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DAII 01-07-2011 07:45 PM

Biz as Usual: Violate the Constitution & Own Rules
 
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Looks like it's back to business as usual in the People's House.

After reading the Constitution and sending letters of reprimand to the President the Republican controlled House of Reps does what ...???

Has two members vote who are not officially sworn in ...

and then breaks their own "transparency" rules calling for three days notice before votes just so they could "delete" their "mistake". Republicans allowed for four minutes of debate on this particular resolution.

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From
http://www.salon.com/news/the_republ..._sessions_vote

At least the Democrats are having fun in the minority. They're never as united as Republicans are, but most House Democrats voted against today's resolution invalidating the unconstitutional votes taken by Representatives Pete Sessions and Mike Fitzpatrick when they had not yet been sworn in as members of Congress. The resolution magically removes the votes they took while not being members, but doesn't do anything about all the other stuff they did -- like chairing the Rules Committee.

Anthony Weiner trolled the Republicans with his usual vigor, taking to the floor to point out that the resolution violated the new "transparency" rules the Republicans introduced on the very first day of the new Congress. Those rules call for three days notice before votes. Republicans allowed for four minutes of debate on this particular resolution.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zN6D4JIG24


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I'm ready for this slapstick comedy to continue.

Digging4Truth 01-07-2011 07:48 PM

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Repubs are in office... your eyes are once again open to political wrong doing. It's a miracle.

DAII 01-07-2011 07:51 PM

Re: Biz as Usual: Violate the Constitution & Own R
 
My eyes are always open to the duplicity on both sides ... it's so easy to play the victim card ... and that's what we've seen here from the freaky cons for awhile

Baron1710 01-07-2011 07:53 PM

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Slow news day huh?

DAII 01-07-2011 07:53 PM

Re: Biz as Usual: Violate the Constitution & Own R
 
Oh the righteous indignation ... they would trample over the sanctity of the Constitution on day one!

Baron1710 01-07-2011 07:54 PM

Re: Biz as Usual: Violate the Constitution & Own R
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 1010820)
Oh the righteous indignation ... they would trample over the sanctity of the Constitution on day one!

No body's trampling on the Constitution...

DAII 01-07-2011 07:55 PM

Re: Biz as Usual: Violate the Constitution & Own R
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 1010819)
Slow news day huh?

Are you kidding me ???? ... it's OPEN SEASON UNTIL 2012!!!

DAII 01-07-2011 07:57 PM

Re: Biz as Usual: Violate the Constitution & Own R
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 1010821)
No body's trampling on the Constitution...

That sounds reasonable ... on your side of the aisle ... but this will be one of a montage of events the partisans will use to play possum

The pendulum swings and the game continues.

Baron1710 01-07-2011 07:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 1010823)
Are you kidding me ???? ... it's OPEN SEASON UNTIL 2012!!!

Well fire away Danno.

Baron1710 01-07-2011 08:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 1010824)
The sounds reasonable ... on your side of the aisle ... but this will be one of a montage of events the partisans will use to play possum

The pendulum swings and the game continues.

This has zero political value and is as dumb as some of the things the republicans pulled when they were in the minority. Squawking about non stories reduces credibility when there is a story.

DAII 01-07-2011 08:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 1010825)
Well fire away Danno.

Where are the rabid propagandists standing for truth, justice and the American biblical way of life?


This was their intent from the beginning ... bait and switch ... pose as guardians of the Constitution and then ... screw it ... and turn around to legislate illegitimately

Digging4Truth 01-07-2011 08:01 PM

Re: Biz as Usual: Violate the Constitution & Own R
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 1010818)
My eyes are always open to the duplicity on both sides ... it's so easy to play the victim card ... and that's what we've seen here from the freaky cons for awhile

Yep... most cons are the same way.

DAII 01-07-2011 08:03 PM

Re: Biz as Usual: Violate the Constitution & Own R
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron1710 (Post 1010827)
This has zero political value and is as dumb as some of the things the republicans pulled when they were in the minority. Squawking about non stories reduces credibility when there is a story.

But not in the eyes of the koolaid drinkers ... it's fodder for the propagandists and their hate-talk shows and blogs.

This will be forwarded to millions of emails and posted on forums ... like Esther does ad nauseum ...

DAII 01-07-2011 08:16 PM

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Four minutes of debate to sweep under the rug an unprecedented usurping of Constitutional power ... yep ... business as usual

DAII 01-07-2011 08:21 PM

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Oh the irony in this is so rich ..... lecture everyone on the Constitution then legislate in lieu of it.

God is SO GOOD.

MissBrattified 01-07-2011 08:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 1010830)
But not in the eyes of the koolaid drinkers ... it's fodder for the propagandists and their hate-talk shows and blogs.

This will be forwarded to millions of emails and posted on forums ... like Esther does ad nauseum ...

Nice to hear your confession. :laffatu

DAII 01-07-2011 08:42 PM

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Love it ... Mr. Sessions and his buddy were at a reception with campaign donors on the day they were to be sworn in ...

Yep ... business as usual.

coadie 01-07-2011 09:22 PM

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Dannies liberal friends are lookin for work and he is upset.

DAII 01-07-2011 09:25 PM

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Coadie is correct in taking a seat.

Praxeas 01-07-2011 09:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth (Post 1010829)
Yep... most cons are the same way.

Did you just call Danno a con man? :heeheehee

DAII 01-07-2011 09:41 PM

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You gotta love Weiner ... if not for the entertainment value ... he's HILARIOUS ... not surprisingly he represents the district where I was raised ....

classic New Yorker mad bulldog ....

He knows his rules of order ... and knows how to play the system of house order ... he's a master tactician and jester.

He punks so many with the same move ... and they seem to fall for it ... time after time ...

He'll yield .... then while someone is just about to get it going, in mid-sentence request his time again ...

it's as if they don't realize they're getting jerked on the House floor.

canam 01-08-2011 12:41 AM

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3 pages of posts by big D and no mention of upc,wow ! record alert folks ! Call Guiness :)

aegsm76 01-08-2011 04:16 AM

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DA - Looks like the Republicans are following the Democrats and the Presidents lead on the transparency vows.
Seems like I remember something about posting all bills on a website for public viewing, before voting? Didn't the President and the Dems promise this and it never happened?

aegsm76 01-08-2011 04:55 AM

Re: Biz as Usual: Violate the Constitution & Own R
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 1010814)
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBbuuuuuuuuuwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Looks like it's back to business as usual in the People's House.

After reading the Constitution and sending letters of reprimand to the President the Republican controlled House of Reps does what ...???

Has two members vote who are not officially sworn in ...

and then breaks their own "transparency" rules calling for three days notice before votes just so they could "delete" their "mistake". Republicans allowed for four minutes of debate on this particular resolution.

Ahhh DA - you are stretching it!! The 3 days notice only applies to bills and joint resolutions. Since this was neither, it does not apply. Otherwise, looks like politics as usual. Looks like neither party is ready for prime-time.

DAII 01-08-2011 07:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1010966)
Ahhh DA - you are stretching it!! The 3 days notice only applies to bills and joint resolutions. Since this was neither, it does not apply. Otherwise, looks like politics as usual. Looks like neither party is ready for prime-time.

Weiner was well aware of the house rules regarding 3 days notice ... and as you observe his response to the chair's rebuttal is quick and seemingly prepared ...
he wasnt caught flat-footed

Albeit, what he had the chair recognize was that their own rules would not apply to any breaches of the Constitution as this one was on the very House floor... the resolution notwithstanding ... thus ...the scope of transparency was limited, even in light other legislation already voted on that day without Constitutional authority ...

it was masterful ... and was a brilliant display of turning the tables on those who seemingly claim Constitutional superiority

It does bring pause to think that if a more serious offense against our Constitution would have transpired .... that four minutes could still be allotted and the majority then rams down their "quick fix" with no open debate even with this new group that will rival the "Do Nothing" Congress

Transparency ... schmanparency

The new house rule putting the rep. from Wisconsin as budget czar with some absolute powers is what scares me most.

And yes, it is all politics as usual from Day 1 ... of "change".

You gotta think Sessions and Fitzpatrick got a tongue lashing by the establishment behind closed doors.

The 2012 Campaign begins.

DAII 01-08-2011 07:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1010962)
DA - Looks like the Republicans are following the Democrats and the Presidents lead on the transparency vows.
Seems like I remember something about posting all bills on a website for public viewing, before voting? Didn't the President and the Dems promise this and it never happened?

Ah ... when cornered and in doubt the time proven ... Canam 'mommy-tested' defense is: "but he hit me first"
:laffatu


Day one ... and already the two wrongs make a right posturing begins.

aegsm76 01-08-2011 09:04 AM

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DA - just saying politicians are politicians!!
It was amusing that Sessions and Fitzpatrick looked totally out of their league!

Sam 01-08-2011 10:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by canam (Post 1010956)
3 pages of posts by big D and no mention of upc,wow ! record alert folks ! Call Guiness :)

Guiness the book of records
or
Guiness the dark beer for a drink?

Sam 01-08-2011 10:37 AM

Re: Biz as Usual: Violate the Constitution & Own R
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 1010972)
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The 2012 Campaign begins.

The 2012 campaign has been going on since the 2008 elections both by the President and those in the legislature.

Digging4Truth 01-08-2011 11:02 AM

Re: Biz as Usual: Violate the Constitution & Own R
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 1010972)
Transparency ... schmanparency


I'm having trouble finding your Transparency... Schmanparency threads on Obama.


I take nothing away from what you are saying. It remains true... but it's everywhere.


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