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aegsm76 01-18-2011 05:40 AM

Gay couple awarded damages
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...uble-room.html

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King's Child 01-18-2011 08:22 AM

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It is getting to the place that a Christian has no rights.

coadie 01-18-2011 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by King's Child (Post 1015256)
It is getting to the place that a Christian has no rights.

You have the right to be silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you?

Cindy 01-18-2011 02:30 PM

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I wonder if any of the other unmarried couples they refused to let stay there sued them? Can public places still put up signs that say we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone?

Praxeas 01-18-2011 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1015194)

What's the problem? They are just doing what the Ulta Con's said "Oh go get a room" :heeheehee

King's Child 01-19-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by coadie (Post 1015380)
You have the right to be silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you?



Yes, I guess your right. That is about the only right we as Christians have any more. We are just suppose to keep out mouths shut.

Cindy 01-19-2011 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by King's Child (Post 1015794)
Yes, I guess your right. That is about the only right we as Christians have any more. We are just suppose to keep out mouths shut.

The problem is Christians started keeping our mouths shut long ago. But you know we have to obey them that have rule over us. Boy, the government is pretty tricky huh?

RandyWayne 01-19-2011 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cindy (Post 1015416)
I wonder if any of the other unmarried couples they refused to let stay there sued them? Can public places still put up signs that say we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone?

I thought that exact same thing. I only side with the hotel owner if he refused rooms to everyone he would consider to be living in sin, such as an unmarried couples along with the gay ones. I am fairly sure he (the owner) was picking and choosing based on perceived degree of sinfullness.

Cindy 01-19-2011 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1015803)
I thought that exact same thing. I only side with the hotel owner if he refused rooms to everyone he would consider to be living in sin, such as an unmarried couples along with the gay ones. I am fairly sure he (the owner) was picking and choosing based on perceived degree of sinfullness.

It said in the article that they in fact did refuse unmarried couples that were heterosexual.

whoami 01-19-2011 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyWayne (Post 1015803)
I thought that exact same thing. I only side with the hotel owner if he refused rooms to everyone he would consider to be living in sin, such as an unmarried couples along with the gay ones. I am fairly sure he (the owner) was picking and choosing based on perceived degree of sinfullness.

Even if he refused other unmarried couples, it still seems like discrimination to me. I mean, what if he was one of the types of Christians that doesn't believe in interracial marriages and refused to rent rooms to intterracial married couples because according to his beliefs their marriage isn't valid? That would certainly never fly, and rightly so. That looks like the same thing to me as refusing to rent to a gay couple who has a civil partnership contract.

King's Child 01-19-2011 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by whoami (Post 1015809)
Even if he refused other unmarried couples, it still seems like discrimination to me. I mean, what if he was one of the types of Christians that doesn't believe in interracial marriages and refused to rent rooms to intterracial married couples because according to his beliefs their marriage isn't valid? That would certainly never fly, and rightly so. That looks like the same thing to me as refusing to rent to a gay couple who has a civil partnership contract.

I understand where you are coming from but what about the hotel owner's rights. Do they have any rights? It is their motel so don't they have the right to refuse a room to someone.

whoami 01-19-2011 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by King's Child (Post 1015827)
I understand where you are coming from but what about the hotel owner's rights. Do they have any rights? It is their motel so don't they have the right to refuse a room to someone.

It depends on what the laws are where they are, so I don't know. I'm not sure if they have the right to refuse service to anyone or not if that refusal is classified as discrimination...

aegsm76 01-19-2011 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by whoami (Post 1015809)
Even if he refused other unmarried couples, it still seems like discrimination to me. I mean, what if he was one of the types of Christians that doesn't believe in interracial marriages and refused to rent rooms to intterracial married couples because according to his beliefs their marriage isn't valid? That would certainly never fly, and rightly so. That looks like the same thing to me as refusing to rent to a gay couple who has a civil partnership contract.

I respectfully disagree. I think some of you have bought into the argument that the "gay rights" struggle is equivalent to the civil rights struggle.
It is not.
This occured in England. It is also the law in England that a 16 year old can have a relationship with anyone they please. So, you have 16 year old girls living with 50 year old guys, legally.
That is where we are headed.

whoami 01-19-2011 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1015877)
I respectfully disagree. I think some of you have bought into the argument that the "gay rights" struggle is equivalent to the civil rights struggle.
It is not.
This occured in England. It is also the law in England that a 16 year old can have a relationship with anyone they please. So, you have 16 year old girls living with 50 year old guys, legally.
That is where we are headed.

I don't personally think that the gay rights struggle is the same as the civil rights struggle, but I do think that the comparison I made in this particular instance is valid. I realized when I posted that it was in England, that's why I said to King's Child that I don't know if the laws there allow for the right to refuse service to anyone.

I think there are some states in America where 16 is the legal age of consent, so there could very well be 16yo's living with 50yo dudes here too, legally...

SOUNWORTHY 01-29-2011 04:32 PM

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[QUOTE=whoami;1015887]I don't personally think that the gay rights struggle is the same as the civil rights struggle, but I do think that the comparison I made in this particular instance is valid. I realized when I posted that it was in England, that's why I said to King's Child that I don't know if the laws there allow for the right to refuse service to anyone.

I think there are some states in America where 16 is the legal age of consent, so there could very well be 16yo's living with 50yo dudes here too, legally...[/QUOTE]

Legal age of consent in Hawaii and Idaho is 14.:girlytantrum :foottap


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