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unitedpraise10 01-08-2011 04:29 PM

Starting in 2012....the UPCI will.....
 
Starting in 2012 the UPCI will hold annual General Conference in St. Louis every year. I pesonally like the like this....due to the fact that I currently reside in STL. I just wanted to get your thoughts and opinions on this..... :thumbsup

http://www.upci.org/generalconference.asp

Rose 01-08-2011 05:03 PM

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I'm glad the General Conference is in Louisville KY this year since I live in KY. :)

However, I do think St Louis is a good middle of the country site and should make it more cost effective for the UPCI.

DAII 01-08-2011 05:05 PM

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Sign of a fiscal trouble ... DKB has made a sound decision to try stop them from bleeding red.

DAII 01-08-2011 05:10 PM

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General Conference has been moved up one day. It will convene on October 11-15, 2011, in Louisville, Kentucky. A special committee has been working on plans, which will be finalized at the General Board meeting in March, but please make note of several important changes:

1. The conference will begin with a message from the general superintendent on Tuesday night and will end with a Holy Ghost rally on Saturday night. The business session is scheduled for Wednesday.

2. The theme of "Let's Have Church" was chosen to reflect an emphasis on worship, preaching, and prayer in the evening services.

3. There will be an expanded schedule of seminars on Friday afternoon and Saturday morning for ministers and lay leaders, so please make plans to attend and to bring a staff member with you.

Sincerely in Christ,
David K. Bernard

DAII 01-08-2011 05:19 PM

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Spanish Evangelism ministry beginning this year ... will only have a national conference every other year ... and on alternating years a ministerial meeting at St. Louis ....

http://new.spanishevangelism.net/mod...rd-front-5.jpg

I'd imagine this has happened with other departments like Black Evangelism

unitedpraise10 01-08-2011 05:27 PM

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Indeed the United Pentecostal Church International is having money issues....along with everybody else in the United States.

Sam 01-08-2011 05:28 PM

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Well, St. Louis is the Vatican or Holy See for the UPC,
the place from which the Pope speaks ex cathedra,
and from which the UPC Apocrypha (Manual) is distributed.

houston 01-08-2011 05:34 PM

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s'all good. whiteys need to get their conference fix.

DAII 01-08-2011 05:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by unitedpraise10 (Post 1011208)
Indeed the United Pentecostal Church International is having money issues....along with everybody else in the United States.

Many of these money issues ... including PPH being in the red preceded 2008 ....
I sat in meetings showing how much in the red ... or subsidized SEM was ... and that was prior to 2006.
Where is the Assembly of God having their national conference in the next few years?

RandyWayne 01-08-2011 05:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 1011200)
General Conference has been moved up one day. It will convene on October 11-15, 2011, in Louisville, Kentucky. A special committee has been working on plans, which will be finalized at the General Board meeting in March, but please make note of several important changes:

1. The conference will begin with a message from the general superintendent on Tuesday night and will end with a Holy Ghost rally on Saturday night. The business session is scheduled for Wednesday.

2. The theme of "Let's Have Church" was chosen to reflect an emphasis on worship, preaching, and prayer in the evening services.

3. There will be an expanded schedule of seminars on Friday afternoon and Saturday morning for ministers and lay leaders, so please make plans to attend and to bring a staff member with you.

Sincerely in Christ,
David K. Bernard

So we can expect an emphasis on shouting, running, and dancing?

DAII 01-08-2011 05:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1011215)
So we can expect an emphasis on shouting, running, and dancing?

The "apostolic way" ... just not found in their epistles.

unitedpraise10 01-08-2011 05:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 1011214)
Many of these money issues ... including PPH being in the red preceded 2008 ....
I sat in meetings showing how much in the red ... or subsidized SEM was ... and that was prior to 2006.
Where is the Assembly of God having their national conference in the next few years?

The PPH no longer exists. What I found funny was right before they closed the doors on the printing, and on campus bookstore at WEC in Hazelwood, the whole building went through a very extensive remodel in prep for General Conference 2009, which was held in St. Louis. It just didn't make sense to me to spend millions on a remodel, but in turn close PPH.

I just checked AOG's website....they're National Conference is in Phoenix this year.

DAII 01-08-2011 06:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by unitedpraise10 (Post 1011218)
The PPH no longer exists. What I found funny was right before they closed the doors on the printing, and on campus bookstore at WEC in Hazelwood, the whole building went through a very extensive remodel in prep for General Conference 2009, which was held in St. Louis. It just didn't make sense to me to spend millions on a remodel, but in turn close PPH.

I just checked AOG's website....they're National Conference is in Phoenix this year.


Agreed ... ftr, PPH exists with a skeletal staff ...

An org in the 21st century without a Media Division ... which was scrapped this year ?

I am sure the AG will be having it elsewhere next year ....

unitedpraise10 01-08-2011 06:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 1011220)
Agreed ... ftr, PPH exists with a skeletal staff ...

An org in the 21st century without a Media Division ... which was scrapped this year ?

I am sure the AG will be having it elsewhere next year ....

I didn't see anything on future dates.

DAII 01-08-2011 06:32 PM

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Coon and DKB speak of the "Progress of the UPC" ... 2011 vid

http://www.homemissionsdivision.com/...lt.asp?MID=666

Positive momentum is the talking point

again making it clear that there have been "financial challenges"

Churches, on all sides of the spectrum, dropping out in the last 3 years has had its effect ... no doubt ....

OneAccord 01-08-2011 06:39 PM

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Think I'll go to GC this year. Never been to one. That is, if non UPcers are allowed to attend. I have friends near Louisville. Is there an admission charge or do I just "sow my largest seed gift to gain favor?

DAII 01-08-2011 06:44 PM

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Interesting discussion on the DKB and Coon video about delaying the demands on "lifestyle" changes if they are cultural ... When teaching new converts ...

UnTraditional 01-08-2011 06:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 1011244)
Interesting discussion on the DKB and Coon about delaying the demands "lifestyle" changes if they are cultural ... in teaching to new converts ...

Since when do we dictate rules like we do? Cannot God do anything without men trying to mess things up?

aegsm76 01-08-2011 08:20 PM

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Interesting that this has been an issue since Paul's day and we can't seem to find resolution.

pelathais 01-08-2011 08:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OneAccord (Post 1011241)
Think I'll go to GC this year. Never been to one. That is, if non UPcers are allowed to attend. I have friends near Louisville. Is there an admission charge or do I just "sow my largest seed gift to gain favor?

There will be "ushers" at each entrance to ensure that only "UPCers" enter any of the Conference's sessions. All attendees will be required to receive a mark in either their right hand or forehead to gain admittance. There will also be the customary $75.00 fee.

Cindy 01-08-2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 1011313)
There will be "ushers" at each entrance to ensure that only "UPCers" enter any of the Conference's sessions. All attendees will be required to receive a mark in either their right hand or forehead to gain admittance. There will also be the customary $75.00 fee.

Quit that.....:smack

Sam 01-08-2011 09:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pelathais (Post 1011313)
There will be "ushers" at each entrance to ensure that only "UPCers" enter any of the Conference's sessions. All attendees will be required to receive a mark in either their right hand or forehead to gain admittance. There will also be the customary $75.00 fee.

What kind of mark will be used this year?
Is it possible to find out ahead of time and provide forged marks to people for a lower fee?

canam 01-08-2011 09:54 PM

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The only thing i remember about st louis was the last time my parents went and it wasnt pretty ,the crime and filth ,has it changed? Philly was also a disaster,with people getting mugged,"city of brotherly dirt"

unitedpraise10 01-08-2011 10:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by canam (Post 1011343)
The only thing i remember about st louis was the last time my parents went and it wasnt pretty ,the crime and filth ,has it changed? Philly was also a disaster,with people getting mugged,"city of brotherly dirt"

It has changed. I have lived in STL my whole life, and know what you are referring to. It's a pretty nice city now.

Sam 01-08-2011 10:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by unitedpraise10 (Post 1011347)
It has changed. I have lived in STL my whole life, and know what you are referring to. It's a pretty nice city now.

It was pretty rough when Chevy Chase and his family were there in that Family Vacation movie. I think that was St. Louis, wasn't it?

unitedpraise10 01-08-2011 10:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1011353)
It was pretty rough when Chevy Chase and his family were there in that Family Vacation movie. I think that was St. Louis, wasn't it?

never heard of that....

canam 01-09-2011 05:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1011353)
It was pretty rough when Chevy Chase and his family were there in that Family Vacation movie. I think that was St. Louis, wasn't it?

Is chevy chase about the GM bailout ? :)

DAII 01-09-2011 09:01 AM

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I believe the cost-cutting measures will continue with the elimination of various other PAID executive positions such as Youth. Secretary, HMD secretary, etc.

Personally, under this foreseeable duress,I'd streamline Foreign Missions with Home Missions under the umbrella of Missions. With FMD taking the lead. It has the most success. Eliminating the need for two directors. HMD director the odd man out or becoming a sub- position.

notofworks 01-09-2011 09:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAII (Post 1011400)
I believe the cost-cutting measures will continue with the elimination of various other PAID executive positions such as Youth. Secretary, HMD secretary, etc.

Personally, under this foreseeable duress,I'd streamline Foreign Missions with Home Missions under the umbrella of Missions. With FMD taking the lead. It has the most success. Eliminating the need for two directors. HMD director the odd man out or becoming a sub- position.



Aren't you supposed to be at church right now?

DAII 01-09-2011 09:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by notofworks (Post 1011402)
Aren't you supposed to be at church right now?

Heading out now for 11:30 service.

Church, have it your way!

Timmy 01-09-2011 10:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by unitedpraise10 (Post 1011188)
Starting in 2012 the UPCI will hold annual General Conference in St. Louis every year. I pesonally like the like this....due to the fact that I currently reside in STL. I just wanted to get your thoughts and opinions on this..... :thumbsup

http://www.upci.org/generalconference.asp

Future Conference Locations:
Sept. 30 – Oct. 4, 2009
St. Louis, MO
Sept. 29 – Oct. 3, 2010
Houston, TX
. . .
For some reason, I find it hilarious that they think those dates are in the future. :heeheehee

Sister Alvear 01-09-2011 11:21 AM

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well...

kclee4jc 01-09-2011 11:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 1011417)
well...

That's a deep subject... lol
Are you by any chance Jonathan Alvear's wife?

canam 01-09-2011 11:31 AM

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ah! look at the avatar, you will see her husband.:)

kclee4jc 01-09-2011 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by canam (Post 1011419)
ah! look at the avatar, you will see her husband.:)

well i thought so but i have only seen bro. alvear once and the picture is a lil blurry.. sooo i wasn't for certain...

Apocrypha 01-09-2011 02:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1011209)
Well, St. Louis is the Vatican or Holy See for the UPC,
the place from which the Pope speaks ex cathedra,
and from which the UPC Apocrypha (Manual) is distributed.

:)

canam 01-09-2011 02:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kclee4jc (Post 1011420)
well i thought so but i have only seen bro. Alvear once and the picture is a lil blurry.. Sooo i wasn't for certain...

i think jonathan is her son but she will appreaciate the compliment:)

houston 01-09-2011 03:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by canam (Post 1011461)
i think jonathan is her son but she will appreaciate the compliment:)

Raul Jr. is her son. Jonathan is cousin, nephew, not sure, some relation to her husband -Raul Sr.

Sam 01-09-2011 08:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 1011411)
Future Conference Locations:
Sept. 30 – Oct. 4, 2009
St. Louis, MO
Sept. 29 – Oct. 3, 2010
Houston, TX
. . .
For some reason, I find it hilarious that they think those dates are in the future. :heeheehee

Maybe that's part of the problem.
The organization is looking forward to 2009 and 2010 as the future.

Timmy 01-09-2011 08:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam (Post 1011595)
Maybe that's part of the problem.
The organization is looking forward to 2009 and 2010 as the future.

Livin' in the past! :toofunny


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