie 01-06-2011 09:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1009628)
Do you know that many Americans are overweight because we don't have ENOUGH money to spend on decent food? Very often, the lower the socioeconomic status, the higher the weight because foods like mac and cheese, which isn't very nutritious, is very cheap. Since many people are malnourished or undernourished, they eat more as their bodies crave food (nutrition) and they again eat the wrong kind of cheap calories and gain weight.
I am not sure that I buy that rhetoric. I hear the stories on the news too. They can't afford to buy veggies, the only thing they can afford to eat is Mcdonalds... I disagree. They eat Mac and cheese because they want to. They eat Mcdonalds because they have money to blow and love big macs.

Growing up we never went to macdonalds - way to expensive. What is cheap to buy is veggies. Aldi's very often has canned green beans and peas 4 or 5 for a buck. It's all about choices - if some poor people make poor choices - that's cool it's a free country. The answer isn't limiting choice or blaming others for their stupidity.

ILG 01-06-2011 09:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1009663)
This is true. If anybody doesn't think it is true... have you ever tried dieting? You better have some cash on hand if you're going to eat right in this world.
Yep.

ILG 01-06-2011 09:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 1009677)
I am not sure that I buy that rhetoric. I hear the stories on the news too. They can't afford to buy veggies, the only thing they can afford to eat is Mcdonalds... I disagree. They eat Mac and cheese because they want to. They eat Mcdonalds because they have money to blow and love big macs.

Growing up we never went to macdonalds - way to expensive. What is cheap to buy is veggies. Aldi's very often has canned green beans and peas 4 or 5 for a buck. It's all about choices - if some poor people make poor choices - that's cool it's a free country. The answer isn't limiting choice or blaming others for their stupidity.
Although I understand what you are saying to a degree, I am not comparing McDonalds to canned veggies. I am comparing fresh veggies and fruit and nutritious foods with the stuff that people grab off the shelf that is full of MSG, aspartame and trans fats.

Azzan 01-06-2011 09:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoovie (Post 1009677)
I am not sure that I buy that rhetoric. I hear the stories on the news too. They can't afford to buy veggies, the only thing they can afford to eat is Mcdonalds... I disagree. They eat Mac and cheese because they want to. They eat Mcdonalds because they have money to blow and love big macs.

Growing up we never went to macdonalds - way to expensive. What is cheap to buy is veggies. Aldi's very often has canned green beans and peas 4 or 5 for a buck. It's all about choices - if some poor people make poor choices - that's cool it's a free country. The answer isn't limiting choice or blaming others for their stupidity.
I agree with you. I'd also add that I think the convenience factor plays a big factor in what Americans eat. It's much easier to run through a drive-through than it is to cook a meal at home.

Hoovie 01-06-2011 09:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1009663)
This is true. If anybody doesn't think it is true... have you ever tried dieting? You better have some cash on hand if you're going to eat right in this world.
Hmmm it's expensive because we make it that way though. The bottom line, we introduce more calories into that hole below our nose than we consume through our work and exercise.

Canned veggies are very inexpensive. For those who understand that fresh greens are important, you can get a mixture of sprout seeds like alpha alpha to last you a year for about five bucks.

Hoovie 01-06-2011 09:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Azzan (Post 1009681)
I agree with you. I'd also add that I think the convenience factor plays a big factor in what Americans eat. It's much easier to run through a drive-through than it is to cook a meal at home.
Indeed. Can't miss the show! The primary issue with Americans is that we have too much discretionary income (and food stamps) and too little common sense.

citizen 01-06-2011 09:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sandie (Post 1009657)
Fine, then you need to do those things and I wish you well and much success.

Sharing your personal convictions is one thing, calling fellow Christians greedy is another.
Why are you offended ?

Jesus said that we are to not be greedy. This country is made up of people that call themselves Christians. I posted statistics that pointed out the citizens of this country is consuming more than whats necessary. And even if the statistics were not posted - we know that what we consume is not condusive to a healthy life style. Now we like to say that the majority of our citizens are Christian - so you must ask yourself "who" are those that are doing so much OVER consuming to the detriment of this great nation of ours?
It looks like 'Christians' are. So lets not be named among those that are living such lifestyles. And if Christians change their ways. It will make Jesus happier, it will give us better health and we will have more to share with those that are truly in need in our own country.

This should not be considered a personal conviction to Christians this should be a conviction for EVERY Christian. Isnt it a conviction of yours?
Why are you defending bad behaviour?

ILG 01-06-2011 09:50 AM
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I think the most inexpensive nutritious thing you can eat are beans, canned or otherwise.

You can get inexpensive nutritious food, but when you look at the overall spectrum.....it costs money and time to eat right.

And for a woman who say, works 9-3 at her hotel cleaning job and then 4-8 at her second job making minimum wage, she comes home exhausted and buys some cheap junk with her food stamps because she is A. uneducated on nutrition B. Is dead tired and doesn't want to cook and C. needs to make sure the money lasts all month.

citizen 01-06-2011 09:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sandie (Post 1009673)
And if we want to get technical about the personal attacks:

#3 "But we have become gluttonous and ungrateful."

That's a broad brush which now only includes Christians, I supppose.

We all have personal convictions and things that we think should be corrected in society. She's entitled to those beliefs just as I'm entitled to question when those things are posted on a public forum

I hope she succeeds in those personal convictions and wish her only the very best in her attempts. :)
I'm sure by her example she'll succeed in convincing others to do likewise.
Yes, I am pointing ONLY at Christians now because the wicked will continue to do wickedly but if one is a child of God they would not want to do something or live something that would make the heart of Jesus weep. Right?

You dont want other Christians to live a life of moderation?...where is that coming from?
Thats like me saying dont call one who commits murder a murderer or dont call one who commits adultery an adulterer because thats MY personal conviction. I thought over consumption was a sin? If it STILL is a sin then Christians ought not participate in it.
The stats do nothing for you? as a Christian American?

sandie 01-06-2011 10:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by citizen (Post 1009685)
Why are you offended ?

Jesus said that we are to not be greedy. This country is made up of people that call themselves Christians. I posted statistics that pointed out the citizens of this country is consuming more than whats necessary. And even if the statistics were not posted - we know that what we consume is not condusive to a healthy life style. Now we like to say that the majority of our citizens are Christian - so you must ask yourself "who" are those that are doing so much OVER consuming to the detriment of this great nation of ours?
It looks like 'Christians' are. So lets not be named among those that are living such lifestyles. And if Christians change their ways. It will make Jesus happier, it will give us better health and we will have more to share with those that are truly in need in our own country.

This should not be considered a personal conviction to Christians this should be a conviction for EVERY Christian. Isnt it a conviction of yours?
Why are you defending bad behaviour?
I'm not offended.
I support you in your efforts to please the Lord as you see fit.
And please show me where I defended bad behaviour?

I don't know the circumstances of every Christian, and certainly can in no way judge them to be: "greedy, gluttonous and ungrateful". That's all I'm saying, Citizen.

Again, I wish you well, I hope you're successful in cutting back as far as you think pleases the Lord. If that forumula is what all Christians should live by, please come back and tell us how that should work and what it should look like as per the Lord's insructions.

aegsm76 01-06-2011 10:30 AM
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I am all over the board on this topic.
Citizen - let me say that usually when someone presents these statistics, they are out to portray Americans as evil, greedy people.
I do not think that you meant that this way.
Now, let me say that I believe many American's are this way. Also, many Christian's are this way.
I know many Apostolics that are addicted to food and are addicted to shopping. They cannot be satisfied with what they have and think that something new will satisfy them.
I hesitate to call this a sin, but in my heart of hearts, I believe that it is. Maybe this is just my personal conviction.
Now back to the poor.
Someone wrote that we have people starving in America. This is utterly ridiculous. If anyone is starving in America, then it is their choice.
Also, it always strikes me as curious that the "poor" seem to be the ones with money for various junk foods. I have been very poor and we ate a lot of beans, rice and other things that some people turn up their nose at. It is amazing how good beef kidney's, hearts, livers can taste when you are hungry. I never could eat chitlin's, though!
We have a bookstore in our church that sell various things. The children that I see in there purchasing the candy/mints/gum after church are always the ones that come from the "poor" families.


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